T.O. speed

[AdamJT13]

I sincerely doubt that. he runs what, a 4.8? 4.9? At best? Every single QB, WR, RB, and DB on my average HS team could run better than that.

Your high school buddies (some of whom I'm certain Bledsoe could beat in a race) don't represent 95 percent of the world population, you know. Bledsoe might not be speedy for an NFL quarterback (he's faster than some others, though), but I guarantee you there aren't 331 million people on the planet faster than he is.

 

[big dog cowboy]

HH, better let this one go brother. It could turn out like the other night.

 

[BigDFan5]

Ah yes the infamous Crayton burning Taylor play (even though Taylor was never lined up across from him,

Then you must be one of the very few Commanders fans who has never said Moss burned Roy Williams right?

taylor just didnt see the play fast enough to react in time). Hey ill give it to ya, Crayton made the game winning TD, but its not like that game had playoff implications. I'm not gonna say it didnt hurt, cuz it did, but i bet moss beating you guys deep hurt more.

Taylor bit on Keyshawns route, there was nothing that could be done

 

[CrazyCowboy]

TO seems to win 99 percent of the races to the endzone

 

[JonCJG]

 

[Jarv]

Relax guy, I'm not here trying to bring up who owns who. As for us choking in the playoffs, well thats just totally wrong. Seattle was better than us that day, we had no offense.

I'm one of the most relaxed people I know bro...

I was just commenting on your quote about about how you said our loss to you hurts more than your loss to us.

As far as being wrong about the choking, well thats just a matter of opinion. You really think you never had a chance to win that game ? Even with Seattles top scoring threat out ?

I guess I had a higher opinion of your team than you did ?

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Rice wasn't a burner. Neither was Irvin.
.

Rice always perplexed me because he ran a poor forty time before his draft. However, it was pretty evident to me that he was much faster than his 4.7 time suggested. He may not have been Santana Moss or Steve Smith fast, but I think he was pretty darn fast. Rice did say that the reason why he felt he ran a poor 40 time was that he "just couldn't get up for running it." There wasn't a real sense of competition for Rice and that's why he turned in a lousy time. I'm pretty sure Owens' 40 time when he was in college was around 4.6 if I'm not mistaken. But I think it's obvious that he's faster than than.


Rich........

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Isn't a yard longer than a meter? I thought it was. If it is, then 100 yards would be further than 100 meters, making a 10.16 in 100 yards more impressive than a 10.16 in 100 meters.

I might be thinking wrong, and I'm breaking the 11th commandment (Thou shalt not disagree with Adam), but I think a yard is longer than a meter.

Edit: I should've checked first. A meter is longer than a yard... so you were right Adam.

1 Meter = 1.09361329833771 yards.

 

[Jarv]

Rice always perplexed me because he ran a poor forty time before his draft. However, it was pretty evident to me that he was much faster than his 4.7 time suggested. He may not have been Santana Moss or Steve Smith fast, but I think he was pretty darn fast. Rice did say that the reason why he felt he ran a poor 40 time was that he "just couldn't get up for running it." There wasn't a real sense of competition for Rice and that's why he turned in a lousy time. I'm pretty sure Owens' 40 time when he was in college was around 4.6 if I'm not mistaken. But I think it's obvious that he's faster than than.


Rich........

Game situations vs. track situations.

I think some players loose more speed with pads on than others do.

 

[JonCJG]

If T.O. has Rice Game Day speed we are ok. Check out the 2nd play.....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=u1OB2iADyf0&search=dallas%20cowboys%20vs.%20

 

[kartr]

Drew Bledsoe is faster than 95 percent of the people on the planet.

Then we must be a race of turtles.:laugh1:

 

[kartr]

Your high school buddies (some of whom I'm certain Bledsoe could beat in a race) don't represent 95 percent of the world population, you know. Bledsoe might not be speedy for an NFL quarterback (he's faster than some others, though), but I guarantee you there aren't 331 million people on the planet faster than he is.

That can't be true, he can't even outrun an overweight and overage Warren Sapp.

 

[BigWillie]

I about busted a gut laughing when I read T.O. said he ran a 4.19 electronically timed 40 yard dash.

If he ran that electronic, he would be running 3.94-4.01 as a handtimed 40 yard dash.

Is T.O. fast? Yes. Is he that fast? No.

Personally, I don't care about this whole 40 yard thing. They are wearing no pads, and in alot of instances, wearing track cleats on a track surface. How does that equate to football speed? It doesn't. Period.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Game situations vs. track situations.

I think some players loose more speed with pads on than others do.

That's probably true, but not nearly as bad as a lot of people think.

Deion always claims it to be "next man speed." You may not run a good forty time, but when you get on the field, you always make sure to outrun the "next man" closest to you. Race horses react in a similar fashion as well.


Rich........

 

[InmanRoshi]

Parcells said what made Jerry Rice so unique was his stamina. He could just run you into the dirt. Some guys can run a 4.3 on a track once, but how fast are they running late in the 4th quarter after they've ran 60 offensive snaps? Stamina can be just as much of a genetic gift as raw speed. To continue the race horse analagies, its like a quarterhorse trying to run a long race with thoroughbreds. Two different breeds of the same animal.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Parcells said what made Jerry Rice so unique was his stamina. He could just run you into the dirt. Some guys can run a 4.3 on a track once, but how fast are they running late in the 4th quarter after they've ran 60 offensive snaps? Stamina can be just as much of a genetic gift as raw speed. To continue the race horse analagies, its like a quarterhorse trying to run a long race with thoroughbreds. Two different breeds of the same animal.

My reference is to the old match races they used to do. IIRC, horses could often run a far faster time in a match race than in the regular competition. However, they stopped doing them since horses were prone to destroying themselves by running too fast to compete.

Here's something I found to help gauge Owens' speed.

Terrell Owens outleaned Michael Westbrook in the 100 yard dash
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Dugout/8973/comp/00final.html

And then this:

Westbrook led Washington in receptions (57) last season while ranking tied for first in touchdown catches (four) and second in receiving yards (664). He started every game, making a complete comeback from a left knee injury (torn ACL) that had caused him to miss most of the 2000 season. He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.35 seconds during a Bengals workout last month
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/CIN/5487998

Along with this:

Throughout last week, though, NFL coaches and scouts were saying that
the Commanders were about to get a potentially dominant player if they
got Westbrook. His size (6 feet 3-1/2), speed (between 4.42 and 4.49
seconds in the 40-yard dash)
http://www.webskins.org/adraft.html

Rich........

 

[apickmans]

I'm one of the most relaxed people I know bro...

I was just commenting on your quote about about how you said our loss to you hurts more than your loss to us.

As far as being wrong about the choking, well thats just a matter of opinion. You really think you never had a chance to win that game ? Even with Seattles top scoring threat out ?

I guess I had a higher opinion of your team than you did ?

Haha yeah if i said the Commanders should of beaten the seahawks i bet you would of called me a homer right?? Of course we had a chance to win that game, but were just outplayed (and we were 10 point underdogs mind you). It wasnt so much that Alexander was out but that our offense was so inept that day, and the previous week vs Tampa bay.

 

[5Stars]

It wasnt so much that Alexander was out but that our offense was so inept that day, and the previous week vs Tampa bay.

That sounds like an excuse....!

Hey, you RedStinks have come here preaching how the Cowboys could not get up/motivated to beat you guys in the last game, and how a GOOD team would have been motivated!

Now, you say this?

RedStink logic, working again from our Nations Capital!

 

[apickmans]

That sounds like an excuse....!

Hey, you RedStinks have come here preaching how the Cowboys could not get up/motivated to beat you guys in the last game, and how a GOOD team would have been motivated!

Now, you say this?

RedStink logic, working again from our Nations Capital!

Geezus 5 stars are you serious?? How is that an excuse if thats the truth!? Even all you cowboy fans give us crap saying how bad our offense was in the postseason. I never said the cowboys could not get up/motivated to beat us. I think it was a combination of your team's injuries, us playing with a lot of confidence, playing at home, and great play calling/execution.

 

[5Stars]

Geezus 5 stars are you serious?? How is that an excuse if thats the truth!? Even all you cowboy fans give us crap saying how bad our offense was in the postseason. I never said the cowboys could not get up/motivated to beat us. I think it was a combination of your team's injuries, us playing with a lot of confidence, playing at home, and great play calling/execution.

No, you guys have been making fun of how you thumped us that last game...saying that since the Boyz had a chance to get into the playoffs with a win, but lost instead, that "the Cowboys could not get up for a big game...a good team would have been motivated...a good team would have blah, blah, blah...."

There are Cowboy posters here that have read that.....

Then on the other side, when you guys lost...it's because of a bad hair day?