Sturm - Morning After Commanders

[Mr Cowboy]

This franchise no longer should enjoy that credibility. The 5-years of Garrett as full-time head coach has been one playoff year in five chances. A regular season record of 40-40 with a playoff record of 1-1. During that time, they actually have a home record of 19-21 which clearly plays into the idea that the franchise enjoys no home field advantage whatsoever.

Accepting mediocrity, that's what this is all about. The most valuable sports franchise is happy with a mediocre coach. It makes me wonder if Jerry and company have ever wondered how much more money this franchise could make and how much more this franchise would be worth with multiple winning, playoff seasons, with a couple more championships thrown in.

 

[jterrell]

They don't care as long as their box seats and license deals keep the dollars flowing. Jones is the consummate carnival huckster and like
PT Barnham said, there's a sucker born every minute. As long as Dallas fans keep buying his story, tickets, jerseys, etc. all's well
in Frisco.

Not sure how to nicely say this but this is one of the stupidest things that ever gets stated.

Jones is filthy rich. He doesn't need any money. This team, however, is his legacy.

If he wanted to sell this team he could make BILLIONS. Instead he is leaving it and BILLIONS on the table for his family.

We will very much know when a Jones in charge only cares about money.. because some Shiehk will own the Cowboys soon thereafter and they'll get moved to LA.

 

[jterrell]

16 of the defense's 30 takeaways last year happened when Dallas was leading by 10+ points. Also, last year we played 12 games against teams that ranked in the bottom 10 (or tied for the bottom 10) in fewest turnovers. We didn't have the offense this year to get those big leads, and we didn't have last year's schedule of turnover-prone opponents.

yup... turnovers are largely situational. teams take more chances when down and less when ahead.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

This season is what I expected last season to be like. With the bottom falling out. and no longer getting 8 wins. more like 4 wins.

I am one who beleives even with Romo, this teams is ....at best , 10-6, 9-7.

Last year was a fluke. And I think we all know it.....just dont want it to be.

Garret will get one more year.....but I imagine that leash is very very short. Jerry will pull that trigger if we get more of the same next year.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Not sure how to nicely say this but this is one of the stupidest things that ever gets stated.

Jones is filthy rich. He doesn't need any money. This team, however, is his legacy.

If he wanted to sell this team he could make BILLIONS. Instead he is leaving it and BILLIONS on the table for his family.

We will very much know when a Jones in charge only cares about money.. because some Shiehk will own the Cowboys soon thereafter and they'll get moved to LA.

It may not be about money "anymore".

But now, its ego. He needs to step down. Hire an outside of the family general manager. But he wont. Becuase of his ego.

And I admire and respect and like the man.

 

[LittleD]

Not sure how to nicely say this but this is one of the stupidest things that ever gets stated.

Jones is filthy rich. He doesn't need any money. This team, however, is his legacy.

If he wanted to sell this team he could make BILLIONS. Instead he is leaving it and BILLIONS on the table for his family.

We will very much know when a Jones in charge only cares about money.. because some Shiehk will own the Cowboys soon thereafter and they'll get moved to LA.

I'm sorry but you just don't understand people in business who their first love is making money. Billionaires are rich because they focus their
lives on making money. The art of deal making including oil wildcatting is all about making money. I had an uncle who was a very successful
lawyer and had millions not billions but, he lived for doing land deals, ranch deals, apartment deals and every other kind of deal and could have
cared less about defending DWI clients. People who have lots of money want to make a lot more of it so don't kid yourself with the delusion that
team success is all Jerry looks for.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

They not only failed to do something special, they totally failed to take the division with a team still talented enough to win 8 or 9 games even with the injuries which would have won the division.

I could not disagree more. Going in we had a 34 year old QB and backups that were warmed over poo. Moore finally demonstrated an ability to read defenses in the 1.5 seconds you have to be able to and voila Beasley, TWill, and receivers in the middle of the field started catching balls.. We replaced the offensive player of the year with a retread and our top 5 WR missed a dozen games.

Wilcox and Church are not starting quality S. Hayden is at best described as marginal for an NFL roster. He played 60 snaps several games. White, Patmon, and Hitchens who played the slot/SAM were terrible. Depth in the secondary was on full display against Washington.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Well, that's depressing.

forgive me while I go throw up

 

[Randy White]

This season blew chunks for sure and I think the team has to look at itself long and hard in every aspect.

But the only thing worse than winning 4 games is following the CLE model of blow it up every 3 years and start over.
That's a no go.

Staff changes? Likely the HC and both Coordinators are safe. But I'd be looking at a QB Coach, TE Coach and some type of DB coach.

Roster? Back up QB depth chart will be different.
I expect 10-12 guys on the two deep to be replaced. 3-4 via promotions, 3-4 via draft, 3-4 via free agency.

Not blowing this thing up doesn't mean status quo.

It is going to be a very long off-season. Let's hope it is a fruitful one. It should be..., drafting 4th.

This

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Sadly I don't see any real change until Jerry is in that Big Owner's Box in the Sky...

One day, after he is gone and buried. Were going to watch a documentary about Jerry Jones. And a big part of that documentary about the life of Jerry Jones, is how he was obessed at WInning another Super Bowl, but couldnt get it done. And how #cowboyszone became a joke. A punchline. How old time Cowboys fans turned against their once beloved Cowboys becuase their tickers just stop ticking. They couldnt take the losing anymore........................

But he just cant see it. The correct call, at this time. As I wright this, is to fire yourself Jerry. Step down. hire a GM and just be a really great owner. Isnt it time consuming to be an owner and businessman and Family and other things, etc etc. at your age? How do you find time to be the General Manger of the Cowboys too? You have matrixed yourself too thin. And, just becuase you "may" be able to do it, doesnt mean you Should do it.....

But you wont. Youll keep sayihng to yourself, one year, one more time.....We gotta a good draft and these guys will come through and Ill get my glory!! who can blame him? I probably would be the same way.

Having said that. Hey guys..............cowboys fans......................... we will get'em next year, .....right?

 

[perrykemp]

One day, after he is gone and buried. Were going to watch a documentary about Jerry Jones. And a big part of that documentary about the life of Jerry Jones, is how he was obessed at WInning another Super Bowl, but couldnt get it done. And how #cowboyszone became a joke. A punchline. How old time Cowboys fans turned against their once beloved Cowboys becuase their tickers just stop ticking. They couldnt take the losing anymore........................

But he just cant see it. The correct call, at this time. As I right this, is to fire yourself Jerry. Step down. hire a GM and just be a really great owner. Isnt it time consuming to be an owner and businessman and Family and other things, etc etc. at your age? How do you find time to be the General Manger of the Cowboys too? You have matrixed yourself too thin. And, just becuase you "may" be able to do it, doesnt mean you Should do it.....

But you want. Youll keep sayihng to yourself, one year, one more time.....We gotta a good draft and these guys will come through and Ill get my glory!! who can blame him? I probably would be the same way.

Having said that. Hey guys..............cowboys fans......................... we will get'em next year, .....right?

Great post.

 

[jterrell]

It may not be about money "anymore".

But now, its ego. He needs to step down. Hire an outside of the family general manager. But he wont. Becuase of his ego.

And I admire and respect and like the man.

Jerry is not the GM. Stephen is. And really Willl McClay is.
Why do you think McClay is ignoring interviews?
Because he really gets to make the personnel calls in Dallas while Jerry takes all the blame for misses.

Jerry is a figurehead. His being gone means absolutely zero as far as decision-making. He is at most a tie-breaker voice in the room.
Does Jerry decide if they take the risk for Hardy? Sure. But only after hearing from football people and his son.
He can't even tell you the name of half the guys on the friggin roster.

McClay is arguably the best GM candidate out there.

Jerry stepping down is pointless and empty chatter.

It may have made a huge difference in 2000 but it hasn't been a real issue since the day he hired BP.
Jerry hasn't been the real football decision-maker since then.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Jerry is not the GM. Stephen is. And really Willl McClay is.
Why do you think McClay is ignoring interviews?
Because he really gets to make the personnel calls in Dallas while Jerry takes all the blame for misses.

Jerry is a figurehead. His being gone means absolutely zero as far as decision-making. He is at most a tie-breaker voice in the room.
Does Jerry decide if they take the risk for Hardy? Sure. But only after hearing from football people and his son.
He can't even tell you the name of half the guys on the friggin roster.

McClay is arguably the best GM candidate out there.

Jerry stepping down is pointless and empty chatter.

It may have made a huge difference in 2000 but it hasn't been a real issue since the day he hired BP.
Jerry hasn't been the real football decision-maker since then.

Jerry is in the way, even if by perception only. He gives out the medical reports to the press................

But I would agree he is just more of a figure head, starting slwoly these last few years........ But to a large degree, in a large management type role, like say, the POTUS. Thats a big part of the Job. It counts.

 

[jterrell]

I'm sorry but you just don't understand people in business who their first love is making money. Billionaires are rich because they focus their
lives on making money. The art of deal making including oil wildcatting is all about making money. I had an uncle who was a very successful
lawyer and had millions not billions but, he lived for doing land deals, ranch deals, apartment deals and every other kind of deal and could have
cared less about defending DWI clients. People who have lots of money want to make a lot more of it so don't kid yourself with the delusion that
team success is all Jerry looks for.

If Jerry was focused primarily on money or making business decisions he would sell the team.
He has had MULTI-BILLION dollar offers many times.

NOTHING he does matters to him more than the team or winning and leaving this team to his family.
He employs half the clan in this business.

He makes a lot of money because he's good at it. He can do it any time in almost any field.

He keeps running the Cowboys because it is much harder and a lot more fun.

Saying he cares more about money than winning is literally stupid on every level.
He makes a lot more money WHEN he wins.
He has ignored selling the team which is the maximum money made.
He has never shied away from spending on players or coaches in order to win.
He ate a cap penalty for paying Miles Austin of all people.

This entire thought process is goofy and flawed. It is the poor guy argument.

 

[DandyDon1722]

That's exactly my fear as well. And my only hope is that Goff has been coached up enough so that he's ready for the pro game because I have no faith that anyone on this staff has the ability to help him become better.

Based on their clear track record of perpetual failure, how could anyone think otherwise?

I think we should get used to the fact it's almost a certainty that we will not be getting Goff. Once he (or whoever it is) is anointed as the franchise guy by Kiper & McShay they hype machine kicks in and there's no way he gets by Cleveland. The only thing they have left to sell is hope and their fan base will demand a QB.

So - we now have to accept the fact that we are looking at whoever is the #2 QB in the draft and everything you stated will now come into play including can we make him better. Then we have to weight his future agains the needs of the team now and whether an impact player changes us dramatically. I think maybe Elliott could do that. An explosive RB could really open up the offense.

Either way it's going to be a tough call.

 

[StarBoyz83]

This season is what I expected last season to be like. With the bottom falling out. and no longer getting 8 wins. more like 4 wins.

I am one who beleives even with Romo, this teams is ....at best , 10-6, 9-7.

Last year was a fluke. And I think we all know it.....just dont want it to be.

Garret will get one more year.....but I imagine that leash is very very short. Jerry will pull that trigger if we get more of the same next year.

Garrett still has 4 years on his contract and I know he will still be hc until it's up. Like the jones' said they're fully invested in garrett unfortunately.

 

[Staubacher]

Garrett still has 4 years on his contract and I know he will still be hc until it's up. Like the jones' said they're fully invested in garrett unfortunately.

Yup next year anything 6 wins or better will be sold as Garrett "making strides" from 4-12.

Every year it's a new excuse for the guy.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Garrett still has 4 years on his contract and I know he will still be hc until it's up. Like the jones' said they're fully invested in garrett unfortunately.

You really think Jerry wont lose it, and fire the whole lot of them, if they go 2-6 first half of the season?

I think it would be so brutal in Dallas and the press, that Garret would want to be fired....

whats even worse then 2-6 though? 4-4!!!!!!!

 

[StarBoyz83]

You really think Jerry wont lose it, and fire the whole lot of them, if they go 2-6 first half of the season?

I think it would be so brutal in Dallas and the press, that Garret would want to be fired....

whats even worse then 2-6 though? 4-4!!!!!!!

No he's been through this and still hasn't changed anything. I have no doubts jerry just thinks this season was only because of bad luck.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

No he's been through this and still hasn't changed anything. I have no doubts jerry just thinks this season was only because of bad luck.

maybe two years at 4-12? maybe that will do it.,