Texas and Baylor vie for receiver talent... and the under dog is winning recruits

[ABQCOWBOY]

Hey, as an OU fan, I'm glad Mack Brown is still coaching the Longhorns ..... but if you think Mack isn't getting out coached, then you are drinking the kool aid.

On a similar note, I think at one time Bob Stoops was an incredible college coach, but he has gotten a little bit complacent over the last few years and it is showing in a negative manner north of the Red River too. Ole Bobby has gotten out coached several times himself in the past few years too and it is starting to get old.

Maybe you should actually read the posts.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

I actually like Josh McDaniels but I do not think he would be a very good fit for Texas. He has no ties to recruiting in Texas (or really anywhere), he has spent a total of season as a Graduate Assistant at Michigan St. and nowhere else, ever. He jumped right from that to the NFL. He has no real NCAA experience. To put him in charge of one of the biggest programs in the entire NCAA, if not the biggest, would be a serious mistake IMO. Yeah, he knows football but as I have said earlier, the Texas job is about a LOT more then just Football.


No, I think the guys that would be good fits at Texas are Muschamp, Patterson, Kirby Smart, Charlie Strong, Chris Peterson and possibly a guy like Brady Hoke or Jerry Grey.

I think that any of those guys would be good fits at Texas. JMO

I agree with you on Muschamp, he would make a heck of a HC for Texas. I'm not sure that McDaniels would have the recruiting difficulties that you are insinuating. I'm sure there would be quite an allure with his prior NFL success.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I agree with you on Muschamp, he would make a heck of a HC for Texas. I'm not sure that McDaniels would have the recruiting difficulties that you are insinuating. I'm sure there would be quite an allure with his prior NFL success.

The problem is that when you are young, you listen to your Coaches, AAU guys, people who have relations with other Coaches at various Universities. Not saying it's always that way but a lot of the time it is. If you don't have relationships at the grass roots level of HS Ball, it's going to hurt you.

 

[Aikbach]

UT fans need not fret about incompetent recruiting awards, that belongs to Kevin Steele, Baylor's darkest hour in the Big 12, in 1997 or 98 he failed to recruit Drew Brees (as did every other Texas university) but Brees had expressed interest in Baylor as his brother had committed to play baseball for the Bears.

Simultaneously in the same time frame Steele refused to offer a scholarship to local Waco product LaDanian Tomlinson who had expressed desire to stay in his hometown.

The prospect of Brees and Tomlinson in a collegiate backfield predating their stint in San Diego could've been a reality in the hands of a competent coach.

Alas that kind of poor judgement is why the dark clouds settled over Baylor football for a decade.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

The problem is that when you are young, you listen to your Coaches, AAU guys, people who have relations with other Coaches at various Universities. Not saying it's always that way but a lot of the time it is. If you don't have relationships at the grass roots level of HS Ball, it's going to hurt you.

I understand your point, but think you might be over valuing these grass roots relationships. Young people are also swayed by perception of a college or flashy things during recruiting.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I understand your point, but think you might be over valuing these grass roots relationships. Young people are also swayed by perception of a college or flashy things during recruiting.

No doubt they are but I'll tell you now Son, I am not over estimating the sway grass roots relationships have on young recruits. If anything, I'm not giving it enough due.


As an example, you know, Jahlil Okafor, the top rated recruit in the class of 2014 had North Carolina on his list of top choices. It's well known that he and Tyus Jones are a package deal. Jones does not like Carolina but instead, likes Duke. I.E., Okafor removed Carolina. It's just one of those things and the Jones/Duke thing comes from his AAU relationship with Howard Pulley, who has very close ties to Duke and Krzyzewski. Why does Carolina not have those ties? They used to. Harrison Barnes was also a Pulley guy and as you know, he signed with Carolina. The Pulley Staff never liked the way Williams handled Barnes and as a result, Jones is not considering Carolina.

Those are the kinds of things that shape recruiting. I don't think you can underestimate that, especially with young people. They tend to base decisions on things that you just can't always know about. That's how it is.

 

[Kangaroo]

If I was parent of a top wr talent in the state of Texas I would want my son to go 1 of 3 places because of the type of offense they run. Baylor, A&M and TexasTech

The last two only because of their new coaches and the offenses they run.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If I was parent of a top wr talent in the state of Texas I would want my son to go 1 of 3 places because of the type of offense they run. Baylor, A&M and TexasTech

The last two only because of their new coaches and the offenses they run.

I agree with that. If I was a RB, I would want him to go to Texas. The Offenses, at this point, are conducive to that. Now, with the Major taking over, that might change but that remains to be seen.