T.O. puts the loss on his shoulders, think anyone else is willing to do that?

[trickblue]

Receivers drop passes, ... running backs, QB's & receivers fumble, ... linemen hold, ... DB's get called for interference, ... kick returners drop kicks, ... FG's get blocked, QB's overthrow receivers.

Anyone who has ever watched football realizes these thing happen.

Maybe they shouldn't but they do.

The blasting of Owens for missing a catch is amusing, because it is the same posters that blast him for anything and everything.

Get on him for the EZ celebration, that was bad.

But drops are just a part of the game along with all of the other things I mention above.

It is very unfortunate that a pass was dropped, it should have been caught, but a pass was overthrown to Glenn and nobody is blasting the QB, nor should they.

Blasting Owens for every single thing he does or does not do is getting real tired like Democrats blasting Bush for every single thing he does or does not do.

Pick your battles, recognize when someone does good and then your opinion will be respected more when you question them if they don't perform.

Actually you can't find a post of me blasting Owens this year prior to today I don't think...

I have two issues with him this year, the drop on fourth down and the drop yesterday. Those both cost us dearly.

I actually had my popcorn out yesterday but unfortunately I scattered it all over the den when he dropped that pass...

 

[Juke99]

You are right, the next time it might hurt the team.

I don't particularly care for any EZ celebrations but our society had embraced them and love them so the NFL lets them do them.

The real thing that sucks is that the rules are written so that if Owens would not have used the ball it would have been OK.

That is stupid.

I wish they would just hand the ball to the referee like Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, OJ, Gale Sayers, etc.

I might be missing something...doesn't the rule also state that a player cannot lie on the ground.

I think and endzone celebration, if not premeditated, is just fine.

Hey, spike the ball...throw it into the stands like Drew Pearson did after the Hail Mary...

But this stuff is pure bush league.

And...when a player KNOWS the rule and does it anyway...wow.

And when confronted after...and he STILL replies "It's what I do"

Are ya kidding me???

 

[WV Cowboy]

The defending of Owens is amusing, because it is the same poster who defends him for anything and everything, even a routine perfectly thrown ball for a TD that he dropped like he's freaking Taylor Jacobs.

Sometimes he needs defended. Sometimes he needs bashed.

This is bashing time. He destroyed the team's momentum.

I didn't defend him, I said he should have caught the ball, and I have said it more than once.

Though I do realize that even the best players aren't perfect.

Not Emmit, not Troy, not Bledsoe, not Romo, not T Glenn, not Roy, not any of them.

I think Roy cost us big time yesterday, more than once, but you don't see me blasting him or blaming the loss on him.

 

[khiladi]

The defending of Owens is amusing, because it is the same poster who defends him for anything and everything, even a routine perfectly thrown ball for a TD that he dropped like he's freaking Taylor Jacobs.

Sometimes he needs defended. Sometimes he needs bashed.

This is bashing time. He destroyed the team's momentum.

Destroyed the team's momentum? How did he do that? Is this another blatant exxageration?

Roy Williams had a sure interception that was dropped the next drive... that would have put us in great field position to get at least a field goal, making the game a two score possession...

the Commanders than missed a 49 field goal, and we moved the ball to the 26... looks to me like we had momentum even after that pass..

but you know.. it's all on TO...

One more time... he should have caught the ball, but to focus on TO is nonsense...

We lost ultimately because of a FLUKE PLAY... we could have killed the Commanders if we didn't make mistakes, such as penalties and TO's drop...

 

[trickblue]

Destroyed the team's momentum? How did he do that? Is this another blatant exxageration?

Roy Williams had a sure interception that was dropped the next drive... that would have put us in great field position to get at least a field goal, making the game a two score possession...

the Commanders than missed a 49 field goal, and we moved the ball to the 26... looks to me like we had momentum even after that pass..

but you know.. it's all on TO...

One more time... he should have caught the ball, but to focus on TO is nonsense...

I think you can find a thread on here for every bonehead play that cost us yesterday... you just happen to be in the "Blame TO" thread...

 

[superpunk]

Destroyed the team's momentum? How did he do that? Is this another blatant exxageration?

Roy Williams had a sure interception that was dropped the next drive... that would have put us in great field position to get at least a field goal, making the game a two score possession...

the Commanders than missed a 49 field goal, and we moved the ball to the 26... looks to me like we had momentum even after that pass..

but you know.. it's all on TO...

One more time... he should have caught the ball, but to focus on TO is nonsense...

We lost ultimately because of a FLUKE PLAY... we could have killed the Commanders if we didn't make mistakes, such as penalties and TO's drop...

Yeah. It's nonsense to think that our 25 million dollar receiver, who fancies himself the best in the league, complained about the guy "pulling the trigger", threw fits on the sideline, shouldn't be focused on when he drops a perfectly thrown pass from the guy "pulling the trigger" that was a sure TD.

Because then that fluke play wouldn't have mattered. Nonsense, I say.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I might be missing something...doesn't the rule also state that a player cannot lie on the ground.

I think and endzone celebration, if not premeditated, is just fine.

Hey, spike the ball...throw it into the stands like Drew Pearson did after the Hail Mary...

But this stuff is pure bush league.

And...when a player KNOWS the rule and does it anyway...wow.

And when confronted after...and he STILL replies "It's what I do"

Are ya kidding me???

That just solidifies my point. You can dance around like a chicken with your head cut off, strut around like Hines Ward, even jump into the stands, but can't lay motionless on the ground.

The NFL just needs to stop ridiculous dances and have them go celebrate with their teammates on the sidelines, where they can roll around or jump up and down if they want to.

 

[Juke99]

That just solidifies my point. You can dance around like a chicken with your head cut off, strut around like Hines Ward, even jump into the stands, but can't lay motionless on the ground.

The NFL just needs to stop ridiculous dances and have them go celebrate with their teammates on the sidelines, where they can roll around or jump up and down if they want to.

None of it matters to me. If the rule was that you can't go into the endzone and stand on one leg..then so be it.

DON'T DO IT.

That's the thing that has me ticked off.

He knew it. And did it anyway. And then afterwards, he said "It's what I do" in spite of Parcells talking to him about it.

The guy is a jerk. Period.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Yeah. It's nonsense to think that our 25 million dollar receiver, who fancies himself the best in the league, complained about the guy "pulling the trigger", threw fits on the sideline, shouldn't be focused on when he drops a perfectly thrown pass from the guy "pulling the trigger" that was a sure TD.

Because then that fluke play wouldn't have mattered. Nonsense, I say.

Dude, everyone says he should have caught it, even Owens, .. get over it.

He made a great 3rd down catch on the left sidelines where he finger caught a pass thrown too far and then tip-toed both feet to get the first down.

His TD pass was another great catch that he had, .. got hit and bobbled, then caught it again.

He is a great WR, we benefit from him being on the team, he dropped a pass, .. move on.

 

[superpunk]

Dude, everyone says he should have caught it, even Owens, .. get over it.

He made a great 3rd down catch on the left sidelines where he finger caught a pass thrown too far and then tip-toed both feet to get the first down.

His TD pass was another great catch that he had, .. got hit and bobbled, then caught it again.

He is a great WR, we benefit from him being on the team, he dropped a pass, .. move on.

Yay. He owned up to it. We should just move along now. I'm soooooo thrilled he could stand up and own up to that. That owning up has really made a difference in two tough divisional losses. Thank goodness we have him on the team. I don't know that we could count on these other scrubs to "lose their concentration" at critical moments in critical games and drop the ball. Only the best can perform at that level.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Yay. He owned up to it. We should just move along now.

What else do you suggest we do ?

Even Parcells said the play that lost the game was the blocked FG attempt.

Carry on with your sarcasm and hate.

To blame one person for the outcome of any professional game is evidence of ignorance.

 

[superpunk]

What else do you suggest we do ?

Even Parcells said the play that lost the game was the blocked FG attempt.

Carry on with your sarcasm and hate.

To blame one person for the outcome of any professional game is evidence of ignorance.

Yeah. Anyone who faults TO is blaming only one person.

What do you call blindly defending one person regardless of how badly he screws up, shoots his mouth off, or costs the team?

What is that evidence of?

 

[StarAmongStars]

Get off TO's back jack!

What do you expect a star receiver to do when his QB is benched in favor of a rookie? :laugh1:

Anybody that doesn't realize you need a strong armed QB for a downfield threat like TO is fooling themself.

Bledsoe hit him for 2 TD's in the Houston game and was starting to find his groove then is benched? ***!

 

[trickblue]

Get off TO's back jack!

What do you expect a star receiver to do when his QB is benched in favor of a rookie? :laugh1:

Anybody that doesn't realize you need a strong armed QB for a downfield threat like TO is fooling themself.

Bledsoe hit him for 2 TD's in the Houston game and was starting to find his groove then is benched? ***!

Your schtick is annoying...

 

[Doomsday101]

Get off TO's back jack!

What do you expect a star receiver to do when his QB is benched in favor of a rookie? :laugh1:

Anybody that doesn't realize you need a strong armed QB for a downfield threat like TO is fooling themself.

Bledsoe hit him for 2 TD's in the Houston game and was starting to find his groove then is benched? ***!

Go buy a clue this is pure non-sense or else you really don't know jack about football.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Yeah. Anyone who faults TO is blaming only one person.

What do you call blindly defending one person regardless of how badly he screws up, shoots his mouth off, or costs the team?

What is that evidence of?

If you had been reading my posts, you would have seen where I called him on the EZ celebration, totally out of line, and said he should have caught the long pass.

I have not blindly defended him.

I also am not guilty of faulting one person for his performance during the game simply because I hated him prior to the game, like others have.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Your schtick is annoying...

:laugh2:

And I cant remeber the last time I have heard someone refer to someone else as "Jack". Must have been in some of Richard Pryor's great standups of the 80s'.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Marvin Harrison would not have been penalized IMO, if the ball hadnt hit the defender. It certainly wasnt some scripted celebration, it was a simple spike after an amazing catch, that took a bad bounce.

 

[superpunk]

If you had been reading my posts, you would have seen where I called him on the EZ celebration, totally out of line, and said he should have caught the long pass.

I have not blindly defended him.

I also am not guilty of faulting one person for his performance during the game simply because I hated him prior to the game, like others have.

My guess is, if you look at people calling TO out, they have commented as well on several other disappointing areas of the team. They're not singling out poor TO. And they're not doing it because of some alleged prior hate, those people have left the forum for the most part. He deserves all the criticism he gets for this game, for as long as he gets it. It comes with the territory, and it's not unjust, or some media creation, this time. So you can stop suggesting that you can read everyone's motivation for criticizing TO.

 

[WV Cowboy]

My guess is, if you look at people calling TO out, they have commented as well on several other disappointing areas of the team. They're not singling out poor TO. And they're not doing it because of some alleged prior hate, those people have left the forum for the most part. He deserves all the criticism he gets for this game, for as long as he gets it. It comes with the territory, and it's not unjust, or some media creation, this time. So you can stop suggesting that you can read everyone's motivation for criticizing TO.

Right ... far be it from me to suggest that anyone has any prior hate for Owens, or that they are singling him out in any way today.

Left the forum ?? You're kidding, right ? :laugh2: