T.O. Hypothetical

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[casmith07]

I wholeheartedly oppose Owens ever coming to Cowboys Stadium unless it's as an opponent.

But - dude looked like a Greek God in his workout today.

 

[DallasEast]

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[KJJ]

Just watching the T.O. interview on NFL network. Remembering that he was "good" T.O. at Philly for one year, and in Dallas for one year. Of course he always ends up being a distraction in the end.

BUT..... if Garrett could have a conversation with him, and we could get "good" T.O. (I'm talking personality not ability) for just this year.... would anyone take that chance?

Even when TO tries behaving himself he's a distraction because of his reputation. Anything he says or does is blown up into something by the media that causes a distraction. If his team isn't playing well they blame TO claiming he's destroying their locker room. I'm sure he still has some game left but the last three teams he's played for Dallas in 08, Buffalo in 09 and Cincinnati last season all missed the playoffs. He was productive for all three but you have to force him the ball to keep him happy and doing so seems to take away from the team. Buffalo has gotten better without him and so has Cincy. The Cowboys only playoff win in 15 years was without him.

It's clear to me that he destroys a teams chemistry because it's all about keeping him happy. He'll sit there moping on the sidelines even if his team's winning if he doesn't have a catch. TO's a great player but I wouldn't want him around Dez that would be the last thing the Cowboys need. So to answer the question NO I wouldn't want TO back.

 

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[Nav22]

I still like plenty of things about T.O. and I hope someone signs him. Someone other than the Cowboys, but still.

I can't disagree when people blame the media for his issues, but that's part of the package when you sign this guy. He's not smart enough to avoid the microphones, and the media's job is to spin and sell an anti-T.O. story that the public will eat up.

There are receivers whining about a lack of touches all across the league at all times. But it's only a big story if someone like T.O. is doing the whining. So anything that even slightly resembles whining from T.O. will be a lead story on Sportscenter.

Hell, T.O. did his whining PRIVATELY in Dallas and it still leaked and became a huge story.

He was able to lay low for a bit as a Bill and as a Bengal, but a return to Dallas would have Ed Werder salivating.

 

[UVAwahoos]

I still like plenty of things about T.O. and I hope someone signs him. Someone other than the Cowboys, but still.

I can't disagree when people blame the media for his issues, but that's part of the package when you sign this guy. He's not smart enough to avoid the microphones, and the media's job is to spin and sell an anti-T.O. story that the public will eat up.

There are receivers whining about a lack of touches all across the league at all times. But it's only a big story if someone like T.O. is doing the whining. So anything that even slightly resembles whining from T.O. will be a lead story on Sportscenter.

Hell, T.O. did his whining PRIVATELY in Dallas and it still leaked and became a huge story.

He was able to lay low for a bit as a Bill and as a Bengal, but a return to Dallas would have Ed Werder salivating.

Miles, Dez > current TO

That's pretty much all we need to know here. Plus, lotta people seem to forget about his butterfingers and alligator arms. It's just not worth the circus beyond that.

That being said, I LOVED TO for the 2006 and 2007 seasons. Thought he was amazing, and a game-changer. It all went downhill after that contract extension.

 

[DL23]

I wholeheartedly oppose Owens ever coming to Cowboys Stadium unless it's as an opponent.

But - dude looked like a Greek God in his workout today.

What about as a janitor? Or to flip burger patties?

 

[casmith07]

What about as a janitor? Or to flip burger patties?

No. He's got more talent than that.

I'll bet you Washington is taking a long look. Maybe Tennessee with Chris Johnson doing his best disappearing act.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Guys, even if TO was all "well behaved" in this hypothetical scenario.......he is not the receiver he was a couple of seasons ago.


Pass.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Miles, Dez > current TO

That's pretty much all we need to know here. Plus, lotta people seem to forget about his butterfingers and alligator arms. It's just not worth the circus beyond that.

That being said, I LOVED TO for the 2006 and 2007 seasons. Thought he was amazing, and a game-changer. It all went downhill after that contract extension.

Yea, once TO got that new contract from Jerry things went south fast.

 

[DallasEast]

Hell, T.O. did his whining PRIVATELY in Dallas and it still leaked and became a huge story.

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Leaked??

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[JohnnyHopkins]

I was against signing Owens, but he did have two good years in Dallas with no trouble. I suppose we have that to hang on to.

In all seriousness, pretty much any team could sign him for the duration of the season, but longer than that, the only team that could pull it off would be New England. You never heard a peep from Owens when Steve Young was his QB and you wouldn't hear a peep from him with Tom Brady firmly entrenched as the leader of the Pats. Any other team is just asking for what they get.

 

[StarHead69]

I am too lazy to read the first 5 pages of this thread, so I apologize in advance if this has been brought up already.

No way I let T.O. anywhere near Dez Bryant at this point in his career.

 

[Doomsday101]

Funny that no teams sent anyone to his workouts.

Given some injuries in the league I would not be shocked if someone picks him up on a short term contract for little money.

As for Dallas no way we go after him when we have some quality players in house with Austin,Dez and Robinson

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I would say no at this point but let me express a little more clearly why. My no is simply because I don't know what he could bring at his age coming off that serious knee injury.

Now I realise that you'd bring him in, work him out, and give him a physical. That's all fine and dandy but it amounts to exactly nothing in the realm of rather he can actually play football at a high enough level anymore after that knee injury.

So that's why I'd say no, even with me knowing that if there is any guy, at his age, who could over come an injury like that it would be him cause of his freakish ability to stay in great shape and heal.


Now let me tell you why I don't think the personality factor is much of a factor at this point. The guy is 37 years old, coming off a knee injury, and he knows that he's just fighting to have a shot to be on a team at this point.

TO knows coming into any locker room, whatever team it is that eventually gives him a shot, that he isn't the star anymore. His name has name value, of course, but he knows he's not the guy at this point. So I do believe he'd come into any situation knowing that "hey I'm just a guy at this point whose got to work my butt off just to be on this team".

I do believe he knows that I do believe he'll work his butt off to prove that he does belong in the league still, that he does deserve the shot that said team is giving him, and I don't believe he'll provide any of that sideshow distraction stuff at this point.

My entire concern, if I were a GM and Coach at this point, would be rather he could actually provide you anything at all on the field in the #3 spot at this point.


Now, obviously, some will say it's worth the low risk to bring him in and find out, and that's fine, but with younger guys already here I simply wouldn't bother with it.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Funny that no teams sent anyone to his workouts.

Given some injuries in the league I would not be shocked if someone picks him up on a short term contract for little money.

As for Dallas no way we go after him when we have some quality players in house with Austin,Dez and Robinson

I don't know that it's really all that funny. Teams don't generally send people to public workouts like these for Free Agents. If they want to look at TO, if they're in anyway interested, they'll bring him in and give him a private workout and physical.

I don't know that I've ever seen, or heard, of any teams sending people to watch someone workout in a private workout like that one.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't know that it's really all that funny. Teams don't generally send people to public workouts like these for Free Agents. If they want to look at TO, if they're in anyway interested, they'll bring him in and give him a private workout and physical.

I don't know that I've ever seen, or heard, of any teams sending people to watch someone workout in a private workout like that one.

Generally a vet player does not need to do a workout like this as teams will call them in for a workout. TO has gone through some teams in the NFL and word does get around for buyers to beware. Hell no was knocking down his door when he ended up in Dallas, Buffalo or Cinn.

I do think some team with injuries at WR may look at him and offer a short term deal for little money but there is a reason teams are not knocking down his door to bring him in

 

[TellerMorrow34]

The media ran him out of Dallas, ever since Philly the media had it out to make every TO story bigger than it was. You're kidding yourself if you believe otherwise

I do believe there is a degree of truth to this for sure. I do think a lot of things got blown up to more than they were because it was TO.

That being said TO has been his own worst enemy his whole career, and built that reputation that led to things like that, because he never knew when to keep his mouth shut.

He built that image and it really worked against him once the media decide to blow up every little thing he said or did. He can't blame anyone but himself for that cause he set himself up for that.

He was the scapegoat and I was surprised when he was released. I honestly think we kept the wrong WR (Roy Williams). At least TO was productive. But TO doesn't have anyone to blame but himself. He initiated his own demise. just because you don't agree with whats going on doesn't mean you have to tell the whole world about it.

Exactly. The guy was a fantastic WR, and player, and worked his butt off. Unfortunately throughout his career he also allowed his mouth to work a little too much and it cost him.

I have the utmost respect for the shape he keeps his body in and the effort he puts into that. If he spent 10% less time on his body and put it into his mind, he'd be a hell of a player.

I'd argue that he has already been one hell of a player regardless of the other issues. The guy is second all time in receiving yardage and right up there in TD catches.

To hint that he wasn't already one hell of a player is simply not being honest with the career the man has had.

And in the end, he did nothing.

As no one on those Dallas teams did during that span. He wasn't the only one who didn't win anything.

No. He's got more talent than that.

I'll bet you Washington is taking a long look. Maybe Tennessee with Chris Johnson doing his best disappearing act.

I was wondering about Washington myself, since Moss is out for a while and they put Cooley on IR this week.

Generally a vet player does not need to do a workout like this as teams will call them in for a workout. TO has gone through some teams in the NFL and word does get around for buyers to beware. Hell no was knocking down his door when he ended up in Dallas, Buffalo or Cinn.

I do think some team with injuries at WR may look at him and offer a short term deal for little money but there is a reason teams are not knocking down his door to bring him in

I think someone will pick him up but I do agree there are many reasons that people aren't knocking down his door, the biggest of which, I believe anyway, are that he's a 37 year old WR whose trying to comeback from an ACL injury. Pretty tough odds for the guy.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think someone will pick him up but I do agree there are many reasons that people aren't knocking down his door, the biggest of which, I believe anyway, are that he's a 37 year old WR whose trying to comeback from an ACL injury. Pretty tough odds for the guy.[/QUOTE]


I think that plays a part but come on a WR puts up the numbers he has and yet few teams over the last few season wanted anything to do with him.

TO is a problem player and teams know it, it was not created by the media it was created by TO actions be it a sideline fight with a coach in SF and in Philly as well as the sideline fight with McNabb or making claims in Dallas that Witten and Romo were drawing up plays without him.

There is a laundry list that TO has built over the years if not then you would see more teams showing interest.

As I mentioned I do think someone will claim him for the remainder of the season be it Washington or Tenn who have both lost key players at WR so yes I think someone will get him