Sturm On Cowboys Contract Handling

[Toruk_Makto]

LOL at you guys saying its not prohibitive...if that was the case how come teams aren't lining up to trade for him??? Why is it that these teams are adamant that they will not trade for him?

Becuase he's 37, has only played 5 games in 2 years and has a history of injuries? Oh and the fac tthat teams know the Cowboys won't carry him into next season?

Outside of all that you mean?

 

[waldoputty]

Team's haven't traded for him because they know he's looking to go one of two places. One of those places is content to sit tight. The other is counting on us letting him go prior to the draft. It's not a big market. That said, Romo's still a Cowboy, so we'll see what happens.

If you don't recognize the team has changed its approach to free agency in there's no point debating it. But they've very obviously changed their approach.

team were waiting for the cowboys to release romo.
and then the texans did the unthinkable - they traded their starting qb before romo was released.

now the texans are stuck.
the next deadline is the draft.
the texans must make a decision on what to draft and how high to draft a qb.
they have no guarantee to get romo so they may have to draft a qb in the 1st round.
but if they get romo, then a 1st round qb would be silly.

the next deadline is June 1 and the start of training camp.
they want Romo to make a run for the superbowl.
if romo does not part of training camp, then their plans will be all screwed up.

it should not last that long.
as long as jerry shows that he is determined, something reasonable may be worked out before the draft.

 

[fredp22]

could you elaborate what you mean by this please sir?

everytime we restructured Romo's contract we were pushing the guaranteed amount from the original contract lifespan out to future years. Its guaranteed money that doesnt go away with a cut, injury, retirement but does go to the new team in a trade.
heres site that shows Romos pending restructured money
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/tony-romo-2447/

as u can see theres 14+MM still owed Romo in restructured money by the Cowboys if we cut (that amount plus 5mm signing bonus is where u get the 19mm dead cap amount it shows) or goes to the new team in a trade.

 

[Alexander]

It's absolutely hilarious that some of the fan base thinks that we have changed philosophies on FA. We simply can't afford difference makers, and its why we have to bargain basement shop so yes we have changed...out of necessity. And yes we are signing our own guys too but so are other the other relevant teams.

The sad part is that in one breath, people like Stephen Jones spout out that they have "changed" and that they now build through the draft and sign their own.

"It can be real difficult especially when you're dealing with guys who might have a little higher evaluation or may think there's something out there for them that it's worth waiting. I understand that. It only takes one team out of 32 to have the cap room and be willing to pay a guy. We know that very well could happen with some of our players that they just end up making more money and not necessarily more than they're worth but more than we can afford to pay them with our situation that we have with what we're putting in our offensive line. You don't have enough money to go around when it's all said and done," So as much as we'd like to keep them all, some guys are going to make more than we can afford to pay them."

Key point being, they cannot afford it because they do the contracts in a way that keeps them cap strapped.

 

[haleyrules]

Becuase he's 37, has only played 5 games in 2 years and has a history of injuries? Oh and the fac tthat teams know the Cowboys won't carry him into next season?

Outside of all that you mean?

Not to mention that Tony has a very poor big game reputation. He never wins when it counts...

 

[waldoputty]

everytime we restructured Romo's contract we were pushing the guaranteed bonus from the original contract lifespan out to future years. Its guaranteed money that doesnt go away with a cut, injury, retirement but does go to the new team in a trade.
heres site that shows Romos pending restructured money
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/tony-romo-2447/

as u can see theres 14+MM still owed Romo in restructured money by the Cowboys or new team in a trade.

yes 14M for a starting qb for superbowl contender is a bargain.
they could release romo after 2017 with no dead money.
or if he is good, they could pay the $20M - which would be reasonable if romo actually survives 2017.

finally romo has already said he would restructure to facilitate a trade...

 

[waldoputty]

Not to mention that Tony has a very poor big game reputation. He never wins when it counts...

it really does not matter.
it does not cost us anything to keep romo past june 1.
why not wait to see if a QB falls down in the shower or texans fold.

 

[Bluestang]

Becuase he's 37, has only played 5 games in 2 years and has a history of injuries? Oh and the fac tthat teams know the Cowboys won't carry him into next season?

Outside of all that you mean?

And at the cost of $14M those reasons you stated are why its not worth a draft pick to QB needy teams.

 

[haleyrules]

it really does not matter.
it does not cost us anything to keep romo past june 1.
why not wait to see if a QB falls down in the shower or texans fold.

Agreed. It only really matters if trade expectations are high. Tony's trade value is very low...Clubs MIGHT take a chance f he his free and his contract is very, very reasonable. Tony will probably retire...there is simply no big money there! So, for him, whats the point. This entire business, from all sides, is money driven. Simple.

 

[Bluestang]

The sad part is that in one breath, people like Stephen Jones spout out that they have "changed" and that they now build through the draft and sign their own.

"It can be real difficult especially when you're dealing with guys who might have a little higher evaluation or may think there's something out there for them that it's worth waiting. I understand that. It only takes one team out of 32 to have the cap room and be willing to pay a guy. We know that very well could happen with some of our players that they just end up making more money and not necessarily more than they're worth but more than we can afford to pay them with our situation that we have with what we're putting in our offensive line. You don't have enough money to go around when it's all said and done," So as much as we'd like to keep them all, some guys are going to make more than we can afford to pay them."

Key point being, they cannot afford it because they do the contracts in a way that keeps them cap strapped.

What's sad is that Stephen admits to not even being able to pay a player a fair amount of what they are worth. You have verbal proof from the guy that writes the checks. We have this Great Wall of an offensive line but no trophies to show for it.

Imagine if Dak has a sophomore slump?!?!

Go Cowboys!

 

[waldoputty]

Agreed. It only really matters if trade expectations are high. Tony's trade value is very low...Clubs MIGHT take a chance f he his free and his contract is very, very reasonable. Tony will probably retire...there is simply no big money there! So, for him, whats the point. This entire business, from all sides, is money driven. Simple.

i expect romo to be playing for the texans after a trade.
i would expect the trade to happen right before the draft.
what we get, i have no idea.

 

[waldoputty]

What's sad is that Stephen admits to not even being able to pay a player a fair amount of what they are worth. You have verbal proof from the guy that writes the checks. We have this Great Wall of an offensive line but no trophies to show for it.

Imagine if Dak has a sophomore slump?!?!

Go Cowboys!

he is the boss and can do whatever he wants.
he wants to beancount, but the team suffers because it missed out on a year or 2 of strong contention.
it reminds me of letting murray go and not even drafting a RB.
yes any reasonable RB can get 1000 yards behind our OL.
but they weakened the engine that drove the team and may have contributed to Romo's demise.
god I hope the lack of an experienced competent RT does not cost us Dak's health.

 

[haleyrules]

i expect romo to be playing for the texans after a trade.
i would expect the trade to happen right before the draft.
what we get, i have no idea.

Maybe. Why would Houston trade for him? He is not in demand and must be released sooner or later?? I do not get the logic! In this piece of business...Romo holds all the cards. He goes where he wants to go, if he really wantsmto go, and under his terms. The signingclubs control the logic and money. Tony certainly doesn't need Football o the money!!

 

[Stash]

Crawford played both DE and DT. DT because that is his better position. DE out of necessity. And he was a more productive player than Collins was.

And you should educate yourself on this defense. The RDE and 3T are the primary pass rushers in this defense.

But nice try on the deflection.

Sure thing. There's no "deflection" necessary when you make apples to oranges comparisons like that.

 

[Stash]

Man Defensive Ends and edge rushers get so many more sacks than DTs as a group. Gotta agree w you

Thanks, but so would anybody. It's fact.

 

[Doomsay]

"Key point being, they cannot afford it because they do the contracts in a way that keeps them cap strapped."

Mint

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Thanks, but so would anybody. It's fact.

Irving was probably our best pass rusher last year. What did we do on 3rd downs with him in obvious passing situations?

 

[fredp22]

yes 14M for a starting qb for superbowl contender is a bargain.
they could release romo after 2017 with no dead money.
or if he is good, they could pay the $20M - which would be reasonable if romo actually survives 2017.

finally romo has already said he would restructure to facilitate a trade...

theres 8.9 dead money next year and 3.2 the year after (if he's traded)
u keep quoting the salary but arent adding in the restructured amounts and bonus still owed (and guaranteed) which have to go on top of the salary (19.6mm)

I was thinking about another restructure but his contract already goes out till he's 39. Whos going to sign Romo till he's 42-3 with his history of injuries

 

[fredp22]

did you see what a team just paid mike glennon?

Romo is better but the contract is an anchor. Theres 19mm in guarantees still owed and go on top of any salary (in a trade)

 

[haleyrules]

did you see what a team just paid mike glennon?

Yeah. Glennon got lucky and he is young and healthy. Still it was shocking. Glennon is a stiff.