T.O. Was Not The Problem

[5Stars]

I think the true 'problem' with this team is leadership.

And not just from Tony Romo.

Not just from Wade Phillips.

Not just from Jerry Jones.

But from all of them - and many others.

Terrell Owens was sent packing because he's a high-maintenance player who speaks his mind - often more than he should.

But he was sent packing because this organization lacks the leadership to deal with someone like him.

He's the same person they signed a few years ago. If anything his behavior improved.

But the current Cowboys organization does not have the leadership it takes to deal with a player like Owens.

So their misguided solution? Don't fix the leadership problem, send the talent packing instead.

49'ers - no leadership

eagles - no leadership

Cowboys - no leadershiop

future team - no leadership

 

[CF74]

Of course not. But he makes a great scapegoat.

You don't hear Romo sticking up for him do you? In the end that's all that matters. Romo is the leader of the offense now and I'm willing to wager $100 bucks we start winning again. (Major injuries to offense breaks the deal.)

TO may have been right 60% of the time when it comes to play calling, (Which is what he bucked,) but his constant *****ing and undermining of the authority around here destroyed the production of the offense; not to mention the joy of the game. These kids are gonna start having fun again and they are gonna kick some major *** now.

10-6 or better. Wanna bet on it???

 

[CF74]

TO didn't throw 3INTs vs Pittsburgh.
TO didn't throw 2INTs vs Baltimore
TO didn't throw an INT vs Philadelphia
TO didn't lose a fumble vs Pittsburgh
TO didn't lose 2 fumbles vs Philadelphia
TO didn't get sacked 3 times vs Pittsburgh
TO didn't get sacked 4 times vs NYGiants
TO didn't get sacked 2 times vs Baltimore
TO didn't get sacked 3 times vs Philadelphia
TO didn't fail to gain OVER 100yds rushing in each of the last 4 games.
TO didn't give up a 77yd rushing TD vs Baltimore
TO didn't give up an 82yd rushing TD vs Baltimore
TO didn't fumble and have it returned 73yds for a TD vs Philadelphia
TO didn't fumble and have it returned 96yds for a TD vs Philadelphia

And TO is a non-factor in big games or when we are behind.

 

[EPL0c0]

TO is no longer a part of the team. So whether he was or wasn't a problem is irrelevant. He's gone, time to get over it and focus on the current players on the team.


JMO

My point exactly...that's why I mention:

TO didn't throw 3INTs vs Pittsburgh.
TO didn't throw 2INTs vs Baltimore
TO didn't throw an INT vs Philadelphia
TO didn't lose a fumble vs Pittsburgh
TO didn't lose 2 fumbles vs Philadelphia
TO didn't get sacked 3 times vs Pittsburgh
TO didn't get sacked 4 times vs NYGiants
TO didn't get sacked 2 times vs Baltimore
TO didn't get sacked 3 times vs Philadelphia
TO didn't fail to gain OVER 100yds rushing in each of the last 4 games.
TO didn't give up a 77yd rushing TD vs Baltimore
TO didn't give up an 82yd rushing TD vs Baltimore
TO didn't fumble and have it returned 73yds for a TD vs Philadelphia
TO didn't fumble and have it returned 96yds for a TD vs Philadelphia

 

[5Stars]

My point exactly...that's why I mention:

TO didn't throw 3INTs vs Pittsburgh.
TO didn't throw 2INTs vs Baltimore
TO didn't throw an INT vs Philadelphia
TO didn't lose a fumble vs Pittsburgh
TO didn't lose 2 fumbles vs Philadelphia
TO didn't get sacked 3 times vs Pittsburgh
TO didn't get sacked 4 times vs NYGiants
TO didn't get sacked 2 times vs Baltimore
TO didn't get sacked 3 times vs Philadelphia
TO didn't fail to gain OVER 100yds rushing in each of the last 4 games.
TO didn't give up a 77yd rushing TD vs Baltimore
TO didn't give up an 82yd rushing TD vs Baltimore
TO didn't fumble and have it returned 73yds for a TD vs Philadelphia
TO didn't fumble and have it returned 96yds for a TD vs Philadelphia

So...what did TO do? The "team" still is what it is.

 

[khiladi]

So Wade is closer to Jimmy than Garrett is to the guy he learned from? That's rich

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What did Garrett learn from Jimmy? He couldn't run a disciplined offense and couldn't reign in his QB. Jimmy was in the face of his players, while Garret sits on the bench looking at pictures of his failed plays with Tony Romo...

Of course it is. But it's probably your contention that Garrett's play-calling is the cause for the economic crisis too. Agendas are funny like that.

When people have no argument, they resort to exxagerated hyperbole. And your right, I have an agenda against Garrett, just like you have an agenda against TO... Doesn't bother me one bit..

 

[khiladi]

When was TO injured? Oh wait he wasn't.

Witten had broken ribs, missed a game and played through what would keep most people bed ridden.

Whats Owens excuse?

Your right, he was playing. And Witten was making spectacular grabs even while hurt, yet his production still dropped. It wasn't like Witten was hurt to the extent his production should have dropped that much.

And Crayton's production dropped as well...

But I guess when you need to make excuses for the overall offense, you gotta blame the offensive line and Tony Romo's injury and so on and so forth, but for TOs drop in production, you don't afford him that...

 

[mmillman]

Have you played sports? If a team doesn't get along it doesn't play well with few exceptions.

You can overlook some of Owens' stuff if he is the player he was 6 years ago. He will be 36 this season and is noticeably slipping. Good riddance to the malignant one.

 

[peplaw06]

What did Garrett learn from Jimmy? He couldn't run a disciplined offense and couldn't reign in his QB. Jimmy was in the face of his players, while Garret sits on the bench looking at pictures of his failed plays with Tony Romo...

Was talking about Garrett and Norv... you made the parallel that no one on this team is up to par with their counterpart from the 90s teams and said that garrett was the farthest from his counterpart. Which is ridiculous. Wade and Jimmy are polar opposites.

When people have no argument, they resort to exxagerated hyperbole. And your right, I have an agenda against Garrett, just like you have an agenda against TO... Doesn't bother me one bit..

It doesn't need arguing. It's exagerated hyperbole by you to suggest that play-calling was the reason Romo broke a pinky.

And where on earth did you get the idea that I had an agenda against TO...? Are you off your meds?

 

[DFWJC]

True...he was not THE problem. But he most certainly was a serious problem.

 

[khiladi]

Was talking about Garrett and Norv... you made the parallel that no one on this team is up to par with their counterpart from the 90s teams and said that garrett was the farthest from his counterpart. Which is ridiculous. Wade and Jimmy are polar opposites.

Oh, I know what parallel I made. The original contention was that Owens was not Irvin, Barber is not Emmit, and Romo is not Aikman. COnsidering the Garrett-homer said this, I responded saying Garrett is not Norv.

You see the trend here... And Jason Garrett is not even close to Norv Turner.. In fact, he's farther from Norv than any of these guys are from their respective peers.

That is my contention and my contention still stands. ANd I further stated that Wade is closer to Jimmy than Garrett is to Norv. Wade is way more capable then Garrett is.

It doesn't need arguing. It's exagerated hyperbole by you to suggest that play-calling was the reason Romo broke a pinky.

And where on earth did you get the idea that I had an agenda against TO...? Are you off your meds

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No, it isn't. That last drive, they were deep in their own territory and Garrett is looking down-field while the offensive line couldn't sustain a block. They went 3 and out. Even prior to that, the offense was inept and it was only because of some miraculous 70 yard TD by Barber, where he skipped along the sidelines on a busted play by the Cardinals. It is not exxagerated hyperbole. Romo was getting pummelled and Garrett didn't do anything to adjust.

Like I said, I'm not going to apologize for my Garrett agenda. I think he's the biggest waste of money since Bruce Coslett.

 

[peplaw06]

Oh, I know what parallel I made. The original contention was that Owens was not Irvin, Barber is not Emmit, and Romo is not Aikman. COnsidering the Garrett-homer said this, I responded saying Garrett is not Norv.

That is my contention and my contention still stands. ANd I further stated that Wade is closer to Jimmy than Garrett is to Norv. Wade is way more capable then Garrett is.

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No, it isn't. That last drive, they were deep in their own territory and Garrett is looking down-field while the offensive line couldn't sustain a block. They went 3 and out. Even prior to that, the offense was inept and it was only because of some miraculous 70 yard TD by Barber, where he skipped along the sidelines on a busted play by the Cardinals. It is not exxagerated hyperbole. Romo was getting pummelled and Garrett didn't do anything to adjust.

Like I said, I'm not going to apologize for my Garrett agenda. I think he's the biggest waste of money since Bruce Coslett.

I'm not wasting my time. You've admitted you have an agenda.... that explains the cuckoo for cocoa puffs theory you have on all fronts here. Not even worth it.

 

[EPL0c0]

So...what did TO do? The "team" still is what it is.

The point you're missing is that all of those lead to three big losses in December which kept the Cowboys out of the playoffs.

In those cases, Terrell Owens had nothing to do with the interceptions, fumbles, runs or defensive blown plays.

The idea that this team will be better off without Terrell Owens isn't exactly right because there were problems on offense, defense and special teams that kept Dallas down. I mean you could easily replace "Owens" with "Crayton" and it doesn't matter because the problems this team has/had were often independent of what Owens was/wasn't doing.

My hope is to point out that this team has a lot of work to do this off-season and in the up-coming season as well. Because if those numbers are similar next December, who gets blamed then? ...answer is: same people that should get the blame this year for those numbers.

 

[BrassCowboy]

lets just thank God that his team removed TO, so now we can move on as a team of players rather than a player pretending to be the team.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

TO and/or the drama that comes with him was one of the many problems in Dallas last year. A couple of those circus problems (TO and Adam Jones) are gone. Now it's time to fix the other problems, and yes there are others.

 

[JonJon]

I just think it's funny how so many of the TO Haters on this board fail to even recognize the failures of everyone else including Romo and Garrett. Those two had much, much more to do with our losses than TO ever did. Like Theogt said earlier, TO was a good scape goat. Now that he is gone, there won't be anymore excuses for Romo and Garrett.

 

[coogrfan]

I just think it's funny how so many of the TO Haters on this board fail to even recognize the failures of everyone else including Romo and Garrett. Those two had much, much more to do with our losses than TO ever did. Like Theogt said earlier, TO was a good scape goat. Now that he is gone, there won't be anymore excuses for Romo and Garrett.

Name one.

Name a single poster (or media member, for that matter) who has argued that Owens was solely and entirely to blame for all the Cowboys troubles in 2008.

Go on, we'll wait...

 

[Hostile]

I just think it's funny how so many of the TO Haters on this board fail to even recognize the failures of everyone else including Romo and Garrett. Those two had much, much more to do with our losses than TO ever did. Like Theogt said earlier, TO was a good scape goat. Now that he is gone, there won't be anymore excuses for Romo and Garrett.

No they don't. They just won't hold TO guiltless.

 

[Juke99]

I just think it's funny how so many of the TO Haters on this board fail to even recognize the failures of everyone else including Romo and Garrett. Those two had much, much more to do with our losses than TO ever did. Like Theogt said earlier, TO was a good scape goat. Now that he is gone, there won't be anymore excuses for Romo and Garrett.

ah. I have always loved the extremism of the word "Haters"...NOT.

How many offers from other teams do you think Romo would get if he was released tomorrow? And do you think his final offer might be better than a one year offer from the Bills? Yet he is "much much more" to blame for the losses. Interesting.

Hell, even Garrett got more offers two years ago...and at least had a few teams interview him...than Owens.

The NFL has told you what it thinks of the value of Owens...not the "haters" He signed a one year contract, with a team that is mediocre at best because that's the best, and probably only offer he got. He signed on to a small market team which probably killed him to do so. This after the Cowboys took a 9 million $ hit to release him.

Haters? I don't think so.

 

[Hostile]

ah. I have always loved the extremism of the word "Haters"...NOT.

How many offers from other teams do you think Romo would get if he was released tomorrow? And do you think his final offer might be better than a one year offer from the Bills? Yet he is "much much more" to blame for the losses. Interesting.

Hell, even Garrett got more offers two years ago...and at least had a few teams interview him...than Owens.

The NFL has told you what it thinks of the value of Owens...not the "haters" He signed a one year contract, with a team that is mediocre at best because that's the best, and probably only offer he got. He signed on to a small market team which probably killed him to do so. This after the Cowboys took a 9 million $ hit to release him.

Haters? I don't think so.

jdub2k4 >>> :spanking: <<< Juke99