Terrence "Prime Time" Newman

[aikemirv]

I hope we put T-New on Moss.....

I cannot believe taht they will change anything up and stick Newman on Moss. Glenn will be fine on Moss IMO, but they have to avoid the matchup of Henry on Moss, there is no way Henry, in his limited state can stick on Moss, especially on they quick flanker screen that they run.

Henry is not 100% and that type of play would be very difficult for him to handle in his current condition.

 

[Chuck 54]

I appreciate Newman, but there's no corner, no DB of any position, that I'd take over DeRonde Barber of Tampa Bay.

I certainly wouldn't put Newman in Deon's neighborhood just because he covers well. Newman doesn't make the INTs or strike mortal terror into QBs when they even think of throwing to his side of the field. He's had 1 good punt return, which doesn't put him in Deon's league as perhaps the most feared punt returner ever. And....lining up at WR for one running play doesn't compare either. I was in Atlanta when Deon took a little swing pass and high stepped down the sideline for about 65 yards for a TD against my beloved Cowboys.

Newman deserves some props, but he isn't Deon....not even close.

 

[KoRn_BoYz_5]

What I like most about T-New is how far his tackling has come. I remember him basically dancing around a guy his rookie season, like he didn't know what to do. Now he chases guys down, makes wrap up tackles...I want to see him put a lick on somebody someday.

Remember the Bronco's game? he laid Plummer out when he was going to the side lines, i thought it was Roy at first cuz it was so clean but naw it was TNew

 

[Zman5]

I appreciate Newman, but there's no corner, no DB of any position, that I'd take over DeRonde Barber of Tampa Bay.

I certainly wouldn't put Newman in Deon's neighborhood just because he covers well. Newman doesn't make the INTs or strike mortal terror into QBs when they even think of throwing to his side of the field. He's had 1 good punt return, which doesn't put him in Deon's league as perhaps the most feared punt returner ever. And....lining up at WR for one running play doesn't compare either. I was in Atlanta when Deon took a little swing pass and high stepped down the sideline for about 65 yards for a TD against my beloved Cowboys.

Newman deserves some props, but he isn't Deon....not even close.

That's Ronde Barber.

 

[Gordon]

Bailey has a lot of picks, but he got abused by Terrell Owens and has allowed at least three touchdowns despite missing several games.

He was playing hurt against T.O.

 

[AdamJT13]

He was playing hurt against T.O.

What does that have to do with it? It doesn't change the fact that Bailey was abused by Owens and beaten for touchdowns by Burress and Keyshawn, as well. Ronde Barber has been beaten deep and beaten for a touchdown, too. But try to find another starting cornerback this season who hasn't allowed a touchdown catch or a single completion longer than 23 yards. I'm guessing Newman is the only one.

 

[TwentyOne]

What does that have to do with it? It doesn't change the fact that Bailey was abused by Owens and beaten for touchdowns by Burress and Keyshawn, as well. Ronde Barber has been beaten deep and beaten for a touchdown, too. But try to find another starting cornerback this season who hasn't allowed a touchdown catch or a single completion longer than 23 yards. I'm guessing Newman is the only one.

So playing hurt doesn't mean anything?

Sorry but just look at Henry. Especially for a CB who has to rely on his physical skills IMO it can be a very big difference if he is hurt.

 

[TwentyOne]

What i can't understand is that people are so facinated by TNEW and his ability to tackle/hit players. I have the feeling that for him it is the only thing he has to do to make people think he is a good CB.

Sure it is nice to have a CB who can tackle and deliver a hit or two. But this is not something i would measure a CB with. If i would look for a CB to add to my team it for sure would be one who could cover. Tackling is second if not third. I don't need a CB who can deliver hits or plays the run well. Sure nice if he can help out but if he has to take on RBs then something else is wrong: OLB or DE missed something. So i better get some better players at that position then to sacrify my CB.

A CB is meassured by his covering skills not by his tackling ability. So as good as TNEW is at tackling players, it doesn't make him a good CB because of that.

 

[AdamJT13]

So playing hurt doesn't mean anything?

Sorry but just look at Henry. Especially for a CB who has to rely on his physical skills IMO it can be a very big difference if he is hurt.

I didn't say it doesn't make players struggle more. Bailey might be having a worse season than if he was completely healthy, but that doesn't change the fact that he's been burned several times this season. For whatever reason, Bailey hasn't been a shutdown cornerback this season, period. That doesn't mean he's not a great player, it just means that he's been burned several times.

 

[AdamJT13]

What i can't understand is that people are so facinated by TNEW and his ability to tackle/hit players. I have the feeling that for him it is the only thing he has to do to make people think he is a good CB.

Yeah, that's it. People think he's good because he can hit a little. Not because he has shut down the opponent for 13 straight games.

 

[scottsp]

T.O. had three catches in that game at Invesco. One was a 91 yarder, a short pass turned into a big gainer. That was not Bailey's play to make. I specifically remember that play.

The Keyshawn TD was also questionable. The play was set up to take advantage of Bailey jumping the flat route. Hence, the pump by Bledsoe before throwing to the endzone. That was not man coverage called on the play. Corners aren't going to freelance that shallow. Dallas caught them in that coverage again and the safety didn't get over to make the play.

 

[JonJon]

I also noticed that Newman is comparable to Deion, even down to the running style, he even has that towel that Deion used to wear, but I agree, he is not Neon Deion just yet...Like another psoter said, he needs to llok for the ball more. Deion in his prime had the ability to hunt the ball even when it wasn't thrown in his direction. But Newman is approaching Prime Time status. All he needs now is to return an interception or two for touchdowns to strike fear into opposing QBs. A nice head scarf wouldn't hurt either....

 

[AdamJT13]

T.O. had three catches in that game at Invesco. One was a 91 yarder, a short pass turned into a big gainer. That was not Bailey's play to make. I specifically remember that play.

Not Bailey's play to make?? Owens caught a short curl right in front of Bailey at the 13, juked him at the 15 and raced down the sideline for a touchdown. Bailey couldn't get any more responsible for that play.

The Keyshawn TD was also questionable. The play was set up to take advantage of Bailey jumping the flat route. Hence, the pump by Bledsoe before throwing to the endzone. That was not man coverage called on the play. Corners aren't going to freelance that shallow. Dallas caught them in that coverage again and the safety didn't get over to make the play.

So you're claiming Bailey played that correctly? Please. The fact is, Bailey bought the fake throw to Glenn and ran 4 yards forward as Keyshawn ran right past him for the TD catch. And given where Lynch was lined up before the snap, it would have been impossible for him to be responsible for covering a receiver down the sideline on such a short field (from the 14-yard line). That was Bailey's mistake, plain and simple.

 

[JackMagist]

I'm glad to see Newman getting the props he deserves here; he took a lot of heat last year that I thought was undeserved. Now he is playing great and I would take him over any CB in the league right now. He is covering his guys so tight that they are not even throwing his way; that forces the opponents to play on Henry's side of the field and Henry is getting the picks.

Comparing Newman to Bailey; Bailey is getting more picks because his coverage is not as tight so they throw his way but at the same time Bailey is also getting burned on a somewhat regular basis. Newman is not getting burned or even challenged because with his tight coverage he leaves no room for them to throw. I'll take Newman shutting down half the field every time.

 

[scottsp]

Wrong on both counts. Judging by how Bailey played the ball there, Denver was in zone. How the safety lines up has more to do with the formation Dallas ran. We simply had the right play called for that situation.

 

[jbsg02]

Newman hardly ever gets thrown at, he hardly gets chances to make INT's

 

[mperfection]

Deion in his prime is still the best cover corner I have seen play this game in the 40 some odd years of watching Pro football. Newman I consider a very good CB in his own right but not at the same level as Sanders

The voice of experience AND reason. Agreed...although I like TNEW alot. As was previously stated, however, he doesn't play the ball half as well as Anthony Henry.

 

[mperfection]

I appreciate Newman, but there's no corner, no DB of any position, that I'd take over DeRonde Barber of Tampa Bay.

I certainly wouldn't put Newman in Deon's neighborhood just because he covers well. Newman doesn't make the INTs or strike mortal terror into QBs when they even think of throwing to his side of the field. He's had 1 good punt return, which doesn't put him in Deon's league as perhaps the most feared punt returner ever. And....lining up at WR for one running play doesn't compare either. I was in Atlanta when Deon took a little swing pass and high stepped down the sideline for about 65 yards for a TD against my beloved Cowboys.
Newman deserves some props, but he isn't Deon....not even close.

I remember that game...it was in November, 1993. A game we should have won. Emmitt left the game early with an injury.

 

[dalengal]

i like t-new too. he's is just like 'prime time' but a monster hitter and tackler.

 

[morasp]

The voice of experience AND reason. Agreed...although I like TNEW alot. As was previously stated, however, he doesn't play the ball half as well as Anthony Henry.

I would agree with that for Newman last year. This year although he doesn't get thrown at much, he plays the ball very well with the exception of a few quick slants which I remember being the play Deion would get beat on also. When they have thrown the ball at Newman he's had multiple break-ups. I attribute a lot of this to Aaron Glenn and Todd Bowles coaching.