T.O. Was Not The Problem

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Hey guys I have been listening to these idotic suppose to be football analysts and have been reading some threads here and I just had to make my point and then move on. First of all I'm a big Cowboy fan and I take pride in that. Second, I'm kind of ashamed of how some of our fans have suddenly forgot. You know if I have to hear the word chemistry anymore I'm going to choke myself. I guess the new flavor is the word chemistry and teams are using this instead of having a talented receiver who might talk some **** once and a while. I'm a missing something here. I have heard of all the excuses from T.O. stunting Romo's growth to T.O. being blamed for the damn economy and about everything else in between.

Have we forgotten that this is professional football that these guys are playing? Football players are a different breed and we are expecting them to all of a sudden turn it down a couple of notches. How many times do we disagree with a co-worker and disagree with our bosses in private because some don't have the balls to stand up? **** people ***** all the time about something going on with their job. This is not run right, that isn't ran right, this person is getting all the hype or that person is getting all the hype. If I was the boss I would do it this way or that way. That person over there doesn't know what they are doing or this person over here doesn't know what they are doing. Are you all catching my drift here? So how many of the co-workers whether they agree or not are really affected or care to the point to where they stop being productive with their own job. Not too many huh, because they have to make a living. Well people why do you think that it is any different in the professional sports world?

Hell Dallas was winning championships in the 90's with guys who acted up worst than T.O. They were very "talented" with big egos who talked a lot of trash and demanded the spotlight but you know what, they won. They didn't just win, they kicked ***. Was Aikman's growth stunted because of these guys? Hell no, and you know Troy didn't approve of the three-man circus that was going on as long as they played. Troy mad sure that he was prepared and he expected the same out of his guys.

The other factor is that Jimmy Johnson knew how to deal with guys with big egos. He said he had a set of rules for his regular players and a different set of rules for his stars. Jimmy commanded the locker room, he had the respect of his players at all times. They loved to play for Jimmy because to be honest Jimmy had a big ego and loved to talk just as much **** as his players. He was crazy, but he always had his guys back and they had his whether they liked him or not or whether he had to punish them or not.

Those were the good ol days and that is where we need to get back to. Jerry, if you read these blogs, get Jimmy back out of the booth, swallow your pride and get T.O. back, and tell Romo to start doing his homework and grow some balls. Get that cockiness back that made everybody hate Dallas and start kicking some *** again.
 

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Hell Dallas was winning championships in the 90's with guys who acted up worst than T.O. They were very "talented" with big egos who talked a lot of trash and demanded the spotlight but you know what, they won. They didn't just win, they kicked ***.

But that Cowboys team didn't have discord in the lockerroom. They respected each other and even liked each other. These days, this team has been too immature with no leaders. Only egos, or should I say one major EGO was the leading factor in our demise. Just too much damn drama in Dallas the past 3 seasons. And Team Obliterator was the catalyst.
 

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T.O. most certainly was the problem. The media has him as a marked man and he can't pass gas w/out someone knowing about it and complaining about it. But, he brought it all on himself with his arrogance and disrepect he showed in San Fran and Philly. Any team looking to sign him has to realize that he won't shut his mouth and his play on the field doesn't make up for the major disruption he causes just by having him on the team. The value isn't there and he will realize too late that by saying anything, he is giving the media the ammo it needs to create controversy.
 

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scoutschoice;2677327 said:
Hell Dallas was winning championships in the 90's with guys who acted up worst than T.O. They were very "talented" with big egos who talked a lot of trash and demanded the spotlight but you know what, they won. They didn't just win, they kicked ***. Was Aikman's growth stunted because of these guys? Hell no, and you know Troy didn't approve of the three-man circus that was going on as long as they played. Troy mad sure that he was prepared and he expected the same out of his guys.

The other factor is that Jimmy Johnson knew how to deal with guys with big egos. He said he had a set of rules for his regular players and a different set of rules for his stars. Jimmy commanded the locker room, he had the respect of his players at all times. They loved to play for Jimmy because to be honest Jimmy had a big ego and loved to talk just as much **** as his players. He was crazy, but he always had his guys back and they had his whether they liked him or not or whether he had to punish them or not.

Those were the good ol days and that is where we need to get back to. Jerry, if you read these blogs, get Jimmy back out of the booth, swallow your pride and get T.O. back, and tell Romo to start doing his homework and grow some balls. Get that cockiness back that made everybody hate Dallas and start kicking some *** again.

Romo isnt Aikman, Owens is not Irvin and Barber isnt Emmitt Smith. And Wade Phillips is nowhere close to Jimmy Johnson.

Know what all those had in common? ONLY GOAL= WINNING
 

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Perhaps not THE problem, but certainly a problem....and it's obvious at this point, he wasn't an answer either.
 

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scoutschoice;2677327 said:
Hey guys I have been listening to these idotic suppose to be football analysts and have been reading some threads here and I just had to make my point and then move on. First of all I'm a big Cowboy fan and I take pride in that. Second, I'm kind of ashamed of how some of our fans have suddenly forgot. You know if I have to hear the word chemistry anymore I'm going to choke myself. I guess the new flavor is the word chemistry and teams are using this instead of having a talented receiver who might talk some **** once and a while. I'm a missing something here. I have heard of all the excuses from T.O. stunting Romo's growth to T.O. being blamed for the damn economy and about everything else in between.

Have we forgotten that this is professional football that these guys are playing? Football players are a different breed and we are expecting them to all of a sudden turn it down a couple of notches. How many times do we disagree with a co-worker and disagree with our bosses in private because some don't have the balls to stand up? **** people ***** all the time about something going on with their job. This is not run right, that isn't ran right, this person is getting all the hype or that person is getting all the hype. If I was the boss I would do it this way or that way. That person over there doesn't know what they are doing or this person over here doesn't know what they are doing. Are you all catching my drift here? So how many of the co-workers whether they agree or not are really affected or care to the point to where they stop being productive with their own job. Not too many huh, because they have to make a living. Well people why do you think that it is any different in the professional sports world?

Hell Dallas was winning championships in the 90's with guys who acted up worst than T.O. They were very "talented" with big egos who talked a lot of trash and demanded the spotlight but you know what, they won. They didn't just win, they kicked ***. Was Aikman's growth stunted because of these guys? Hell no, and you know Troy didn't approve of the three-man circus that was going on as long as they played. Troy mad sure that he was prepared and he expected the same out of his guys.

The other factor is that Jimmy Johnson knew how to deal with guys with big egos. He said he had a set of rules for his regular players and a different set of rules for his stars. Jimmy commanded the locker room, he had the respect of his players at all times. They loved to play for Jimmy because to be honest Jimmy had a big ego and loved to talk just as much **** as his players. He was crazy, but he always had his guys back and they had his whether they liked him or not or whether he had to punish them or not.

Those were the good ol days and that is where we need to get back to. Jerry, if you read these blogs, get Jimmy back out of the booth, swallow your pride and get T.O. back, and tell Romo to start doing his homework and grow some balls. Get that cockiness back that made everybody hate Dallas and start kicking some *** again.

For what it's worth, Jerry Jones agreed with you up until the other day. Jerry cut him for his own reasons whatever they were.

Personally, I'm glad he's gone and Tank, Roy and Pack-person, too. It's easier to breathe today than it was a week ago but there's still a few more to go.

Is Jerry really wising up or what's going on here?
 

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In case you have not noticed three organizations grew tired of his act and despite all his talent sent on him on his merry way. Maybe just mabe they no more than you.

I do not know how much more obvious it can be. The fans did not release TO, the people that make football decisions for a living did. The people who need big time players did.
 

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What a lot of people are forgetting about TO is not the fact that he was a "problem", but the fact that his play was diminishing.

That's the biggest deal to me. He's 35 and not getting any younger and couldn't get off the line last year. He had 8 games where averaging 40yds per game. He wouldn't go up for balls, ran poor routes, dropped balls, and still acted selfish.

That's the "problem". He's getting long in the tooth, and for all the media attention he brings it just wasn't worth it.

He still acted like he was that receiver with his mouth, but his body couldn't deliver!
 

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Aven8;2677418 said:
What a lot of people are forgetting about TO is not the fact that he was a "problem", but the fact that his play was diminishing.
Or not. His production diminished the same amount as Witten's production, and both of them are the result of Tony missing time and being injured when he was playing.
 

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I think the true 'problem' with this team is leadership.

And not just from Tony Romo.

Not just from Wade Phillips.

Not just from Jerry Jones.

But from all of them - and many others.

Terrell Owens was sent packing because he's a high-maintenance player who speaks his mind - often more than he should.

But he was sent packing because this organization lacks the leadership to deal with someone like him.

He's the same person they signed a few years ago. If anything his behavior improved.

But the current Cowboys organization does not have the leadership it takes to deal with a player like Owens.

So their misguided solution? Don't fix the leadership problem, send the talent packing instead.
 

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FoldedSpace;2677375 said:
Perhaps not THE problem, but certainly a problem....and it's obvious at this point, he wasn't an answer either.

Thank you.

Instead of looking to define "problems," maybe we need to look for "solutions."

Having T.O. here was not the answer. We're going to need more solutions, but he wasn't one of them.

And, hence, he's gone as our Pacman, Tank, Roy Williams and others who weren't part of the answer.

If Wade and Jason don't get it right, they're going to be gone too, which will prove they weren't part of the answer either.
 

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Fletch;2677342 said:
But that Cowboys team didn't have discord in the lockerroom. They respected each other and even liked each other. These days, this team has been too immature with no leaders. Only egos, or should I say one major EGO was the leading factor in our demise. Just too much damn drama in Dallas the past 3 seasons. And Team Obliterator was the catalyst.
This post here should of closed this thread. Dead on accurate and to the point.
 

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tyke1doe;2677447 said:
Thank you.

Instead of looking to define "problems," maybe we need to look for "solutions."

Having T.O. here was not the answer. We're going to need more solutions, but he wasn't one of them.

And, hence, he's gone as our Pacman, Tank, Roy Williams and others who weren't part of the answer.

If Wade and Jason don't get it right, they're going to be gone too, which will prove they weren't part of the answer either.
Oh, I see. Since he didn't bring us a playoff win in 3 years, he must not be the solution. Well, I guess Tony should go to, since he's CLEARLY not the solution.
 

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scoutschoice;2677327 said:
Hey guys I have been listening to these idotic suppose to be football analysts and have been reading some threads here and I just had to make my point and then move on. First of all I'm a big Cowboy fan and I take pride in that. Second, I'm kind of ashamed of how some of our fans have suddenly forgot. You know if I have to hear the word chemistry anymore I'm going to choke myself. I guess the new flavor is the word chemistry and teams are using this instead of having a talented receiver who might talk some **** once and a while. I'm a missing something here. I have heard of all the excuses from T.O. stunting Romo's growth to T.O. being blamed for the damn economy and about everything else in between.

Have we forgotten that this is professional football that these guys are playing? Football players are a different breed and we are expecting them to all of a sudden turn it down a couple of notches. How many times do we disagree with a co-worker and disagree with our bosses in private because some don't have the balls to stand up? **** people ***** all the time about something going on with their job. This is not run right, that isn't ran right, this person is getting all the hype or that person is getting all the hype. If I was the boss I would do it this way or that way. That person over there doesn't know what they are doing or this person over here doesn't know what they are doing. Are you all catching my drift here? So how many of the co-workers whether they agree or not are really affected or care to the point to where they stop being productive with their own job. Not too many huh, because they have to make a living. Well people why do you think that it is any different in the professional sports world?

Hell Dallas was winning championships in the 90's with guys who acted up worst than T.O. They were very "talented" with big egos who talked a lot of trash and demanded the spotlight but you know what, they won. They didn't just win, they kicked ***. Was Aikman's growth stunted because of these guys? Hell no, and you know Troy didn't approve of the three-man circus that was going on as long as they played. Troy mad sure that he was prepared and he expected the same out of his guys.

The other factor is that Jimmy Johnson knew how to deal with guys with big egos. He said he had a set of rules for his regular players and a different set of rules for his stars. Jimmy commanded the locker room, he had the respect of his players at all times. They loved to play for Jimmy because to be honest Jimmy had a big ego and loved to talk just as much **** as his players. He was crazy, but he always had his guys back and they had his whether they liked him or not or whether he had to punish them or not.

Those were the good ol days and that is where we need to get back to. Jerry, if you read these blogs, get Jimmy back out of the booth, swallow your pride and get T.O. back, and tell Romo to start doing his homework and grow some balls. Get that cockiness back that made everybody hate Dallas and start kicking some *** again.

Maybe you should ask Bill Belichek and his Patriots, or the Steelers and their orginization for the past 15 years, or Giants for the past few, what chemistry means. None of those teams had that one guy who thought they were so good that they were above the rest of the team. I do not believe any of those three SB teams had the big three like we did, but what they dids have was a bunch of guys with mediocre talent (some more, some less) who just played as a team and wanted to win. They had the coaching staff who made them believe they could win as a team.

TO does not equal team, but we sure designed our season to him as if he were the team. On top of that, he did not come out speaking like a team player. Too much distraction, about time we got rid of him.

Good luck on one of those "several teams" interested in him as Rosenhaus says there are.

Wonder how many team names there are for Oakland Raiders? :huh:
 

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theogt;2677463 said:
Oh, I see. Since he didn't bring us a playoff win in 3 years, he must not be the solution. Well, I guess Tony should go to, since he's CLEARLY not the solution.
then goes the other 51 players right? :rolleyes:
 
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