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DallasDomination;1220553 said:
I've been working all week over time so I havent had time to catch up on the Boys...


What did the freaking idiot say this time?...I seen the preview of the interview and He seemed like He was blaming his drops on the team...He's a little You know what.

This is another misconception. He blamed his lack of concentration on the distraction surrounding the leakage of information that was occuring from the organization for things that happened to players in all organizations just because he was TO, and this distraction and his own trust issues was what was causing him to drop balls.
 

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Dale;1220544 said:
Unless we can snag Johnson from Houston, who is going to come in and produce 90 catches for 1200+ or so yards and 10 scores? I mean, there aren't many other receivers in this league matching TO's numbers, even in a "down" season. I am skeptical we can just insert Austin or some mid-range free agent acquisition and move on without any kinks.

At the end of the day, Parcells is turning things to gold lately. I'll trust him if he unloads TO. But I will be skeptical until a new guy comes in and matches his production, if indeed he's released.

And, at the same time, I'll worry about Romo's development if we remove his security blanket and the guy he works with after practices on a daily basis.

Dale, If Owens was putting his numbers up with elite talent..if he were making the same multi tackle breaking YAC runs, if he were NOT getting his numbers on QUANTITY instead of QUALITY, I'd agree with you 100 percent.

But this ain't the same dog who ran in Philly or SF. It's an aging mutt that still has significant size-speed ratio but is in obvious decline. Still very good, but no longer primo.

And it's a b*#%h that has to be fed constantly to have impact.

Uh - uh. Another starter will need to be found or drafted or developed. But take the excess of targets Owens gets and spread them to Witten, Glenn, Crayton and utilize MBII and JJ more out of the backfield..there are weapons galore here already, and Hurd, Rector and Austin are being developed .
I suspect Bill sees something special in one or more of these kids.

Just get a young receiver in here who can grow in tandem with Romo, as Irvin did with Aikman (he may already be here for all we know). Do we really want two starting recievers aged 33 next year. (And TG is going nowhere).

There'll be some fall off at first as no kid will draw the attention Owens does..but Glenn is always either doubled or gets rolling c...Pat is reliable if not 'glamerous', Jason increasingly attuned with his roommate.

Owens can be replaced.

He's about number of targets now, not great talent.

We are not talking about replacing Irvin in his prime.
 

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zrinkill;1220539 said:
I agree with you That Romo is the best thing to happen to the Cowboys in a long time ....

But the 2 biggest story's in Football this year have been T.O. coming to Dallas ..... and Romo being a sensation ....

Jerry is in Heaven and will milk it for as many years as he can. T.O. and Romo are dollar signs and championships in Jerry's eyes ....

And he will keep them both.

Not if Parcell's makes Jerry choose between staying on another year or TO. We don't know how irrated Bill is with TO because he's done a great job of minimizing it all. But, if Bill wants him gone, TO will be gone.
 

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LaTunaNostra;1220541 said:
We shall see! :)

I think the both will be Parcells and Romo...JJ may like the spotlight but not the media BS he has to spin because of T.O. It was the negative publicity of the 'drug era" that chagned his mind to start winning with character guys because he thinks of the fans and how it is a reflection on the cowboys.

T.O. is replaceable but Romo/Parcells is not. Hell if T.O. get hurts (ala eagles when he got hurt and they still went to the SB but still lost with him) then I have confidence is your sam hurds and miles austins of the world that we can still win. Hell we may be better off because they wont get double team and will be able to really make plays.

Just dont understimate Parcells influence nor JJ need for peace while winning.
T.O. has shown us all, with this interview, that he simply will not change and wants it all to be about him.

Mickey said to put your T.O. filters on. Well it hard to filter a player who blames the media for his drops and whines cause the coach doesnt talk to you and says he doesnt trust his teammates. And I am sure he feels hurt cause they didnt fly to L.A. for your party when they probably wanted to work out or stay focused on the big game this week.

T.O. I rather have your understudy Sam Hurd ( whose decided his future meant more than your party so he cut his phone off) than you!
 

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Dale;1220567 said:
That's the thing, though. Even though he's not "lighting it up," isn't he like in the top five of the conference in every receiving category?

I think it's easy to point out that he's not putting up numbers like he did in '04. But who can come in and even match TO's production of '06?

My concern, as previously stated, is the ramifications on Romo's development. We'd be stripping him of a legitimate threat and a guy that demands attention. Everything's just clicking SO well on offense. I hadn't seen our offense look like this in years. I'd hate to voluntarily alter it and risk making it worse.

It's similar to the "Get rid of Flo" Crowd. Someone needs to replace them before you can get rid of them. These guys don't grow on trees you know, Pro Bowl Caliber LT and All Pro Receiver.
 

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Dale;1220567 said:
That's the thing, though. Even though he's not "lighting it up," isn't he like in the top five of the conference in every receiving category?

I think it's easy to point out that he's not putting up numbers like he did in '04. But who can come in and even match TO's production of '06?

My concern, as previously stated, is the ramifications on Romo's development. We'd be stripping him of a legitimate threat and a guy that demands attention. Everything's just clicking SO well on offense. I hadn't seen our offense look like this in years. I'd hate to voluntarily alter it and risk making it worse.

You make a good point. And, I totally agree...The offense hasn't fired on all cylinders in a long, long time. It's really a hard decision to make. I do think that whoever our #1 is would be doing really well - with Romo at the helm.

Romo doesn't seem to have a problem hitting anyone that's open, so I don't think it's a special TO/Romo connection. I do think we would need to find a special replacement - but I don't that TO is that irreplaceable.
 

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da_boyz_mk;1220343 said:
Let's just hope we have a great game today and TO gets about 8 catches for 100 plus yards with a TD...maybe that'll calm things down a little bit





at least until next week:rolleyes:

the problem is that TO is getting alot of balls now, has been for the past 6 weeks
 

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peplaw06;1220551 said:
I seriously doubt it was his idea for BSPN to focus on that quote as much as they did. IMO that's the media trying to be dramatic.

Keen observation. :p:

We wouldn't be where we are right now without TO on the field. Feel free to deconstruct that truth.
 

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jeff;1220589 said:
Romo doesn't seem to have a problem hitting anyone that's open, so I don't think it's a special TO/Romo connection. I do think we would need to find a special replacement - but I don't that TO is that irreplaceable.

Yes, it's Romo's talent and field vision that will allow us to cut ties with Owens, just as it is TR's charisma that will satiate Jerry's hunger for press attention and jersey sales.;)
 

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summerisfunner;1220594 said:
the problem is that TO is getting alot of balls now, has been for the past 6 weeks

What "past six weeks"?

All year, even the Philly game when he threw a hissy fit.

One more time - there has never been ONE game this season, with either Tony OR Stonehenge, that Owens has not had more passes thrown his way than any other receiver.

And I do not think his stats are so 'hot' considering the number of times he gets fed.

And not with Terry getting as much coverage as he has. :)
 

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LaTunaNostra;1220601 said:
Yes, it's Romo's talent and field vision that will allow us to cut ties with Owens, just as it is TR's charisma that will satiate Jerry's hunger for press attention and jersey sales.;)

Jerry wants to win more than anything - and not look like an idiot if at all possible. When you're talking about a brandname like the Cowboys, there is such a thing as bad publicity and I don't Jerry will stand for a lot of negativity from TO. Winning will sell jerseys - and if we can do that (with or without TO) Jerry is happy. Ultimately, I think BP has the keys to personnel and I don't think he has a high tolerence for TO type players.
 

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LaTunaNostra;1220334 said:
I didn't say it was 'nothing'.

I am saying shut the F up about it in the middle of a playoff race. It just gives rivals ammunition, and brings the wrong kind of attention on this team..

Airing your gripes on national tv does not serve this TEAM well.

Neither does crying like a little girl on national tv because the head coach didn't ask you how you were after your OD.

But go ahead and spin it to an advantage for Dallas.


Here's a spin to the advantage for the Cowboys for ya!

This is all contrived. BP, TO and the Boys are in cahoots to spread a different story about the team so they can have the fake impression of being in disarray.

The Cowboys are "sucking" everyone!!!

Meanwhile, Romo continues to have incredible success and we roll into the playoffs with Romo quietly relegated back to a second story behind TO. It's the Vince McMahon style of PR. TO is the ultimate "bad guy" and the media just can't stay away.

I'd write more on this but a black helicopter just landed on my lawn. That's what I get for running out of tinfoil! Damn spiders keep ratting me out!

:D
 

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LaTunaNostra;1220606 said:
What "past six weeks"?

sorry, 7, since ROmo has been the starter, TO has seen his production skyrocket, yet is still complaining, I was replying to the poster that said TO needs 9 balls for 100 yards this week for him to shut-up

I was merely relating that TO is having a huge stats inflation w/ Romo as the starter, he'll never shut-up, that's just the way he is

and TO is getting just as much coverage, if not more, than TG
 

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jeff;1220612 said:
Jerry wants to win more than anything - and not look like an idiot if at all possible. When you're talking about a brandname like the Cowboys, there is such a thing as bad publicity and I don't Jerry will stand for a lot of negativity from TO. Winning will sell jerseys - and if we can do that (with or without TO) Jerry is happy. Ultimately, I think BP has the keys to personnel and I don't think he has a high tolerence for TO type players.

All year, in pcs, when Bill is asked how 'the player' is doing, he has answered "all right".

Not once has he lauded Owens, not once has he singled out a superb play, not once has he mentioned an exceptionally run route, or a gutsy play, or a fabulous catch. Not once called him a 'dynamic' player. Not once praised a particular play as he does TG on almost a weekly basis.

Now that's just fine - because 'celebrity' playmaking is not what Bill wants anyway. That's what the Madden II portion of the fanbase craves, not Bill Parcells.

Owens role here as a glorified possession receiver, a very effective chain mover, is EXACTLY what Parcells envisions for a ball control, play action oriented offense.

I have no doubt that Bill is happy with his game, drops or not, demands to be fed or not. The chains move. Period.

But that same possession nature of his game is also what will allow him to be cut without feeling a great loss - he isn't theTO of 2004. You're not losing an exceptional talent now. Just a higher grade KJ.

It's sad, really, because no coach will esteem this chain moving role as much as Bill, and Owens, the fool, doesn't realize under Bill Parcells he could extend his career AND amass great stats.

He is already on target to beat his career best year IN passes targeted.

But he can't shut up..he can't shut up because being what he is now, a COG, albeit an important one, is not a glorious enough status for him to be able to live with. He's gotta keep pushing himelf forward as he did on ESPN today ( and yeah, ESPN didn't hold a gun to his head to make him talk).

It's Owens' need to be the center of attention that will end his tenure here. He just can't accept not being the focus of 'everything'. The more his elite talent declines, the more he will need to bring the attention back to himself in some other way, which of course, since he's stunningly stupid, will be a negative way.

It's a darn shame really...for himself more than anyone.

He had a goldmine here. In more ways than one - right owner, the 'right' coach, a partner receiver who not just doesn't squawk about not getting the ball, but befriends him, a talented young QB who can take advantage of a vet. good run game...

..instead he goes on tv to whine his hc didn't send him flowers when he ODed.

Geez, at leasts Parcells didn't text message him "OD on your own time".:laugh2:
 

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LaTunaNostra;1220326 said:
Plus

"I'm not wanted", boo hoo, "I feel betrayed", boo hoo, and "I'm not into it". Boo hoo.

Pitiful.

What is annoying and disappointing are his excuses for the dropped passes of being distraught over some of the issues that have befallen him such as the news leaks and the hyper-vigilance. I wouldn't mind the Mr. Sensitive routine so much if he practiced what he preached.

Chuckling away about not having his focus during a Parcells meeting because of his upcoming birthday party is childish and arrogant. Plenty of players are challenged with issues on and off the field and perform to expectations.
 

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can someones recap this interview a lil bit--it seems like it was a little controversial....
 

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summerisfunner;1220634 said:
and TO is getting just as much coverage, if not more, than TG

Well, at least you've come around to 'just as much'/'IF not more' rather than insinuating Glenn doesn't command enough respect to get doubled.:D
 
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