Terrance Newman ruined this game along with Wade

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rangers71;3239449 said:
Your right you got me. Fire Campo. Just one question though who do you give credit to for Jenkins turning into a player?

As far as I'm concerned Jenkins himself.
 

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rangers71;3239433 said:
Troy said that Newman was supposed to jam him. I think I will take his word for it. He played in the NFL and played for Campo so I bet he knows more than we do.

I just find it odd that both cornerbacks would play 5-7 yards off when they were supposed be playing at the line of scrimmage and jamming the receivers. It's not often you see two guys make the exact same mistake in exactly the same way on the same play.
 

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Yeagermeister;3239462 said:
Campo calls the coverage the secondary plays not the overall defense

Ok man, you're probably my favorite poster here, but that is an asinine post. The defense as a whole is called because the secondary and the front seven (or front 3 / LB 4) have to be in sync.

The defense runs a package. The package has to support each others faults. (defensive backs press when blitzing due to coverage deficiencies to give rushers more time to get the to QB)

Wade calls what package is ran. Campo doesn't call ****. He just talks to the players to make sure they are on the same page.

Brian Steward got fired because he was clueless on how to call defensive packages based on the situation.
 

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BlueBandit;3238999 said:
Newman should be released - his loss of Rice at the LOS was unforgivable and it should the end of his overrated career in Dallas - the last of the losing players on this team.

The guy he passed Rice off to had blanket coverage, so was it really that bad? Also, I don't remember him getting beaten much the rest of the game.
 

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nyc;3239500 said:
Ok man, you're probably my favorite poster here, but that is an asinine post. The defense as a whole is called because the secondary and the front seven (or front 3 / LB 4) have to be in sync.

The defense runs a package. The package has to support each others faults. (defensive backs press when blitzing due to coverage deficiencies to give rushers more time to get the to QB)

Wade calls what package is ran. Campo doesn't call ****. He just talks to the players to make sure they are on the same page.

Brian Steward got fired because he was clueless on how to call defensive packages based on the situation.

Sorry but he does. He tells the cb's when to press or play off. Wade calls the overall defense.

Like I said if I'm wrong I'll admit it.

Why did Wade look at Campo after the play if it was his call?
 

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Yeagermeister;3239555 said:
Sorry but he does. He tells the cb's when to press or play off. Wade calls the overall defense.

Like I said if I'm wrong I'll admit it.

Why did Wade look at Campo after the play if it was his call?

My guess, and I could be off, but I'd imagine Campo's job during the week is partly to ensure his defensive backs know their assignments backward and forward. It looked to me like Wade was mad he didn't have his guy ready.

I'm pretty sure nyc is right on Campo not calling any kind of coverage on a play by play basis.
 

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wade said in his PC we had one guy jammimg him and the other guy over the top, he didn't even know the ball was coming strangest play I ever seen

interesting thing was I didn't see any jam from newman:eek: his back peddling act he did late in the game bothered me more then anything, he wanted no part of it. I dont think Newman had a great year he was up and down. But that being said he is still better then most CB's in the league

hopefully the offseason will do him good and he can bounce back and be more consistant
 

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Yeagermeister;3239348 said:
It's Campo's call to press or back off. Newman played the coverage that was called.

Then Campo is a complete dumb arse!!!!


I have never heard of running a "cover 2 shell" where the outside reciever is allowed to run full speed directly at the FS. Newman not only didnt jam him, Newman didnt even run with him. Newman basically could have just sat down on the ground and waited for the play to be over and he would have been just as effective.


If that was the called defense, StayPuff needs to go!!!
 

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Yeagermeister;3239431 said:
And who does the call that the safety makes come from? Wade? Jerry? Garrett? Dat?

As far as I am concerned, Wade is the DC of the team and its his responsibility to make the calls.

StayPuff's defense gave up 34 points today, thats all I need to know. If it was my call, I fire his arse after yet another end of season plastering.
 

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AdamJT13;3239489 said:
I just find it odd that both cornerbacks would play 5-7 yards off when they were supposed be playing at the line of scrimmage and jamming the receivers. It's not often you see two guys make the exact same mistake in exactly the same way on the same play.

Maybe Troy meant that our CBs were supposed to jam the recievers, but since neither did that tells me that StayPuff ****ed up the call.


Its very possible that Jenkins and Newman were told to play off their guy when in reality they were supposed to jam them when playing a cover 2 shell. That is probably what Troy meant.

In other words, our brilliant DC ****ed up the call.
 

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1. If you watched the play newman bit on the play fake, not wades fault

2. Making fun of his weight is childish and immature.

Im just going to assume you are 12 or 13? You should probably be getting to bed.
 

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It never ceases to amaze me the number of people who will defend that wuss Newman. He stinks. He sucks. He blows. He can't tackle. He can't cover. He can't catch. He lost a step. And he is plain stupid.

And he will be even worse next year...if he's on the team. I hope he is cut. Can't trade him because no one wants him.

Yet, he is adored by many here.
 

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Eskimo;3239051 said:
CBs are tough to find - we keep him warts and all for now. He is good in coverage but does fall asleep once in awhile. BTW, the first Rice TD was on Sensabaugh, not TNew. The second was on defense design on a broken play. The third was offensive PI.

Definitely. Keep TNew but restructure to make cap room if there is one or just save money, period
 

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How about the SS actually looking for the ball. That ball should have at least been knocked down. That was terrible on Sensabaugh's part. What a concept.

AdamJT13 made a strong point about the way Jenkins was playing on that play.
 

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GimmeTheBall!;3239791 said:
Definitely. Keep TNew but restructure to make cap room if there is one or just save money, period

Yeah, right. Like Terri Newman is going to take a paycut.:confused: :rolleyes:

Get real. He got his money. He ain't taking a paycut. Same with MaryAnn Barber.
 

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I want him gone also. It's only so many times you can miss a damn jam on the reciever at the line in Cover 2. It's just ridiculous now. And the play where the refs called it dead and Farve went deep to Sidney Rice and Newman played the ball horribly and got burnt. Enough is enough from that dude. I would def get rid of him and draft a youngster at corner.
 
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