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mattjames2010 said:
Haha, what am I rewriting? That teams passed on him? That his core mechanics in college were not even as close as sound as they are now? That he couldn't beat out an old QB that had a terrible 2005/06 season?

What am I rewriting? I never said your crap sites didn't have him ranked highly, I stated he was a late first round to early second round talent initially coming out of college. The draft which is a better indicator of team boards than your armchair scout sites proves what he was: A late first round talent that needed time to develop.

Still waiting for where you point out to where I "rewrote history". :lmao2:
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Free advice - since you are such an evaluator and insider, you should monetize that and set up your own "gold plated turd" site.

Might even get a passing click if you link some porn to it
 
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McLovin said:
THompson said

As told to MMQB's Peter King in 2014:

"Three or four days before the [2005] draft," Thompson says, "we're doing our research, going down the board, and I'm looking, and I think, 'None of these teams are taking a quarterback.' I couldn't find one, after San Francisco. We hadn't really paid attention to Rodgers because we just figured he'd be gone. Plus, we didn't have that big a need there, obviously. So I just buried myself and went to look at all the Rodgers tape -- from games, from the combine, from his pro day. After a couple of days I just felt he was too good to pass. So I said, 'If he falls to us, we're taking him.'"

They knew that the pick would probably do nothing to help the team in the next couple of seasons, but Thompson was confident that the move would look genius "five years" down the line. Now if he could just survive the job long enough to see it happen.

After the Dallas Cowboys opted to stick with Drew Bledsoe (and his young backup, Tony Romo), the New Orleans Saints with Aaron Brooks, the Houston Texans with David Carr and the Kansas City Chiefs with 35-year-old Trent Green, the Green Bay war rooms really started to buzz about the idea of Rodgers making it to them.

The "curse of young hope" is really what caused teams like the Texans, Baltimore Ravens (Kyle Boller) and the Jacksonville Jaguars (Byron Leftwich) to pave the way for Rodgers sliding to a team that did not care at all if they "needed" a quarterback. If you believe a franchise quarterback is available to you, it shouldn't be as simple as declaring him ineligible because you already have one.

Andrew Brandt was a member of one of those Green Bay war rooms in '05 (they have one for the player side of things and one for the financial side) and described to MMQB why they were freaking out at the possibility of getting Rodgers:

"In 2005, we had approximately 20 players rated above the first-round line. When we arrived at our pick, at No. 24, the only name left above that line was Rodgers, who played the same position as one of the most durable players in NFL history: Brett Favre. …

"(After taking Rodgers) we heard the faint sound of boos from the draft party going on below us. Our room was a mixed bag. Some celebrated; others were muted knowing while they would be judged on the short-term; this was a long-term play."


The important part in that was "the curse of young hope." You have no way of knowing where teams may have had Rodgers ranked, but teams can pass if they have a young player already there. So your statement that all teams had him as a late 1st or early second is not proveable - at all. The packers had 20 names in the first and Rodgers was somewhere between 1 and 20 - at worst 4 picks fom the dead middle - not even bottom quartile.

But I know you will provide nothing other than "I knew it then, see - trust me"
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IF Rodgers was a surefire top 5 talent for teams going into the 2005 draft, he would have been selected earlier. I can't believe this is tough for you to understand. Teams in need of a franchise QB allowed him to slip out of the top 20, and you think this wasn't an indication of draft boards? Are you kidding me?

Again: He slipped in the draft, multiple teams in need of franchise QB passed on him. Had poor throwing mechanics in college. Couldn't beat out a QB that looked to be in his twilight years.

Are you in any way going to trump those facts, or are you going to quote irrelevant crap to me? I'm getting bored.
 
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Don't worry guys, when I win the $1.3 billion PowerBall, I'm going to aggressively take the Cowboys over from the Jones family.

I will then remove all mention of the Jones family in the Cowboy history books.
 
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The best part of this? All of the NFC East is eliminated.

We get the 4th pick, the easiest schedule (of the East), our stub QB back, our stub CB back, tons of cap space. Yeah, buddy.
 
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I'm so thankful for Tyron Smith.

I know Williams is a little banged up. But he's supposed to be a top 5 LT too.

I just don't see that happening to Tyron that often.
 
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Daillest88 said:
I honestly believe you could go either way this game. I just hate skin fans so much..especially living in va
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Living in VA as you do, I can understand it. You have the same situation I have with the Saints, and I hate them.

The thing is, I've always considered the Cowboys superior in every way to the Commanders and they've never bothered me too much in spite of being a division rival. They've never bothered me because, unlike the Steelers, 49ers, and Packers (who are also rivals) they're not media darlings. I hate all 3 of those teams a lot more than the Commanders. It's not even close.
 
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Eddie said:
Don't worry guys, when I win the $1.3 billion PowerBall, I'm going to aggressively take the Cowboys over from the Jones family.

I will then remove all mention of the Jones family in the Cowboy history books.
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That's not enough money.
 
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