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[Nightman]

The game started to turn after that turnover. If you didn't see that, then you didn't watch the same game, or just trying to stick up for murray.

You mean the very next drive when Dallas took it 80 yds for a TD to make it 21-13 after Murray took a long run to the one and then punched it in. Yeah I would say the mo definitely turned back to Dallas.

 

[Frozen700]

You mean the very next drive when Dallas took it 80 yds for a TD to make it 21-13 after Murray took a long run to the one and then punched it in. Yeah I would say the mo definitely turned back to Dallas.

Had we scored on that drive with Murray, instead of a fumble, we would be talking about something completely different. Stop.

 

[gimmesix]

But it wasn't the norm for him over his career. Maybe with more carries in the other years he would have fumbled more but there is no way of knowing that. No matter where he plays he will need to address it, that's for sure.

That might mean it's easily fixable and a one-year aberration. Hopefully if Murray is re-signed, he'll get in film study, see where his technique failed him and correct it.

Sometimes technique just gets away from a player and it takes him a while to figure it out. (Doug Free is a good, recent example of that.)

 

[Frozen700]

You mean the very next drive when Dallas took it 80 yds for a TD to make it 21-13 after Murray took a long run to the one and then punched it in. Yeah I would say the mo definitely turned back to Dallas.

He actually hand delivered more points to GB. So your point about us scoring on the following drive means ****.

 

[Nightman]

He actually hand delivered more points to GB. So your point about us scoring on the following drive means ****.

That makes zero sense. Murray had over 120 yds and a TD, Dez did very little

The defense lost the game, again. That 46 yd TD to Adams on 3rd and 15 was the game changer.

 

[Frozen700]

That makes zero sense. Murray had over 120 yds and a TD, Dez did very little

The defense lost the game, again. That 46 yd TD to Adams on 3rd and 15 was the game changer.

Makes 0 sense? It makes no sense that a Murray turnover gave greenbay points? Instead of us?

Whatever I see you will say and do anything to stick up for Murray. So go ahead.

 

[Nightman]

Had we scored on that drive with Murray, instead of a fumble, we would be talking about something completely different. Stop.

We scored on the very next drive because of Murray. You can't seem to grasp that.

Before the fumble 14-10
After the fumble 21-13

 

[Frozen700]

We scored on the very next drive because of Murray. You can't seem to grasp that.

Before the fumble 14-10
After the fumble 21-13

You don't understand the game of football is not about points, but a game of momentum.

I'm done.

 

[Nightman]

You don't understand the game of football is not about points, but a game of momentum.

I'm done.

You are done, you got nothing but ifs and buts

 

[Frozen700]

You are done, you got nothing but ifs and buts

Exactly, you are right.

Murray can fumble 20 times. As long as he scores after each fumble it's ok.

 

[Idgit]

Murray fumbled us out of the playoffs and gave up home field advantage in the Commanders game. No one likes to talk about that though

The Commanders game thing isn't fair, because he played a huge role in winning several other games for us that got us to the position we were in in the first place. That sword cuts two ways.
The GB game we're talking about already, and it was a huge, huge play in that game. We were very likely to put that one away right there...you could feel it happening. The fumble was a bigger play than the officials fouling up the review of Dez's catch. That play, though, wasn't just a ball control problem for Murray (though I think that was a definite factor)...Peppers made a great move avoiding Martin and still getting a paw on that ball.
Anyway, I don't want to defend a back for fumbling, in any way, shape, or form. It drives me crazy.

 

[Stash]

We scored on the very next drive because of Murray. You can't seem to grasp that.

Before the fumble 14-10
After the fumble 21-13

With the Murray fumble - 21 points.

Without the Murray fumble - 28 points.

And a win instead of a loss.

 

[Nightman]

You don't understand the game of football is not about points, but a game of momentum.

I'm done.

Please explain momentum to me

Murray fumbles and GB gets a FG to make it 14-13. GB has all the mo
Dallas immediately answers with a long drive and a Murray TD to make it 21-13. Dallas gets ZERO mo

 

[Nightman]

With the Murray fumble - 21 points.

Without the Murray fumble - 28 points.

And a win instead of a loss.

Way to assume A- he scores on that play after Martin whiffs on his block and Peppers blindsides Murray
B- the game continues the same way after that play
C- GB doesn't score again on their last drive instead of running out the clock

Look, Murray's fumble stunk, but he made up for it. The Defense let a hobbled Rodgers tear them up in the second half and move the ball at will.

 

[HellCrowe]

people want to look at numbers because it is factual. What peopke don't understand is AP carried his team on his own. No one shared the load with him! That is just amazing. He is still regarded as one of the top 3 backs even at 30. He has a lot of wear and tear but has been out for a whole season. I feel like he is the Wolverine of the NFL. I would pitch him a 4 year contract with a home town discount.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

people want to look at numbers because it is factual. What peopke don't understand is AP carried his team on his own. No one shared the load with him! That is just amazing. He is still regarded as one of the top 3 backs even at 30. He has a lot of wear and tear but has been out for a whole season. I feel like he is the Wolverine of the NFL. I would pitch him a 4 year contract with a home town discount.

30 year old with a 4 year contract. wow.

 

[HellCrowe]

30 year old with a 4 year contract. wow.

Yes. All day!

If Jerry wants him here he will have to sign him for the last years of his career as well. This is all under the stipulation that both parties really want this to happen. You and I know how Jerry works. If the price is right or wrong. Hopefully they want each other soo much the deal benefits the team more.

 

[Stash]

Way to assume A- he scores on that play after Martin whiffs on his block and Peppers blindsides Murray

No assumption at all. Just a functioning set of eyes (and ears to hear the announcers point out the obvious)

B- the game continues the same way after that play

C- GB doesn't score again on their last drive instead of running out the clock

Look, Murray's fumble stunk, but he made up for it. The Defense let a hobbled Rodgers tear them up in the second half and move the ball at will.

The defense outperformed what they were all season. The fact that such a rag-tag, undermanned group held up their end at all was a bit of a miracle, especially against one of the league's best quarterbacks.

No, the Cowboys and specifically their offense had that game and let it get away from them. And Murray's fumble among other plays was a key reason why.

 

[DeaconBlues]

The trade can be contingent on a renegotiated deal.

The trade cap numbers are still based on Minn contract; renegotiated numbers won't take effect until after the trade occurs.

 

[Frozen700]

Please explain momentum to me

Murray fumbles and GB gets a FG to make it 14-13. GB has all the mo
Dallas immediately answers with a long drive and a Murray TD to make it 21-13. Dallas gets ZERO mo

You never played a sport in your life huh?

Giving a team even a little slither of hope, with a score. Boosts confidence.

If we continue to score instead of turning the ball over, we are up 21-10. Who knows how GB reacts to that vs 21-13 a TD, pretty much just to tie the game.

Regardless we don't turn the ball over there, and go onto score we have them in a trail position, regardless of what they do. That gives us momentum, and puts the pressure on them, because we know that regardless of what they do, as long as we play our game, we will be 2 steps ahead of them, and 1 mistake can end it for them.

They make another mistake, or give us the ball back, up 2 scores, and we score again? Almost, pretty much, game over. That's a bunch of pressure. Like walking on egg shells.

Murray completely took that deal off the table when he fumbled. Now we are back to playing a game of "Damn they are right behind us, even with a score, they can still tie it"