T.O. Spitting on Hall *** MERGED THREAD ***

[notherbob]

I don't believe spitting has any place in football, if for no other reason than it shows the player is out of control and each player is mandated to remain in control of their actions at all times. It's a game between two athletic teams, not a gang fight between two gangs or a war between two armies, though it often comes close to both, there are rules to contain the violence and they're there for good reason.

Spitting is a childish rage reaction as well as a deliberate insult of the most intensive kind and is intended both to insult and provoke a responding rage reaction. Grown men who indulge in it do so out of a desperate frustration and in a display of hateful, usually impotent, rage.

It is not an honorable action at any level and is even considered assault in law.

Any professional athlete who allows himself to sink to that level really needs to change his ways or go find something else to do.

Just my opinion.

 

[cowfan]

Instead of spitting, couldn't T.Owens tell Hall he's scored twice or I'm making you look like a junior high player. Hall talks to much, but so does 81. He should be suspended for one game. It's another check in the TO want be back column.

 

[Bleu Star]

Any professional athlete who allows himself to sink to that level really needs to change his ways or go find something else to do.

Just my opinion.

I think you'll find 99.9 pct agreement here that spitting in someone's face is a despicable act. It's when the rest of the comments come out that I begin to disagree. I would rather TO continue what he has been doing on the field and help us win a Superbowl before considering "finding something else to do".

 

[burmafrd]

Why is there so much more OUTRAGE over TO spitting then Haynesworth trying to turn Gurodes face into dogfood?

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Owens and his ilk are classless, clueless P'sOS.

The same people who will support him in this are the same exact whine babies that cry at each media diss of the Cowboys.

Which side of this you come in on will explain alot about your own character, as if it's not already self evident.

Owen's is the one that is less of a man for this, as well as anyone that agrees with him.

Go away Owens, and take your kind with ya. It's embarrassing you're a Cowboy.

Perfectly expressed, Jack.

 

[jay cee]

Owens and his ilk are classless, clueless P'sOS.

The same people who will support him in this are the same exact whine babies that cry at each media diss of the Cowboys.

Which side of this you come in on will explain alot about your own character, as if it's not already self evident.

Owen's is the one that is less of a man for this, as well as anyone that agrees with him.

Go away Owens, and take your kind with ya. It's embarrassing you're a Cowboy.

Very well said Jack. I am in full agreement with you, Staghunter and Dave in NC on this one.

 

[daboyzareback]

I'm still waiting on vid.

 

[notherbob]

What kind of punishment did Sean Taylor get for his spitting incident? Was that strictly a fine or was there a one game suspension or what? Damn short term memory loss.

I'm hoping this idiot didn't expose himself to the possibility of being suspended for the Eagles game.

 

[Bleu Star]

Perfectly expressed, Jack.

Yep with this mindset we'll soon be rooting for a bunch of choir boys and a 2-14 record very soon. Some people would be well served to make sure their own houses are in order before tossing stones at the houses of anyone else. I find it very hard to believe every one of those constantly bashing TO have never done one thing wrong. As a matter of fact I would venture to say some have probably done wrong on more than one occasion. Yet they so easily toss stones across the vast WWW. Please don't try to convince me otherwise. I am just as deeply rooted in that belief as LTN is in her belief concerning TO. Before you toss stones...

ZZZ

 

[khiladi]

The play actually happened in the beginning of the game. It is obvious that TO stayed well within the game, while Hall got smoked. Hall proceeded to get two unsportsmanlike conduct penalties the rest of the game.

It is funny that the first thing Hall does to save face is rant about TO spitting when interviewed about his performance.

 

[jay cee]

And he had the good grace to apologize to Hall privately and, during the post-game, publicly. Can't ask for much more than that. (Unless you're a hater )

Yes you can. You can ask that he not do such stupid things in the 1st place.

 

[Bleu Star]

It is funny that the first thing Hall does to save face is rant about TO spitting when interviewed about his performance.

It's simply because he's a PAB that was laid on a plate and buttered by TO last night. It was his last hoorah to cry to mommy media.

 

[Woods]

Why is there so much more OUTRAGE over TO spitting then Haynesworth trying to turn Gurodes face into dogfood?

The thing is, I don't regard any of these football players as role models.

When I was young, they weren't my role models, and they aren't role models for my kids.

However, that said, you can't have sports degenerate into . . . .
basketball

IMO, TO should be fined for his actions (which he was). And he should be given a warning that if he does it again (however much he apologizes) he will get a suspension.

That said, the guy who hit Gurode in the back of the helmet (Hartwell?) should also be fined. That player intented direct harm on Gurode. I'll be curious to see if that happens.

 

[Vtwin]

Hmmmm.....

An illegal crackback block, which can cause serious, career threatening injury, will get you a fifteen yard penalty.

Spitting on an opponet will get you a 25 g fine and maybe a suspension.

Hmmmm.....

Not saying I condone spitting. It is a classless act that has no place in the game.

How about a little perspective though.

Hypothetical question;

You HAVE to choose between Hall and Owens to add to your team. Your choice must be made on the quailty of character rather then quality of performance or need.

Who do you take?

 

[Bleu Star]

Yes you can. You can ask that he not do such stupid things in the 1st place.

The reality is that he will probably to continue to do stupid thing here and stupid thing there. He will also continue to perform on the field and may help get us to a Superbowl. You can either live with it, which some have clearly done, or hop right onto the TO bashing bandwagon with the rest of them. The wheels are about to fall off of that thing.

 

[jay cee]

Why is there so much more OUTRAGE over TO spitting then Haynesworth trying to turn Gurodes face into dogfood?

Revisionist history alert. There were many people on this board calling for Haynesworth to be arrested.

 

[Unforgiven]

So much for our great win. Overshadowed.

 

[burmafrd]

I flat out say that there was less on this board about Haynesworth then there is about TO. Spitting in someones face should not come close to what Haynesworth tried to do.

 

[khiladi]

TO looked incredibly PO'd after the game when he was sitting with the NFL broadcasters. It seems that it was there that he found out Hall actually cried to the media about the alleged spitting. He must have thought to himself what a punk, after most likely going over to Hall after the game and apologizing.

 

[Chuck 54]

Big fine- $25,000 at least. Cowboys say this is unnacceptable and if it happens again he is suspended. THAT being said- the way Hall keeps mouthing off it REALLY does not bother me that much. The guy, frankly, kind of deserves it. He is at BEST a good cb, certainly NOT a pro bowl player- despite all his talking. If you cannot back up your mouth, you oughta shut up- or someone will SHUT you up.

You guys who keep defending this and blaming it on Hall mouthing off are "looking" like clowns...If you're paying attention, the spitting occured very early in the game before the first punt, so it's simply ignorant to watch the entire game and base the spitting on Hall's behavior...I would assume he spent the rest of the game with his comments and physicality amped up a notch because of the spitting incident in the first quarter.

Defend T.O. for having a good game...say he owned Hall on the field, but don't pretend that T.O. just couldn't take any more...this incident happened very early in the game for whatever reason...period.