Sturm thinks there is more the story re: Tony's shoulder

[big dog cowboy]

Look look look.... So we draft a QB right? Let him play, build a relationship with the WR's that we have and the ones we bring along. Build a relationship with the O-Line, we won't do much for 2 years maybe 3, because he'll still be green.

But then once the phase is over, we are most likely set.

Based on? Since when is drafting any QB a guarantee that you are "most likely set" in this league?

 

[Alexander]

 

[Idgit]

It's amazing, though it probably shouldn't be, how everybody in this thread just ignores what the resident physicians on the board have to say in order to gin up this career ending conspiracy stuff. Like, fascinating how a mood can override the consensus of a group in the face of direct evidence to the contrary. And nobody seems to care.

He broke a collarbone because a giant landed in him. He broke it again because he came back before it had healed. It's a collarbone. That's it. End of story.

We need a QB of the future because the current great one is at an age where you plan to replace him. He's not retiring imminently. He could get hurt again like any QB. It won't be because of a trick collarbone of all things. But he'll be retiring within the window of a rookie replacement's first contract, so we have to get a replacement ready. It really is as simple as that.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Everything I've read about the Mumford procedure says that it is done to relieve pain, NOT to strengthen the bone. So what does this tell you? Romo's shoulder is in pain.....

That's interesting - I hope Doc50 reads this and comments. He knows a lot about the procedures.

Doc?

 

[jimmy40]

It's amazing, though it probably shouldn't be, how everybody in this thread just ignores what the resident physicians on the board have to say in order to gin up this career ending conspiracy stuff. Like, fascinating how a mood can override the consensus of a group in the face of direct evidence to the contrary. And nobody seems to care.

He broke a collarbone because a giant landed in him. He broke it again because he came back before it had healed. It's a collarbone. That's it. End of story.

We need a QB of the future because the current great one is at an age where you plan to replace him. He's not retiring imminently. He could get hurt again like any QB. It won't be because of a trick collarbone of all things. But he'll be retiring within the window of a rookie replacement's first contract, so we have to get a replacement ready. It really is as simple as that.

Jordan Hicks weighs about 235, probably 20 pounds more than Romo.

 

[Idgit]

Jordan Hicks weighs about 235, probably 20 pounds more than Romo.

He's still a large man. Driving a body into the ground, and snapping a bone that's built to handle 7 pounds of pressure. If the point of the shoulder gets driven into the ground again, it's going to break. Like a collarbone would in 32 other cities.

This is an engineering problem and not something related to a specific player or his age or years of experience.

 

[jimmy40]

He's still a large man. Driving a body into the ground, and snapping a bone that's built to handle 7 pounds of pressure. If the point of the shoulder gets driven into the ground again, it's going to break. Like a collarbone would in 32 other cities.

This is an engineering problem and not something related to a specific player or his age or years of experience.

So Hicks isn't a giant?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

But what if he is right?

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

I haven't roll an 11 all night. . . .

He is guessing without real basis on a subject as jnday and others have pointed out is mostly a foregone conclusion. He is already damaged goods due to his back. Compare that with his normal work heavy on numbers and logic.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You must of stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night!


i guess I started this conspiracy theory cause I said this here before the Super Bowl.

jobber is a trained very experienced MD. Unless you get an orthopedist in here, he is an expert on the subject.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Does anyone actually believe in the benevolence of a defender not taking a shot at breaking his collar bone if they get the right angle.

Remember back to the time when Aikman was sacked by Clyde Simmons, where the Eagle lifted Aikman and then threw his weight onto Troy, separating his shoulder.

So the Cowboys go where Romo takes them. If it means win or loss for the other team, do any of you believe there isn't a target on that collar bone?

I firmly believe when he got the back injury in 2014, the Commander defender led with his knee to Romo's back. Every replay made me more convinced they knew his back was sore, and were willing to knock him out of the game to win.

This is the major reason I believe you position yourself to get Wentz, because this story will not end with a trophy for Tony if the other team has a shot at ending his day, season, or career.

To view this any other way is flirting with disaster.

 

[Idgit]

So Hicks isn't a giant?

It's a relative term. Relative to a collarbone, he's a giant. What distinction are you trying to make?

 

[CCBoy]

Does anyone actually believe in the benevolence of a defender not taking a shot at breaking his collar bone if they get the right angle.

Remember back to the time when Aikman was sacked by Clyde Simmons, where the Eagle lifted Aikman and then threw his weight onto Troy, separating his shoulder.

So the Cowboys go where Romo takes them. If it means win or loss for the other team, do any of you believe there isn't a target on that collar bone?

I firmly believe when he got the back injury in 2014, the Commander defender led with his knee to Romo's back. Every replay made me more convinced they knew his back was sore, and were willing to knock him out of the game to win.

This is the major reason I believe you position yourself to get Wentz, because this story will not end with a trophy for Tony if the other team has a shot at ending his day, season, or career.

To view this any other way is flirting with disaster.

This is where having a positional coach of Mark Colombo should keep an angry offensive line around their quarterback.

 

[TwoDeep3]

This is where having a positional coach of Mark Colombo should keep an angry offensive line around their quarterback.

Quarterbacks get hit. Romo will be hit. Sorry, my good friend, but I fail to see how their mood will prevent this.

 

[Beast_from_East]

It's amazing, though it probably shouldn't be, how everybody in this thread just ignores what the resident physicians on the board have to say in order to gin up this career ending conspiracy stuff. Like, fascinating how a mood can override the consensus of a group in the face of direct evidence to the contrary. And nobody seems to care.

He broke a collarbone because a giant landed in him. He broke it again because he came back before it had healed. It's a collarbone. That's it. End of story.

We need a QB of the future because the current great one is at an age where you plan to replace him. He's not retiring imminently. He could get hurt again like any QB. It won't be because of a trick collarbone of all things. But he'll be retiring within the window of a rookie replacement's first contract, so we have to get a replacement ready. It really is as simple as that.

Excellent post Idgit..............I don't think Romo is going to retire, not this year or next year.........However, there is no way in hell he is playing 4 more years. He would be 40 years old, there is not one single starting QB in the NFL that is 40 years old. The closest would be Peyton Manning at 39 and even he is showing signs of wearing down (missed 9 games this year).

So now is the perfect time to get Romo's replacement, especially considering that the other top players are really not considered that good this year. Bosa is referred to as Greg Ellis by Broadus, Treadwell refused to run the 40 because is too slow, Jack is a 43 cover LB and those don't go top 5 hardly ever, Ramsey is kinda a jack of all trades, but a master of none since half the teams think he is a CB and the other half think he is a Safety, Hargraves is a migit CB, not even 6 foot tall, ect......maybe Tunsil is worth a top 5 pick, but that would be overkill for us with that many resources tied up in the offensive line.

The only position worth a top 5 pick for us this year is QB and one of the big 3 will be there for us (Goff, Wentz, Lynch)..............that's the only logical move.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Does anyone actually believe in the benevolence of a defender not taking a shot at breaking his collar bone if they get the right angle.

Remember back to the time when Aikman was sacked by Clyde Simmons, where the Eagle lifted Aikman and then threw his weight onto Troy, separating his shoulder.

So the Cowboys go where Romo takes them. If it means win or loss for the other team, do any of you believe there isn't a target on that collar bone?

I firmly believe when he got the back injury in 2014, the Commander defender led with his knee to Romo's back. Every replay made me more convinced they knew his back was sore, and were willing to knock him out of the game to win.

This is the major reason I believe you position yourself to get Wentz, because this story will not end with a trophy for Tony if the other team has a shot at ending his day, season, or career.

To view this any other way is flirting with disaster.

Of course Romo will have a target on his collarbone...........that is why players tell stories of hiding their injuries from the team to keep from going on the injury report............nobody ever wants to go on the injury report because it is like painting a giant target on whatever is injured.

If we are being honest here, if I was an opposing DC, I would blitz the hell out of Romo in the first quarter and see how well that shoulder holds up. Besides, its not like Romo is going to get a roughing call or anything so there is really no down side to telling my guys to take an extra step and fall on top of Romo.

 

[CCBoy]

Quarterbacks get hit. Romo will be hit. Sorry, my good friend, but I fail to see how their mood will prevent this.

Never had to deal with a pissed off offensive line that displayed a ton of aggression to keep their quarterback clean...never mind.

 

[big dog cowboy]

To view this any other way is flirting with disaster.

You get a like just for posting that album cover.

 

[TwoDeep3]

You get a like just for posting that album cover.

On their way up, they played a club I worked in Dallas called Mother Blues. Really a lousy turnout for them because it was a Tuesday night. So I got to stand behind my bar and watch their set. The stage was too small for them, but they flat out jammed that place. Even though there were maybe thirty people there. This would have been around 78 or so. Always liked them. But then Skynard crashed and died and Southern Rock went the way of the dinosaurs.

I think their big number that night was Dreams I'll Never See.

 

[DandyDon52]

You get a like just for posting that album cover.

the artwork is by Frank Frazetta, those were sold as posters, and that group just used that for album covers.

 

[DandyDon52]

He's still a large man. Driving a body into the ground, and snapping a bone that's built to handle 7 pounds of pressure. If the point of the shoulder gets driven into the ground again, it's going to break. Like a collarbone would in 32 other cities.

This is an engineering problem and not something related to a specific player or his age or years of experience.

I could be wrong, but I think the CB broke before tony was rolled on by hicks.
He landed on his elbow and that took the force of the fall.