T.O. Spitting on Hall *** MERGED THREAD ***

[smarta5150]

wikipedia says Sean Taylor was fined 17,000 (his paycheck for the week) and not suspended. No way TO can get suspended (even though I think he should be).

If Taylor and Reeves dont get suspended why the hell should TO get suspended? There isnt even video evidence of this.

 

[coogrfan]

If Taylor and Reeves dont get suspended why the hell should TO get suspended? There isnt even video evidence of this.

Because we have a new commish? Because we're talking about Owens, a guy with a long history of unsportsmanlike behavior?

 

[smarta5150]

Because we have a new commish? Because we're talking about Owens, a guy with a long history of unsportsmanlike behavior?

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

Cause Sean Taylor doesnt have a history??

The guy has gun charges and faced 3 year prison time.

And dont get me started on Romanowski.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[trueblue1687]

I'm pretty sure TO is bipolar which would explain why he spat in the players face. He was probably experiencing a manic high at the time. During manic periods, patients will resort to irrational behavior based on the extreme high they are feeling. Bipolar patients have manic highs and depressing lows, which is also why TO will go into these depressive moods despite having no reason to do so. It also relates to his suicide attempt. Alcohol exacerbates depression and bipolar disorder. When bipolar patients are going through their depression period, drinking alcohol will just make it worse.

What's interesting is that many benzodiazepams and other antidepressants are very safe even in extreme overdose. However, if you combine even a moderate dose of benzodiazepams with alcohol, it's extremely toxic.

Bipolar disorder is hard to diagnose. A lot of people go undiagnosed with this condition so it wouldn't suprise me at all if he is bipolar.

Thanks for the consult, but what the hell does that have to do with him spiting on someone??? You have to be bipolar to do that? The NFL is full of ding-dongs who are millionaires. If his act was intentional, he just coninues his legacy as a dork.
There was a judge caught here a couple of days ago jerking off under his bench during court...care to speculate what's going on in his skull?

 

[smarta5150]

2 previous "spitters" and background.

Results from spitting - FINES Only.

Some background.

Bill Romanowski:

Romanowski has been involved in numerous altercations with both teammates and opponents. In 1989, while with the 49ers, he brawled with offensive tackle Harris Barton after Barton had taken exception to a hit Romanowski had made on wide receiver Jerry Rice during a practice session. In 1995, while with the Eagles, he was ejected from a game — and subsequently fined $4,500 — for kicking Arizona Cardinals running back Larry Centers in the head. Three more incidents occurred during the 1997 season while he played for the Broncos: In the first, he was fined $20,000 after his hit on then-Carolina Panthers quarterback Kerry Collins in a preseason game resulted in Collins sustaining a broken jaw; in the second, Romanowski spat in the face of 49ers wide receiver J.J. Stokes in a regular-season game played in December on a Monday night in response to Stokes' taunting; and in the third — in the AFC Championship game — Romanowski taunted Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Kordell Stewart following an interception Stewart had thrown in the third quarter of the game, won by Denver. Two years later, while still with the Broncos, he was fined a total of $42,500 for three illegal hits plus a punch thrown at Kansas City Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez, and was also fined an undisclosed amount for throwing a football at Bryan Cox of the New York Jets, the ball hitting him in the crotch area.

n August of 2000, Romanowski was indicted by a grand jury in Denver for allegedly obtaining phentermine, a diet drug with stimulant properties, under false pretenses; he was later acquitted of this charge, but during the trial he made statements to the media many regarded as being racially insensitive. Another on-the-field incident, resulting in a $7,500 fine, followed in 2001. He was also linked to drug use in the book Game of Shadows.

Sean Taylor:

October 27, 2004: Arrested for DUI

On October 27, 2004, Taylor was arrested at 2:45am for driving under the influence of alcohol following a birthday party for former Commanders' receiver Rod Gardner. A Fairfax County, Virginia judge later dropped the charges in January, 2005 after viewing a videotape of Taylor's roadside sobriety tests that, according to the judge, failed to demonstrate obvious intoxication. Taylor was, however, convicted for refusing to take a blood alcohol test requested of him by a Virginia state police officer, though this conviction is under appeal by Taylor.

[edit] Missing 2005 Commanders mini-camp

In May, 2005, Taylor, seeking a new contract with the Commanders, was the only Commander who refused to appear for a Commanders' training mini-camp. Commanders coach Joe Gibbs acknowledged that the Commanders had had no contact with Taylor since he returned to Miami in January, 2005, and that he had failed to return repeated phone calls to him by Gibbs and other Commanders' coaching staff. Despite his legal and other difficulties, though, Gibbs has defended the drafting of Taylor, calling the preparation that went into his selection one of the "most researched things in the history of sports."

Taylor's agent is fellow University of Miami alumnus Drew Rosenhaus, widely considered one of the most aggressive agents currently representing NFL players. Rosenhaus currently is representing Taylor in his efforts to renegotiate his existing Commanders' contract.

[edit] June 4, 2005: Arrested for armed assault

Events:

* On June 3, 2005, Taylor was named publicly as a "person of interest" by Miami-Dade County police in regard to a Miami assault case involving firearms, and was being sought for questioning. "We need to speak to him, we don't know if he's a victim, witness or suspect," Miami-Dade police spokesman Mary Walters said. Taylor allegedly was present at, and possibly involved in, an incident on June 1, 2005 in Miami, in which bullets allegedly were fired into a stolen vehicle.

* On June 5, 2005, ESPN and The Miami Herald both reported that Taylor, accompanied by his lawyer, surrendered to Miami-Dade police at approximately 10pm ET on June 4 at Miami's Cutler Ridge district police station, where he was transported to Miami's Turner Guilford Knight correctional facility. He was charged with aggravated assault with a firearm, a felony, and misdemeanor battery.

* On June 5, Miami-Dade police issued a statement indicating that Taylor had been arrested for aggravated assault with a firearm (a felony) and battery (a misdemeanor), for allegedly pointing a gun at a person over a dispute over two ATVs that Taylor claimed were stolen. Taylor then allegedly left the scene, but returned shortly and punched one person.

* The Associated Press reported on June 5 that Taylor was held in detention at Miami's Turner Gilford Knight correctional facility and released the evening of June 4 after posting bond of $16,500. The Miami-Dade County Clerk's Office announced that Taylor would soon be officially arraigned on the charges.

* The Washington Post reported on March 3, 2006 that Taylor's trial has been postponed until April 10, 2006. Days before that date, the trial was moved back once more, this time by a week, because of conflicts with Passover and Easter celebrations.

 

[jrumann59]

Because we have a new commish? Because we're talking about Owens, a guy with a long history of unsportsmanlike behavior?

For celebrations he has no history of spitting or hitting players after the whistle. The only thing has done is throw teammates under the proverbial bus. His transgressions warrant only a fine because there is no evidence to the maliciousness of the incident in question.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Romanowski taunted Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Kordell Stewart following an interception Stewart had thrown in the third quarter of the game, won by Denver.

That's some sort of transgression?



The entire city of Pittsburgh did it for about five years.

 

[smarta5150]

That's some sort of transgression?



The entire city of Pittsburgh did it for about five years.

You mispquoted me there

 

[LaTunaNostra]

You mispquoted me there

Sorry.

It's just that memory plays tricks on ya.

As I recall him, Romonowski had a history much too interesting for a Kordell taunt to make it to his rap sheet.

But yesterday's villains are today's regular Joes I guess.

 

[smarta5150]

Sorry.

It's just that memory plays tricks on ya.

As I recall him, Romonowski had a history much too interesting for a Kordell taunt to make it to his rap sheet.

But yesterday's villains are today's regular Joes I guess.

Ah nevermind I know what you mean.

Just wanted to show that 1 person that TOs "resume" isnt nearly as long as those other 2 - criminally speaking and unsporsman-like.

Oh well. Time will only tell.

 

[BigDFan5]

TO wont be suspended, even if the NFl tried to suspend him he would appeal and would play against Philly, then he could drop the appeal and sit against detroit

 

[bbuck822]

Hall is a cry baby who got showed up on Saturday. I don't condone TO spitting on anyone, but Hall's whinning about "fining TO won't hurt him because he makes too much money" is just weak. Act like a man and not like a sissy. I know Hall showed a lot by not retaliating physically during the game but at least try to shut down the guy that spit on you. TO burned him more than once! That should be the end of it. Now Hall is lobbying for a suspension. Please! Give me a break!

 

[DBoys]

Hall is a cry baby who got showed up on Saturday. I don't condone TO spitting on anyone, but Hall's whinning about "fining TO won't hurt him because he makes too much money" is just weak. Act like a man and not like a sissy. I know Hall showed a lot by not retaliating physically during the game but at least try to shut down the guy that spit on you. TO burned him more than once! That should be the end of it. Now Hall is lobbying for a suspension. Please! Give me a break!

Hall did retaliate with about 6 cheap shots.

 

[adamknite]

Hall is a cry baby who got showed up on Saturday. I don't condone TO spitting on anyone, but Hall's whinning about "fining TO won't hurt him because he makes too much money" is just weak. Act like a man and not like a sissy. I know Hall showed a lot by not retaliating physically during the game but at least try to shut down the guy that spit on you. TO burned him more than once! That should be the end of it. Now Hall is lobbying for a suspension. Please! Give me a break!

I believe there's already a huge merged thread on this subject, however I want to say it'd be a BS move if the league suspends Owens. This isn't the first time somebody has spit on another player and it won't be the last, he deserves a fine, period.... nothing else.

 

[DBoys]

They may not have any film on the incident in which case they have no visual evidence to determine the fine amount.

If video footage existed we would of seen it by now.

My guess nothing happens.

 

[TRUTH87]

I"m with ya' Dboyz, I believe there is not such video of the incident.

 

[Aikbach]

In a court of law I don't know if beyond TO's NFL Network statement there is any proof to support a case, all hearsay.

What type of spitting was it? Intentional or incidental? Was it provoked? Did Hall retaliate? All of these questions have not been asked by the media or addressed.

 

[tyke1doe]

People need to relax, Hall has talking alot of trash to TO. In love and war all is fair. If TO hit Hall he would get a penalty maybe kicked out, so what's the next worst thing you can do to someone, spit on them. This action clearly got Hall out of his game, if Hall would have retailated, 2nd man always gets caught. So what TO did actually was very smart. What he did was clearly not good and I would explain to any kids watching that what TO did was wrong. Has TO ever been arrested, DWI, spouse abuse, guns, etc. Not a single problem off the field. Terrell has plans for TO, it's all exposure and marketing. ESPN feeds off it to increase advertising revenues. TO has done nothing out of the ordinary this year, Mora's comments are 10x worse than anything TO has said since he's been in Dallas. TO produces on the field, plays hurt. Drops happen to the best of them. TO gets more passes thrown his way thus his drops will be higher. Look at all the other things that's happened in the league, Cinncy and SD for example. Look at other players who are sitting out not wanting to risk injury. If TO was hurt, you think he would sit out vs. Philly. Stop hating on TO. Without him, the cowboys would not win the NFC East.

Wow.

Here goes the "comparing small trangression with bigger transgressions" minimization.

That's the standard trump card used to justify bad behavior.

I guess because TO didn't kill anyone we should make light of his actions.

 

[Slammin Bran 23]

Big fine- $25,000 at least. Cowboys say this is unnacceptable and if it happens again he is suspended. THAT being said- the way Hall keeps mouthing off it REALLY does not bother me that much. The guy, frankly, kind of deserves it. He is at BEST a good cb, certainly NOT a pro bowl player- despite all his talking. If you cannot back up your mouth, you oughta shut up- or someone will SHUT you up.

Do they have proof?

I know he said he did it, but they still need to make sure he did.

 

[TonyTone]

I am sure the Fecals trolls will bring this up on 7 out of 10 posts.