Tashard Choice Cut - Bruce Carter Activated

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TheCount;4209058 said:
Of course you can discuss it without knowing, what do any of us really know about why goes on during a game, much less behind the scenes? We're fans, not journalists.

May I infer that journalists know what is going on?
 

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iceberg;4209037 said:
bennett is a fantastic blocker - people who are mad he's not another witten are the ones who need to buy a clue.

Well we do have two other tight ends who can block. Or don't we? I don't expect anyone to be another Witten but Bennett is a disappointment.
 

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Again, where did I immediately accept Rob Ryan? You like assuming stuff about which you have no earthly clue. He's entertaining, but I'm the guy who last week pointed out that we were on pace to allow 387 points this year. I don't find that all that palatable.

Hos, I don't think there has been a time i didn't agree with you and whil this statement is true a good deal of the points being scored against the team have been the result of Romo throwing int's at the most inoppurtune time. I can't blame a Ryan led defense that is constantly fighting the mistakes of the offense and having to play with their backs against the wall.
We have all seen the results of opposing teams playing with short fields, and those ususlly come as the result of a turnover.
 

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slomoxn;4209073 said:
Again, where did I immediately accept Rob Ryan? You like assuming stuff about which you have no earthly clue. He's entertaining, but I'm the guy who last week pointed out that we were on pace to allow 387 points this year. I don't find that all that palatable.

Hos, I don't think there has been a time i didn't agree with you and whil this statement is true a good deal of the points being scored against the team have been the result of Romo throwing int's at the most inoppurtune time. I can't blame a Ryan led defense that is constantly fighting the mistakes of the offense and having to play with their backs against the wall.
We have all seen the results of opposing teams playing with short fields, and those ususlly come as the result of a turnover.
True, but we also allowed back to back game winning drives where TDs were scored. That isn't all that great.

I like our potential, but I'm not crowning our D just yet.
 

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thisisepic;4209063 said:
Well we do have two other tight ends who can block. Or don't we? I don't expect anyone to be another Witten but Bennett is a disappointment.

then you're wanting things out of him the coaching staff does not. stay mad but it's not really justified.
 

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fortdick;4209062 said:
May I infer that journalists know what is going on?

You are free to infer whatever you want about anything, beauty of having a brain of your very own. ;)
 

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Maybe trading Choice wasn't the best decision. It seems the decision wasn't Choice vs Murray but Choice vs Tanner. Maybe the team decided they prefer what Tanner brings to the table. Murray's skills and college production far exceed Choice's and he's younger and cheaper. Murray might be a starter in the NFL. Tashard has proven that he just isn't a starting running back on this level. He just can't do what Felix and Murray can do. Right now, neither can Tanner but he just might be a better goalline option. Why hold on to a 4th string RB that doesn't play Special Teams?
 

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TheCount;4209084 said:
You are free to infer whatever you want about anything, beauty of having a brain of your very own. ;)

I try to think differently, just like all my friends do.

:D
 

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iceberg;4209053 said:
and?

no one has any idea what, if anything, was offered for choice but damn it, jones should have traded him regardless of our #1 back being out and about a dozen runs from the other 2.

we can add/drop players all day long w/o concequence. when it's a billion $ business, you don't.
You are right, we don't know if anyting was offered, just interest expressed according to Jerry. But interest is usually becomes an offer if the other party gives some sort of sign that that interest is reciprocated. If Jerry said "thanks for the call but right now we'll stick with Choice for now" then the interest is basically denied. We don't know... but if he was going to trade him he would have made a move when intrest was expressed.
Everyone on this board has seen Jerry move and shake when he wants something done so why would this be any different. By his own words teams were interested and if that is the case it is by his own inaction that nothing came of it.
I understand waiting to see what would happen as Felix was out and Murray was an unknown but was Choice offering so much that they felt they couldn't do without him? Murry and Tanner could not do much worse than the Choice of late and Jones needs to learn to maximize his teams potential. Choice two years ago you do not part with in this situation, Choice 2011, you get what you can and roll the dice. Why not they did it with the O-line.
 

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iceberg;4209082 said:
then you're wanting things out of him the coaching staff does not. stay mad but it's not really justified.

You don't draft blocking TE's in the 2nd round.
 

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iceberg;4209082 said:
then you're wanting things out of him the coaching staff does not. stay mad but it's not really justified.

I'm not mad. Never said I was.

I think Bennett is a CLOWN and will never reach his potential. I don't want anything out of him.. I want him gone.
 

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Hostile;4209078 said:
True, but we also allowed back to back game winning drives where TDs were scored. That isn't all that great.

I like our potential, but I'm not crowning our D just yet.

One of the game winning drives was to a qb that may go down as the best to ever play the game. Before that we held them to 13 points.

The other was after the Romo pick that was intended for Witten and it gave them a short field.

I don't know what the points against would be without pick 6's, short fields, and punt blocks but I guess every defense has those.

But I'm a Ryan homer so take it for what it's worth.
 

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Hostile;4209078 said:
True, but we also allowed back to back game winning drives where TDs were scored. That isn't all that great.

I like our potential, but I'm not crowning our D just yet.
You got me there...
 

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JBell523;4209101 said:
You don't draft blocking TE's in the 2nd round.

I don't think that was the intend. I think first and foremost they saw Bennett as maybe even more athletic than Witten. A tightend who could be more like a WR.

However over time his receiving skills haven't developed as many would have liked, but his blocking skills have really ramped up.
 

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slomoxn;4209073 said:
HOS
Again, where did I immediately accept Rob Ryan? You like assuming stuff about which you have no earthly clue. He's entertaining, but I'm the guy who last week pointed out that we were on pace to allow 387 points this year. I don't find that all that palatable.

Hos, I don't think there has been a time i didn't agree with you and whil this statement is true a good deal of the points being scored against the team have been the result of Romo throwing int's at the most inoppurtune time. I can't blame a Ryan led defense that is constantly fighting the mistakes of the offense and having to play with their backs against the wall.
We have all seen the results of opposing teams playing with short fields, and those ususlly come as the result of a turnover.

The D was not very good against the Jets. Romo made two mistakes against the Jets, they led to 3 points the other way. The defense shares much of the blame in the Jets loss.

Romo was the primary reason we lost the Lions game but again, the D was far from perfect. Since the offense takes the field again right after a pick 6, you can't really suggest a short field was the reason our D gave up 4th quarter points that did not follow turnovers. One came after a long scoring drive by our offense.


If you want to put it all on Romo go ahead, I'm tired of that argument. However, please don't act like the defense was perfect and don't act like they and/or special teams have not also put the offense in bad spots before. I've seen plenty of drives start inside our 10.
 

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EGG;4209002 said:
It's irritating not to get anything for him but odds are they would have only received a 5th or 6th rounder,,, and they might get a 6th or 7th as a compensatory pick anyway.

This has that Jimmy Johnson "don't think I won't cut you" feel to it and I likey.
If that is the case once again it is a wash for me and I can live with it. It is just the possibility of them having lost an oppurtunity to maybe get a late round draft choice or developemental player in return for Choice that is irritating.
Before anyone says it late round choices on most teams do not pan out I know, look at our roster though before you speak. Dallas is pretty good in that area. So while not gaining a late round pick may not be all bad, it could also keep them from finding another stud that no one else saw or took a chance on. It is the potential of a new player that they would be losing out on.
 

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MichaelWinicki;4209109 said:
I don't think that was the intend. I think first and foremost they saw Bennett as maybe even more athletic than Witten. A tightend who could be more like a WR.

However over time his receiving skills haven't developed as many would have liked, but his blocking skills have really ramped up.

I agree with this post.
 

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shockandroll;4209119 said:
The D was not very good against the Jets. Romo made two mistakes against the Jets, they led to 3 points the other way. The defense shares much of the blame in the Jets loss.

Romo was the primary reason we lost the Lions game but again, the D was far from perfect. Since the offense takes the field again right after a pick 6, you can't really suggest a short field was the reason our D gave up 4th quarter points that did not follow turnovers. One came after a long scoring drive by our offense.


If you want to put it all on Romo go ahead, I'm tired of that argument. However, please don't act like the defense was perfect and don't act like they and/or special teams have not also put the offense in bad spots before. I've seen plenty of drives start inside our 10.

Well let me put this as simply as I can, the defense has out played the offense thus far. Maybe that will change maybe not.
 

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birdwells1;4209105 said:
One of the game winning drives was to a qb that may go down as the best to ever play the game. Before that we held them to 13 points.

The other was after the Romo pick that was intended for Witten and it gave them a short field.

I don't know what the points against would be without pick 6's, short fields, and punt blocks but I guess every defense has those.

But I'm a Ryan homer so take it for what it's worth.

That's true and I agree the defense has been very good other then the Jets game. Against the Lions remember they did give up an 80 yard TD right after our long FG drive. That TD was also in the 4th quarter and had nothing to do with the offense.

I still obviously agree Romo was the primary culprit that game, but it was not all him. Had the D been able to stop them that drive or even hold them to a FG, it may have been enough to win the game. It certainly would have changed the dynamic of the rest of the 4th quarter.
 

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birdwells1;4209130 said:
Well let me put this as simply as I can, the defense has out played the offense thus far. Maybe that will change maybe not.

I don't think they did against the Jets or the Rams, other than that I agree. I'm hoping getting Romo and the receivers healthy along with hopefully at least a little improvement with our running game will help get the offense back on track.
 
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