Talkin Cowboys 4.28

LatinMind · Apr 28, 2016

Pretty confident Dallas is getting calls to move down.

Tunsil falls and the team will be getting ALOT of calls guaranteed.

Some talk that chargers feel they never had their OL healthy at the same team to get a feel for what they got

Nate: IDC who they draft just get a difference maker from day one

Nate: when u get exceptional talent it changes everything and overcomes even inuries to key players

Nate: If you intend to draft Ramsey and you dont know where youre going to play him yet then ur drafting the wrong guy.

The way Ramsey would need to be played to be a impact, its doubtful this team would do.

Dont want Ramsey playing SS vs the run

Common Sense · Apr 28, 2016

Hopefully the Ramsey love fest is to create leverage in a trade down situation.

cmoney23 · Apr 28, 2016

I've felt all along that this Ramsey/Elliot talk is a smoke screen to try to entice someone to trade up. I'd love if they could move back a couple spots and still land Bosa.

erod · Apr 28, 2016

Just don't trade down too far. If they could get Elliott and pick up another 2nd round pick (or high 3rd), I'd be thrilled.

Tabascocat · Apr 28, 2016

"Nate: If you intend to draft Ramsey and you dont know where youre going to play him yet then ur drafting the wrong guy."

That is the main reason I don't want him. Dallas drafting secondary scares me.............

LatinMind · Apr 28, 2016

Nate talks about the STAR posistion FSU made for Ramsey and thats how he should be played. And mentioned teams like AZ and Jets teams that would find a way to maximize his potential, but this team isnt that style of defense, they play a set system and doesnt think he will maxmize his skills in Dallas

DBOY3141 · Apr 28, 2016

dexternjack said:
"Nate: If you intend to draft Ramsey and you dont know where youre going to play him yet then ur drafting the wrong guy."

That is the main reason I don't want him. Dallas drafting secondary scares me.............

Didn't they say they see him as a CB. If so, then they know where they are going to play him. Agree on secondary part. Not a lot of faith in those coaches. New safety coach gets a pass, since he just got here.

slick325 · Apr 28, 2016

"Nate: IDC who they draft just get a difference maker from day one"

Amen!!!

TonyS · Apr 28, 2016

I have no faith that we can develop even a talented CB. I'd rather overpay in FA for someone who's played well somewhere else than take another change on a CB than a 1st Round Secondary Player who middles for the next 5 years. Call it Claiborne's disease. I got dat.

CATCH17 · Apr 28, 2016

LatinMind said:
Pretty confident Dallas is getting calls to move down.

Tunsil falls and the team will be getting ALOT of calls guaranteed.

Some talk that chargers feel they never had their OL healthy at the same team to get a feel for what they got

Nate: IDC who they draft just get a difference maker from day one

Nate: when u get exceptional talent it changes everything and overcomes even inuries to key players

Nate: If you intend to draft Ramsey and you dont know where youre going to play him yet then ur drafting the wrong guy.

The way Ramsey would need to be played to be a impact, its doubtful this team would do.

Dont want Ramsey playing SS vs the run

I like Nate but I wish they would keep him away from all of the draft stuff and just save him for trainingcamp.

boysfanindc · Apr 28, 2016

TonyS said:
I have no faith that we can develop even a talented CB. I'd rather overpay in FA for someone who's played well somewhere else than take another change on a CB than a 1st Round Secondary Player who middles for the next 5 years. Call it Claiborne's disease. I got dat.

You mean like Carr?

noletime95 · Apr 28, 2016

I find it hilarious people are scared of Jalen because he CAN play every position in the secondary and possibly LB in nickel. Isn't that a good thing?

It's not like he's incapable of playing CB or S. It's just how he can best help the team. Again, that's a good thing.

ABQCOWBOY · Apr 28, 2016

dexternjack said:
"Nate: If you intend to draft Ramsey and you dont know where youre going to play him yet then ur drafting the wrong guy."

That is the main reason I don't want him. Dallas drafting secondary scares me.............

That's interesting and I do get that line of thought but I would point out that Tom Landry didn't draft this way. Tom Drafted Football players that offered something and he would then figure out the best position for them. Just as an FYI.

Philmonroe · Apr 28, 2016

noletime95 said:
I find it hilarious people are scared of Jalen because he CAN play every position in the secondary and possibly LB in nickel. Isn't that a good thing?

It's not like he's incapable of playing CB or S. It's just how he can best help the team. Again, that's a good thing.

Its a good when your great at everything and most people that do this stuff don't seem to see him that way. They see him waaaaaay better at safety than cb. Maybe a little exaggeration on way but you get my point. This guy is like them old tv/VCR combo thingys that always broke(without injury hopefully). This guy is Jones that went to a better football school.

Tabascocat · Apr 28, 2016

ABQCOWBOY said:
That's interesting and I do get that line of thought but I would point out that Tom Landry didn't draft this way. Tom Drafted Football players that offered something and he would then figure out the best position for them. Just as an FYI.

Garrett aint Landry :omg:

slick325 · Apr 28, 2016

noletime95 said:
I find it hilarious people are scared of Jalen because he CAN play every position in the secondary and possibly LB in nickel. Isn't that a good thing?

It's not like he's incapable of playing CB or S. It's just how he can best help the team. Again, that's a good thing.

Interesting take on things...because being able to play multiple positions well is what made Myles Jack the fancy of many people's eye.

The most damning thing I hear from most Anti-Ramsey folks is his lack of turnovers generated.

ABQCOWBOY · Apr 28, 2016

dexternjack said:
Garrett aint Landry

True, but maybe this kind of thinking is why.

CowboyStar88 · Apr 28, 2016

At this point I have no idea what we are doing. If they have something in the works they've surely played this poker hand excellent.

Only thing I will say if this is the case don't get cute and ruin whatever you're trying to do.

ABQCOWBOY · Apr 28, 2016

slick325 said:
Interesting take on things...because being able to play multiple positions well is what made Myles Jack the fancy of many people's eye.

The most damning thing I hear from most Anti-Ramsey folks is his lack of turnovers generated.

That's the thing right there.

perrykemp · Apr 28, 2016

noletime95 said:
I find it hilarious people are scared of Jalen because he CAN play every position in the secondary and possibly LB in nickel. Isn't that a good thing?

It's not like he's incapable of playing CB or S. It's just how he can best help the team. Again, that's a good thing.

You make good points.

I think people are fearful of guys who are clearly world-class in one position, but just very good at multiple. You just don't see a lot of it in the NFL.

If it all works out for Ramsey, he could be a Charles Woodson type -- great corner, incredible nickel CB/LB combo, good safety, etc. Those types are exceedingly rare.

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