CFZ Takeaways from last night's Super Bowl!

[fivetwos]

I wouldn't bring the bet up if Ken didn't feel the need to chirp everytime he sees me post.

If you don't chirp at me then I won't have any reason to remind you that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Out of sight out of mind they say.

Agreeing to disagree wouldn’t be the worst thing I’ve heard either one of you say.

 

[JoeKing]

The Cowboys, at their best, are every bit as good as the teams that played in the Super Bowl last night.

 

[jterrell]

Fair enough about the call, just hate seeing those late penalties. Yes, the Eagles are going to have to start paying all these elite players, starting with Hurts, they aren't going to be able to keep everyone. However, they do have 2 1st rd picks which should help, especially one at 10.

For the Cowboys perpective, they have to close the gap talent wise and need to build how to beat the Eagles/49ers as they are looking like the best young teams moving forward in the conference.

It sucks to see big calls decide a game but reality is if Bradbury doesn't hold they give up 7 there.
In hindsight maybe you now prefer to give up 7 and then get your shot to tie.

But realistically, the Eagles kept that same scheme all 2nd half and gave up a TD to the corner of the end zone each drive BEFORE that play.
It was bad coaching and poor CB technique combined.

Eagles stopped the Chiefs zero times in the 2nd half.
All that call gave them was 5 yards and a first down.
The Chiefs gave the Eagles offense two 1sts downs on penalties earlier in the game so it did get called both ways.

Andy Reid has all but driven that 2 high safety look into retirement from two different eras now.
You run that and they go tight and any out breaking route ends up man to man unless you play zone with your CBs and make them sit in flats.
If you do that then the deep outside stuff is wide open.

 

[Cowboyny]

It sucks to see big calls decide a game but reality is if Bradbury doesn't hold they give up 7 there.
In hindsight maybe you now prefer to give up 7 and then get your shot to tie.

But realistically, the Eagles kept that same scheme all 2nd half and gave up a TD to the corner of the end zone each drive BEFORE that play.
It was bad coaching and poor CB technique combined.

Eagles stopped the Chiefs zero times in the 2nd half.
All that call gave them was 5 yards and a first down.
The Chiefs gave the Eagles offense two 1sts downs on penalties earlier in the game so it did get called both ways.

Andy Reid has all but driven that 2 high safety look into retirement from two different eras now.
You run that and they go tight and any out breaking route ends up man to man unless you play zone with your CBs and make them sit in flats.
If you do that then the deep outside stuff is wide open.

Clearly the Eagles got outcoached and the reason why they lost was that they fail to adjust, where Reid and his offense did.

 

[Jake]

-The refs cannot decide a game. That 3rd down call was a touch foul at best. The commissioner was raving how the officiating is so good during the week, but it decided the football game for the championship of the league. Eagles down 3 with over a minute left still had a chance.

If that's CeeDee Lamb, it's 35-35 late in the NFC title game, no one on this board would be saying that shouldn't be called.

If it wasn't called, and the Eagles drive for the win, the meltdown would be epic. We'd have conspiracy theories galore.

 

[baltcowboy]

Yeah, I see them more as #2 type of receivers. This class certainly lacks any elite, #1 receivers. I wonder if the team will consider these small types, since they added Hilton last year, cause there are a ton of them in this year's class.

I was listening to the Star podcast yesterday with Broaddus and Belt. Broaddus wants the Cowboys to release Zeke, Tyron, Kearse, Lewis, Hooker, and Armstrong. At first I was like that would gut the team but as I look at the team’s makeup the team would be ok if Walesko and the young safeties step up. Basically he said the release of those players and restructures of Dak and Martin would give the Cowboys 50 million in cap space. I think he believes the Cowboys defense is about Parsons and Diggs while the key to the offense is the offensive line. I don’t think the Cowboys release a 1/3 of the players that Broaddus suggested though.

 

[Cowboyny]

I was listening to the Star podcast yesterday with Broaddus and Belt. Broaddus wants the Cowboys to release Zeke, Tyron, Kearse, Lewis, Hooker, and Armstrong. At first I was like that would gut the team but as I look at the team’s makeup the team would be ok if Walesko and the young safeties step up. Basically he said the release of those players and restructures of Dak and Martin would give the Cowboys 50 million in cap space. I think he believes the Cowboys defense is about Parsons and Diggs while the key to the offense is the offensive line. I don’t think the Cowboys release a 1/3 of the players that Broaddus suggested though.

We could see a few veterans released, but out of the players you mentioned, Kearse isn’t going anywhere, the others all could go either way. I will say this, they aren’t going to create more holes, especially on defense

 

[Cowboyny]

I mentioned a few weeks ago, Armstrong could be a surprise cut, team saves over 5 million and his play really fell off once they stopped all those twists and stunts.

 

[baltcowboy]

We could see a few veterans released, but out of the players you mentioned, Kearse isn’t going anywhere, the others all could go either way. I will say this, they aren’t going to create more holes, especially on defense

I don’t think Kearse, Tyron and Zeke are going anywhere either but I think the team would be better off with cap space.

 

[Roadtrip635]

- the Chiefs are simply one of the more brilliant teams in terms of scheming designs, formations and misdirection plays … their pre-snap multi-motion, bunches, picks and rub routes simply spin
the confusing heads of opponents.
Twice blown coverage assignments by Eagles near goal line with wiiiiide open end zone targets per McKinnon and Toney with no defender even near.

- Is it Reid or Bienemy that constantly coming up with game in/game out brilliant designed plays ?

They call that play "Corndog Shuttle"....lol Bieniemy noticed by watching tape that the eagles struggled defending that type play. Jags ran a similar play against the Eagles earlier in the year, the Chiefs had a similar play in their playbook and thought it would exploit them.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...huttle-super-bowl-57/lhs2ksl34ih7cji9oe1z3yc9

 

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

The Cowboys need to build another 2016 O-Line they can waste on a bad QB.

LOL

 

[TX_Yid]

We haven’t played this version of hurts

Just do one of those hip tackle things that cost us Pollard.

 

[75boyz]

The obsession with the OPs need for another receiver seems extreme to me. Ignoring the previous year of how BOTH Coop, Lamb, a healthy Gallup, and excellent #4 in Wilson made no difference in the ultimate outcome with this same decision maker at QB is no simple oversight I would hope.

But whatever.

jmo
I mean at some point...
OC? Oline? WR ? RB?OR....(drumroll)

Nevermind. It should be kinda clear by now, lol.

 

[Havic]

I’ll add one more.

The field was so bad it negated the eagles pass rush imo. Proper footing matters.

 

[Swagger]

Even the Eagle player admitted it was a hold and the right call…good grief. And the rules analyst stated if you watched the entire play you’ll see the Philly player held twice. A game shouldn’t be decided by allowing the defence to hold…the refs made the right call…

The point is there will have been countless holding calls as bad and probably worse than that not called throughout the entire game for both teams yet they flag that one right at the end to dictate the result. How many holding calls were called against either o lines? I saw some holds that weren't called. I don't care about the Eagles in any way but it got me thinking if we are in with a shot of winning the Superbowl against Mahomes and there's any opportunity to throw a flag to win the game for him then guess what will happen?

I'm fine with them throwing the flag but yep unfortunately they have to then throw flags for EVERY single ticky tacky call for both teams throughout the entire game. It means a most unsatisfactory stop start game that nobody wants but you either let them play or you don't.

 

[Cowboys_22]

My takeaway is that the eagle players have a lot more class than their fans…

 

[DogFace]

Already tired of the crying over 1 call.

How about not giving up a back breaking punt return? How about now allowing WRs running wide open on goalline plays?

Yes. Those are also parts of the game, but what you’re missing is that they are parts that can potentially be corrected with coaching and practice.

A horrible judgment call can’t be corrected by the team. That’s why that factor in losing is discussed more. Because it needs improvement that the team can’t make happen.

 

[Pola_pe_a]

The problem with the holding call is far worse was let go all game. You can’t call that if you’ve been letting it go all game. It’s just like a strike zone in baseball, if an ump isn’t giving the outside strike all game you can’t change in the 9th inning. That said, it didn’t cost them the game. Too many mistakes and the D’s failure to adjust lost them the game, The call just ended the game.

 

[quickccc]

I was listening to the Star podcast yesterday with Broaddus and Belt. Broaddus wants the Cowboys to release Zeke, Tyron, Kearse, Lewis, Hooker, and Armstrong. At first I was like that would gut the team but as I look at the team’s makeup the team would be ok if Walesko and the young safeties step up. Basically he said the release of those players and restructures of Dak and Martin would give the Cowboys 50 million in cap space. I think he believes the Cowboys defense is about Parsons and Diggs while the key to the offense is the offensive line. I don’t think the Cowboys release a 1/3 of the players that Broaddus suggested though.

- Walesko remains an unknown and a raw and inexperienced one at that. Cannot trust Ball. Talk of returning 40 yr Peters but i'd like for a Wally to compete with Peters.
With the way injuries can hit and wipe out OL at given moment, i'd like as many reliable bodies at hand.
Imo, Tyler remains the biggest key to what happens on the OL - his great capability to flex between both OT and OG.

- I've heard comments on the board that suggest Cowboys making Tyron Smith a backup swing tackle. Even "when" the likihood of a DLaw- like paycut, that would still be too much
to be dishing out to a backup who is Not starting games. Can anyone recall future HOF olinemen being backups ?

- Dunno why a Broaddus would suggest moving on from Kearse whose viewed as the defensive leader for the defense. signal calls, getting personnel in right sets, calming presence
when panicking emotions and despair threatens to set in.
There are some things Kearse does, that a Donovan does not do. and i think Wilson is a heckuva player in the right scheme.

- Maybe i'm greedy, but i'd like more from my FS in an entire season than Hooker; i was very surprised Hooker was so very durable all year long. But i do wonder if he's lost
that great range and closing speed since his achilles tendon tear. And i do wonder if upcomer Izzy ( Israel M.) could present a great challenge to Malik's

- If this is Broaddus' answer- why would we get rid of the luxury depth that we are lucky to have if we did not have to ?
As i've mentioned before, this may be the reason why Broaddus, once a lead scout, is not on any NFL teams scouting department now.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

The Cowboys, at their best, are every bit as good as the teams that played in the Super Bowl last night.

The problem is when we're at our worst....so often.