CFZ Team weaknesses as of mid April

morasp

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:huh: . . . Tell me you do not know about WR talent without telling me you know nothing about WR talent in the NFL

I know many are against it and mock it . . ..But you should play Fantasy Football . . . It Helps you learn about the other teams and players in the league

Cooks is and has been a Playmaker . . . He was The Texans only Play Maker . . . Washington was a "Playmaker" for like a 3 week span when Rothlesburger was still there
When I broke down his production over the last three years it was on par with Amari Coopers so yes I think he will be a good addition to our WR group barring something unexpected happening. I also think AJ Brown/Devonta Smith and Chase/Higgins/Boyd are better.
 

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The Cowboys don’t have a hole QB so you guys need to put that to rest. If you want to see a hole at QB with the Cowboys, you have to go back to the mid to late 80s and early 2000s.
We have a sometimes good, sometimes very marginal, and occasionally awful QB. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on Dak. But realistically we have a very limited backup QB with almost zero upside in Rush.

Ideally we draft Dak’s eventual replacement in one of the middle rounds (or sooner if a unique situation arises—Rodgers). The replacement develops at his own pace, and if he eventually beats out Dak, or if Dak goes down to injury we are covered.

Rush can hold down the fort for a game or two (if everything goes right) but if you are relying on Rush to win playoff games you might as well just be smoking a cigarette on the sidelines.
 

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When I broke down his production over the last three years it was on par with Amari Coopers so I think he will be a good addition barring something unexpected happening.
I feel like He is a better compliment then Amari. . . He will get open with his Speed, Route Running and Experience . . . He will create a lot of space for Lamb and Gallup

I like Him better then Hopkins believe it or not and the price Contract and Compensation is beautiful

Cowboys are lucky to get Cooks

When they acquired Washington last year I just rolled my eyes.
 

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I feel like He is a better compliment then Amari. . . He will get open with his Speed, Route Running and Experience . . . He will create a lot of space for Lamb and Gallup

I like Him better then Hopkins believe it or not and the price Contract and Compensation is beautiful

Cowboys are lucky to get Cooks

When they acquired Washington last year I just rolled my eyes.
Hope so. If he can back the safeties off and command doubles that would be fantastic for the other WRs and the running game. I haven't watched the Texans that much to know if he had that affect.
 

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Your whole argument is centered around this as your basis for the Modern QB having more pressure. . . . because the ball is thrown more

:facepalm: . . . The Ball is thrown more because it is easier to rack up stats.

Wr was molested for 10 yards into their routes. If they went over the middle it could end their careers . . . Now you can't touch the WR as He sprints down the field and now if you make a WR pay for going over the middle you will be fined for Hitting a defenseless Wr

QB could bot throw the ball into the third row after getting "Outside the Tackle" . . . He had to make a mad dash of 15 to 20 yards to get put of bounds (for a loss) before he got His clock cleaned . . . If the QB ran pass the line of scrimmage He could not slide to avoid a hit

The game has become a joke of what it was. What passes for QB is nothing more then glorified RBs 90% of the QBs in the league would be out of the league if the rules were to be reverted back . . . Malholmes may have succeeded but He would not make it look so easy

As far as "Average QBs" winning in the Modern Game . . . All I have seen win it was Brady but Nick Foles does say Hi
My argument is based on watching the game for the past 50 years and listening to former NFL QBs who played decades ago. Racking up stats don’t win football games. The QB has to make plays and put points on the board. QBs didn’t have to carry teams years ago the way they do now. Most of the rule changes have promoted scoring and you put points up in the passing game. Most of the QBs these days are dual threat with their arms and legs. They provide a huge percentage of their teams offense with rushing and passing. Good luck winning a Super Bowl these days with a Jim McMahon, Jeff Hostetler, or Trent Dilfer. Bob Griese won a Super Bowl throwing 11 passes.

Everything revolved around the running game back then but these days RBs have been devalued. Everything is being put on the shoulders of the QB. As for Nick Foles he’s the last average QB to win a Super Bowl but he didn’t play like an average QB. He played like a Hall of Famer putting up an MVP performance with 373 yards and three TDs with a passer rating of 106.1. He didn’t just sit back and hand the ball off he made plays! Nine of the last 10 QBs that have won the Super Bowl have a shot at the Hall of Fame. A few of them are locks.
 

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Good points but you’re wrong about the OL. We have Farniok, Waletzko and signed Edoga and Steele will be ready by TC supposedly. There is no need to reach for a player or take one early unless they have an OL rated higher than anyone else when that pick rolls around.

IMO, our biggest areas of need at this point in time are LB and WR. We have guys who could be upgraded.
This post is one of those instances where if you had read my original post you would realize that at no point did I suggest that we “reach for an OL”. So I really don’t know where you came up with that idea.

Our OL prognosis depends on whether you are optimistic (it’s all sunshine and rainbows) Tyron is still a hall of famer, Steele will be his old self, be better than ever and start game 1, Farniok takes the next step and fills in at G or takes over at center and our young guns develop into solid starters over time.

While I will concede all of the above is possible, the smart money is probably betting it is unlikely. Realistically:

1. At best Tyron isn’t his hall of fame self, continues to regress and is unavailable for part of the year due to injury or level of play.

2. Ball/Waletzko the smart money is probably only betting that one of the two plays at a marginal swing tackle level and the other doesn’t stick with the team.

3. Steele may recover to be close to the level he was when he went down with injury, but the odds are he won’t be the same from the start of the season, at best.

4. I’m higher on Farniok than most but if you are “banking” on Farniok to be anything other than decent quality depth until he proves otherwise, it’s probably unwise to assume he will be more than he appears to be so far.
 

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We have a sometimes good, sometimes very marginal, and occasionally awful QB.
That was last season, but that hasn’t been the case his entire career. He was outstanding against Tampa in the playoffs, but awful the following week. He was up and down last season but he still ended up 8-4. He’s still a lot better than what most teams have at QB.
 

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What questionable performance? He had arguably the best performance in QB playoff history against the bucs and then ran into the best defense in the NFL with no Pollard, poor Oline play and one receiver. Not a big deal.

Dak has more than proved his worth to anyone that understands football.
I'm referring to Dak's performance in the playoffs and you're focusing on the regular season. The regular season means little, compared to the playoff results. There's a huge difference between doing well vs. the weaker teams and doing so vs. actual contenders. It's time for him to show results vs. the teams that test QBs more than most teams do. This year will surely be a crossroads year for him in that respect. I understand that, even if you don't. I hope he does well for his sake and for that of the team, as well.
 
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DT still blows even with the big tub of goo resigning a few weeks ago. They lack anyone close to being a playmaker on the inside. They have warm bodies. That's it.
Well you’re always negative so no surprise.
 

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Don't think OT is a serious need. I'd go DT, RB, OG, TE, K.

The reason I added TE is because we currently have no idea what we've got in Ferguson and Hendershot. We've got a decent inkling, but we don't know if they will be able to fill the starter's shoes.

Kicker is the one spot where we really don't even have a potential starter. Vizcaino is just a camp body.
We have no idea what they’ve got in Ferguson or Hendershot but the coaches do.
 

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I'm referring to Dak's performance in the playoffs and you're focusing on the regular season. The regular season means little, compared to the playoff results. There's a huge difference between doing well vs. the weaker teams and doing so vs. actual contenders. It's time for him to show results vs. the teams that test QBs more than most teams do. This year will surely be a crossroads year for him in that respect. I understand that, even if you don't.
You don’t make it to 12-5 without playing well.
 

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You don’t make it to 12-5 without playing well.
Granted, he plays well but not very well in the playoffs, unfortunately.

I'll be pulling for him to do better. I do think he's good but that's it. :cool:
 
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We have no idea what they’ve got in Ferguson or Hendershot but the coaches do.
Some, but even they can be wrong because expectations don't always work out. For example, Dallas coaches expected Alan Ball to be able to play safety. They were wrong. There are plenty of examples of failed starters, but that's the first one I could think of.
 

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I think both rookie TE's demonstrated some potential to make meaningful contributions in the future. That optimism becomes more justified when you consider the typical jump in performance a player has going into their 2nd season

Therefore, I really don't consider that a true need going into this draft

Anyway, drafting to fill a present need is a gamble, especially the lower the round.

In my opinion, the Cowboys immediate needs in order of importance is RB, DT, and G.

The Cowboys would have to draft two of them in the first two rounds and hope they get a real steal in another round in order to fill these needs.

Furthermore, they would have to hope that all three would be quick enough learners to be viable starters on day #1.

Finally, they would have to cross their fingers and hope they can stay healthy enough to make it through the season.

As you can see, that's a tall order for only three needs.

The Cowboys would be better off targeting a need in the first round and then drafting BPA the rest of the way. They should, instead, depend on developing young players already on the team in order to fill immediate needs.
 

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Granted, he plays well but not very well in the playoffs, unfortunately.

I'll be pulling for him to do better. I do think he's good but that's it. :cool:
You don’t get it. I didn’t say Dak doesn’t make it to 12-5 unless Dak plays well, I said the team doesn’t make it to 12-5 unless the team plays well. I know Dak lives in your brain but you’re not that stupid to think that all wins and losses are because of the QB are you?
 

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Some, but even they can be wrong because expectations don't always work out. For example, Dallas coaches expected Alan Ball to be able to play safety. They were wrong. There are plenty of examples of failed starters, but that's the first one I could think of.
Sure they can be wrong. But you’re immensely more wrong than they are.
 

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Very true, then you have that one player that freaks out and messes the whole season up, two times.

I'll let you take a guess who it is.
You don’t get it. I didn’t say Dak doesn’t make it to 12-5 unless Dak plays well, I said the team doesn’t make it to 12-5 unless the team plays well. I know Dak lives in your brain but you’re not that stupid to think that all wins and losses are because of the QB are you?
 

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You don’t get it. I didn’t say Dak doesn’t make it to 12-5 unless Dak plays well, I said the team doesn’t make it to 12-5 unless the team plays well. I know Dak lives in your brain but you’re not that stupid to think that all wins and losses are because of the QB are you?
You didn't say "the team," what you said was "you don't make it to 12-5 without playing well." Those are your exact words. Dak doesn't live in my brain -- don't put words in my mouth. Now, like you do with so many others, you resort to insults. I'm through with you and your absurd BS. You were truly referring to Dak, not the team and now you're changing your story. Nice try but that's BS and you know it. No wonder you have so many problems with the members here. You change your tune to suit making your case sound legit when it's not at all. Try being honest, at least.
 
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You didn't say "the team," what you said was "you don't make it to 12-5 without playing well." Those are your exact words. Dak doesn't live in my brain -- don't put words in my mouth. Now, like you do with so many others, you resort to insults. I'm through with you and your absurd BS. You were truly referring to Dak, not the team and now you're changing your story. Nice try but that's BS and you know it. No wonder you have so many problems with the members here. You change your tune to suit making your case sound legit when it's not at all. Try being honest, at least.
Exactly. Thanks for proving my point.
 
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