CFZ Sturm was dead wrong about Dak Prescott

[FanofJerry]

They franchised him the year before and Dak folded at the last minute to sign. He was coming off a broken leg and nothing but garbage-time stats in losses. They guy was mediocre and with a broken leg, it was even more of a risk. If was completely asinine to pay him out such a contract, especially with a no trade-clause.

They owed him nothing in reality for his mediocre play and constant baby-sitting to try and make sure he succeeds. He’s proven in time and time again, he was the weak link being carried by the talent.

Thats fair. I just think it was a tougher situation than you make it out to be. Lots of factors come into play. Bad contracts happen in sports so often...its just not as easy as you are making it out to be. Players will refuse playing for ORGs that blatantly take advantage of players.

But bottomline is...I dont think any team in the league is so good at evaluating QBs that they can just flush decent looking prospects every time their second contract is due. Why dont teams do this is its that easy?

 

[SultanOfSix]

It is so nice to see that in my over 20+ years on Cowboys-themed message boards that there is this itching desire to debate about the QB.

The old Carter/Hutchinson wars were raw and necessary.

The debate now with regard to Prescott and Romo is not.

This ridiculousness with Romo and Prescott debate is not accomplishing anything and is just laced with other issues that have no basis on reality.

It is a battle of the romantic imbeciles from the Romo Era sending their bitterness and pain back at the blind Prescott supporters.

You really can't be surprised about this can you? I mean, it's completely expected.

It's like a relationship that doesn't end with closure. A relationship that ends with closure is always better than the one left open-ended, even if it's not the type of closure you desire.

Every logical football decision supported Romo taking the reigns after Dak did an admirable job substituting for him. And though he was getting up there in age and had a recent history of injuries, he was cleared medically to play. Therefore, there was zero rational reasons to prevent him from doing so. And if Romo got injured again (a possibility) or played badly (unlikely), you could always go back to Dak. But because the organization is still run by a former oil/business guy who thinks he's a football man and was coached by his self-appointed future "Tom Landry" who wasn't even Rich Kotite, they went with superstition (or stupidstition) instead of logic. Now in retrospect, with Dak playing as horribly as he has been recently, of course there is going to be such ruing posts for things that should never have happened, and it has nothing to do with a "romantic" view of the past.

 

[Swagger]

Zeke contract might be questionable. Jaylon Smith was risky. But not Dak. No organization was letting that guy walk and have egg on their face. He had played well enough at a tough position. QB market rates are crazy...thats because ALL ORGANIZATIONS overpay for QBs or the hope for a QB.

Youre leaving things that matter out of your easy explanations. Your easy explanations are not how things are done and I suspect there is valid reason for that.

The Browns let go of Baker Mayfield. #1 pick in the draft with a play off win under his belt same as Prescott. They let him walk and now have a backup QB performing better than him with a top 10 QB paid on the books. Watson will need to play really well to justify the contract as Brissett is doing a very capable job.

I suggested that Hurts should have been drafted by the Cowboys in the 2nd round and they trade Prescott or let him walk. Hurts is on a rookie contract currently in the conversation for MVP whilst Prescott is injured on the sidelines again. Because Hurts is earning peanuts they have been able to load their roster and they have a number of premium draft picks next season in case Hurts is deemed to not be the guy. They made a mistake not drafting Jefferson yet they didn't dwell on it, they continue constructing a strong roster on both sides of the ball. I'm not an Eagles fan just making the point that some teams move on from making a mistake - note the Rams with Goff and bringing in Stafford to win a Superbowl as well.

The disconnect seems to be some people appear to have a view that Prescott was replacing Romo and the gulf was like Mahomes replacing Alex Smith in Kansas City. The irony being that in terms of style of play and ability - Romo was Mahomes and Prescott was Alex Smith in the Cowboys' scenario.

 

[Swagger]

Prescott has struggled to stay healthy the past few seasons. Various injuries to hand/thumb, leg/ankle, thigh and shoulder. Given his contract the smart move would be to make a few enquiries to ascertain if there's any interest from any teams in the league. Whilst Prescott has a no trade clause, if he was told he's done in Dallas and there's no way back regardless of any circumstances it would say a lot about him as a person if he was happy to be a backup QB and not want to be the starter elsewhere. That would actually prove that he was never the guy as to lack the competitive juice to be a starter to me means you are a loser.

 

[jnday]

I'm not trying to be a hater, but I believe Dak has regressed significantly against zone coverages.

He gets visibly confused when secondaries drop back into zones. He is flustered and panicked.

Unless I just forgot about it, I don't remember him being as frazzled against zone coverages in years 2-4.

The Jon Kita effect? Kitna is gone and Dak has gotten worse ever since?

Dak’s problems have always been there , but only a few coaches knew how to expose them. As seasons go by, more and more DCs have altered their game plans to reflect the game plans that had initially stopped Dak dead in his tracks. Every week Dak is facing his worst defensive nightmare and he doesn’t have they talent to beat them.

 

[jnday]

Youre admitting that the way IT SHOULD BE is not how the League works, though.

No team wants a bitter player or to put themselves in a position for a prospect to walk. Check out how the Dallas Mavericks put themselves in a bad situation with Jalen Brunson and he walked.

How the over-simplifiers are suggesting how things should work is not how they actually work. Its way more complicated. You cant just sweep these other variables under the rug in real life if youre an NFL GM. You only can sweep them under the rug if youre an internet GM.

I see that you haven’t posted on this board very much, but you should know that your user ID stinks and I hope that you have a bad day.

 

[jnday]

It is so nice to see that in my over 20+ years on Cowboys-themed message boards that there is this itching desire to debate about the QB.

The old Carter/Hutchinson wars were raw and necessary.

The debate now with regard to Prescott and Romo is not.

This ridiculousness with Romo and Prescott debate is not accomplishing anything and is just laced with other issues that have no basis on reality.

It is a battle of the romantic imbeciles from the Romo Era sending their bitterness and pain back at the blind Prescott supporters.

It is very rare for me to disagree with your posts , but I think you are dead wrong about the Romo fans. I keep on reading about how I have to be a bitter Romo fan because I don’t like Dak, but the ideal had never occurred to me until a Dak superfan accused me of it. For some twisted reason, they think that there has to be some twisted reason for not liking Dak. The reason had nothing to do with Romo. Dak’s lack of talent was the one and only reason for my dislike.IMO, Romo was done due to his injuries. Dak just happened to be at the right place, at the right time to get the position which came after the Moore injury. I think everyone knew that Romo was gone at the end of the year and it didn’t matter who was on the roster. For the life of me, I can’t find one of these mythical Romo fans that can’t let go and believe me when I say that I have been looking for several years. It’s time to put the Romo fallacy to sleep. The only argument that can be made is the decision to stick with Dak when Romo came back. That decision was a typical Jerry move that ended the Cowboys season. Any hate should be directed at Jerry, not Dak and I think that the decision to hate Jerry is justified in this situation.

 

[b0xZZ]

You people are obsessed.


Dak played like garbage in Week 1. He’s been a good QB for most of his career. We’ll see how he responds when he gets healthy.

In the meantime, go Cooper Rush and go Cowboys!

That’s literally all there is to it.

Keep up the cult-ish behavior though. Your anti-Dak crusade depends on it!!!!!!!

Cultish behavior huh? Well we know who you are now.....

 

[jwooten15]

Dak’s problems have always been there , but only a few coaches knew how to expose them. As seasons go by, more and more DCs have altered their game plans to reflect the game plans that had initially stopped Dak dead in his tracks. Every week Dak is facing his worst defensive nightmare and he doesn’t have they talent to beat them.

way to make me depressed

 

[kskboys]

It is very rare for me to disagree with your posts , but I think you are dead wrong about the Romo fans. I keep on reading about how I have to be a bitter Romo fan because I don’t like Dak, but the ideal had never occurred to me until a Dak superfan accused me of it. For some twisted reason, they think that there has to be some twisted reason for not liking Dak. The reason had nothing to do with Romo. Dak’s lack of talent was the one and only reason for my dislike.IMO, Romo was done due to his injuries. Dak just happened to be at the right place, at the right time to get the position which came after the Moore injury. I think everyone knew that Romo was gone at the end of the year and it didn’t matter who was on the roster. For the life of me, I can’t find one of these mythical Romo fans that can’t let go and believe me when I say that I have been looking for several years. It’s time to put the Romo fallacy to sleep. The only argument that can be made is the decision to stick with Dak when Romo came back. That decision was a typical Jerry move that ended the Cowboys season. Any hate should be directed at Jerry, not Dak and I think that the decision to hate Jerry is justified in this situation.

I think that the number of fans who hate Dak due to their Romo love is extremely tiny. Like, maybe 3 people.

 

[NotForLong]

You would be lucky to get a 6th rounder . . . The book is out on Him and He is Brittle . . . Nobodyvwill take on that contract and give compensatition

Prescott has struggled to stay healthy the past few seasons. Various injuries to hand/thumb, leg/ankle, thigh and shoulder. Given his contract the smart move would be to make a few enquiries to ascertain if there's any interest from any teams in the league. Whilst Prescott has a no trade clause, if he was told he's done in Dallas and there's no way back regardless of any circumstances it would say a lot about him as a person if he was happy to be a backup QB and not want to be the starter elsewhere. That would actually prove that he was never the guy as to lack the competitive juice to be a starter to me means you are a loser.

 

[RS12]

I think that the number of fans who hate Dak due to their Romo love is extremely tiny. Like, maybe 3 people.

Yeah I never got that either. While clearly better than his successor, I never thought Romo was good enough enough either.

 

[FanofJerry]

I see that you haven’t posted on this board very much, but you should know that your user ID stinks and I hope that you have a bad day.

winning

 

[Pass2Run]

You people are obsessed.


Dak played like garbage in Week 1. He’s been a good QB for most of his career. We’ll see how he responds when he gets healthy.

In the meantime, go Cooper Rush and go Cowboys!

That’s literally all there is to it.

Keep up the cult-ish behavior though. Your anti-Dak crusade depends on it!!!!!!!

They are obsessed. Tampa has made every QB look stupid.

 

[Swagger]

They are obsessed. Tampa has made every QB look stupid.

Rodgers didn't look stupid last night and the Packers were away not at home. Rodgers looked better against the Bucs than the Vikings.

 

[Nav22]

Rodgers didn't look stupid last night and the Packers were away not at home. Rodgers looked better against the Bucs than the Vikings.

His point was that the Bucs D is very good, Mr. Contrarian.

Rodgers is an all-time great and the Packers scored just 14 points.

 

[Galian Beast]

The reason Romo fans (I'll speak for myself at least) were angry is that Romo was at the point in his career where his mental game was top-notch.

He was borderline PERFECTION in 2014 and didn't have as great of tools in 2015 when he got hurt. We draft a top end running back who could pass pro for him and then give it up for a rookie....

People always say Romo wouldn't hold up, but the reality is we'll never know that. That's what having a backup QB is for, but when the team had never been built for Dak. With a Rookie QB you have to put tons of money and draft resources into the defense. And they didn't start doing that until Dak got expensive. And he isn't good enough for what he is being paid through the salary cap, which means this team will never win with him, which makes it pointless to even watch anymore.

 

[TNCowboy]

the only people who act like the jury is out on Prescott are the small group of Cowboy fans who still believe in him.

He's had one of the NFL's best OLs and several good weapons, and yet has managed only one playoff win in 6 years. The story is over. The book is written. It's painfully obvious who and what Dak Prescott is at this point.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

The reason Romo fans (I'll speak for myself at least) were angry is that Romo was at the point in his career where his mental game was top-notch.

He was borderline PERFECTION in 2014 and didn't have as great of tools in 2015 when he got hurt. We draft a top end running back who could pass pro for him and then give it up for a rookie....

People always say Romo wouldn't hold up, but the reality is we'll never know that. That's what having a backup QB is for, but when the team had never been built for Dak. With a Rookie QB you have to put tons of money and draft resources into the defense. And they didn't start doing that until Dak got expensive. And he isn't good enough for what he is being paid through the salary cap, which means this team will never win with him, which makes it pointless to even watch anymore.

I'm trying to limit my interaction here because of the insanity...but...I did also want to chime in here. Everyone bitc....sorry complains about zeke...but he was drafted with the idea he would compliment Romo's veteran QB skills. We of course know Romo got hurt, then we found out a rookie zeke COULD carry the team with the O-line. If made a false facade that dak was a real QB. We can;t put our vet QB back in would ruin our superstitious. fake win streak.

Well...we are finally finding out what dak can do with a "regular" team NOT built around a veteran QB. Talk about squandering an opportunity. Our of "superstition"? What the.....

I know...Romo haters ALWAYS come back with "but he woulda just got hurt the next play anyway. What a CHEAP and LAZY way to think.

For one....zeke was drafted to protect and run. He did if FOR a late round rookie. But would not have been able to do it for ROMO? Bull.

And for another., DAK DID actually buy Romo time to fully heal instead of play hurt. If you think this doesn;t matter...you don't know sports and how dangerous it is to play hurt and favor the injury.

People claim this argument is less than moot. But it could be one of the worst mistakes in sports. Dak the Savior hasn;t worked out to well after all.

Could we have been better served letting Romo make that run instead? It is a LEGTIMATE question.

 

[FanofJerry]

Its still more complicated than what you are all suggesting. Dak won over the locker after driving the bus to some wins. You put Romo back in and lose games and you have egg on your face and other franchises laughing at you while your locker room morale is killed.

Incoming "never let the laymen(locker room) steer the ship" comments.

Im just saying that the situation with Dak and Romo was a difficult one to navigate. Hindsight is easy to talk about. I guess the Cowboys should have let Romo play on a very short leash. We cant go back now.