Texas Longhorns and who will be the next coach

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And some scouts think Baylor may produce as many as four first round picks this coming April.

C Richardson - Lache Seastrunk

possible

name the other 2 please
 

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the only reason Teaff stayed because he was a average coach 83–74–4 in conference

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Bowls4–4

give Briles some big money and its bye bye BEARS
 

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And some scouts think Baylor may produce as many as four first round picks this coming April.

C Richardson - Lache Seastrunk

possible

name the other 2 please

Personally, I doubt Sestrunk is a 1st round pick but I suppose it's possible. I'd say, as of now, he's probably the 3rd or 4th rated RB in the country. It happens, taking 3 rbs in the 1st round but the value is not usually at RB and this year, I'm pretty sure that RB is not going to be the value in the 1st round. It's going to be OT, QB and CB IMO.
 

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New contract for Art Briles; What happens next?
Saturday, December 9, 2006

As Chronicle colleague Michael Murphy reports, Briles is expected to sign a new a new five-year contract today that will keep him at Houston through the 2011 season. Details of the contract will be revealed later today. All in all, it should to be a nice set-up for Briles, who led the Cougars (10-3) to the 2006 Conference USA title and a berth in the LIberty Bowl to be played on Dec. 29.
As I’m sure most of you already know, there were those rumors swirling around about Briles taking the head coaching job at Texas Tech if current Red Raider coach Mike Leach bolted for Miami. Of course, with Miami deciding to hire defensive coordinator Randy Shannon on Thursday, the rumors have been put to rest for good and Briles is secure as Houston head coach.

hmmmmm MORE MONEY at Baylor just wait
 

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the only reason Teaff stayed because he was a average coach 83–74–4 in conference

170–151–8

Bowls4–4

give Briles some big money and its bye bye BEARS
Truly an informed opinion...
 

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the only reason Teaff stayed because he was a average coach 83–74–4 in conference

170–151–8

Bowls4–4

give Briles some big money and its bye bye BEARS
Your axe is always ready to grind, perhaps the number one and two leading receivers in the FBS come to mind in tevin Reese and Antwan Goodley, as does safety/ linebacker hybrid Ahmad Dixon.
 

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Truly an informed opinion...

I was there

Arkansas love beating them every year

perhaps the number one and two leading receivers in the FBS come to mind in

tevin Reese number 20 609 yards

and

Antwan Goodley number 7 679 yards

yes your well informed for a BAYLOR biggest fan award bye bye have fun telling every
 
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the only reason Teaff stayed because he was a average coach 83–74–4 in conference

170–151–8

Bowls4–4

give Briles some big money and its bye bye BEARS

I'm certainly no Baylor apologist, but Teaff did an amazing job with what he had to work with given his recruiting limitations...

He wasn't an average coach, he was a VERY good coach...

You are doing the traditional apples to oranges...
 

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Hey, I have an idea. Let's get back on topic and stop with the asinine comments about education and employment level. Thanks!
 

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Personally, I doubt Sestrunk is a 1st round pick but I suppose it's possible. I'd say, as of now, he's probably the 3rd or 4th rated RB in the country. It happens, taking 3 rbs in the 1st round but the value is not usually at RB and this year, I'm pretty sure that RB is not going to be the value in the 1st round. It's going to be OT, QB and CB IMO.

Seastrunk undoubtedly has R1 talent but RB is a position that is heinously undervalued.
Baylor has done a very good job with producing talent but only Bears would whisper their names in the same sentence with Bama who puts out NFL caliber players at virtually every position group on the field every year.

Baylor's biggest issue imho is after this year. They lose A LOT of guys at once and Briles value is at it's peak.
Much like Sumlin at TAMU the smart move for them is to cash in.
Maybe it's cash in to stay but the bigger bet is cash in for a top 10 overall program like USC/UTAustin.

Elsewise... on topic.
Looking forward to my Red Raiders playing WVU.
The Mountaineers have been a great Big 12 addition even if they are down a bit in football right now.
 

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Much like Sumlin at TAMU the smart move for them is to cash in.

You can keep saying this, but there's no reason for Sumlin to leave A&M. He's building a powerful program there, recruiting well, and in the best overall conference in the nation. A&M's got a rabid fanbase and that translates into alot of money (record-setting $740M in donations this past year, versus UT's program record $453M) for the program. What is his incentive to leave A&M? He's managed to do well with quarterbacks other than Manziel in the past, yet you think he just got lucky and will never win another game after Manziel's gone? Are you serious?

I just don't see him leaving for another NCAA program at this time. NFL, maybe, if he has some personal goal to be a head coach there. But he's in the best possible situation for himself as he can be in the NCAA, IMO.
 

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Seastrunk undoubtedly has R1 talent but RB is a position that is heinously undervalued.
Baylor has done a very good job with producing talent but only Bears would whisper their names in the same sentence with Bama who puts out NFL caliber players at virtually every position group on the field every year.

Baylor's biggest issue imho is after this year. They lose A LOT of guys at once and Briles value is at it's peak.
Much like Sumlin at TAMU the smart move for them is to cash in.
Maybe it's cash in to stay but the bigger bet is cash in for a top 10 overall program like USC/UTAustin.

Elsewise... on topic.
Looking forward to my Red Raiders playing WVU.
The Mountaineers have been a great Big 12 addition even if they are down a bit in football right now.
They lose what they always lose, a runningback, and a wideout or more, and top linemen.

They've had to replace RG3, Terrance Williams, Kendall Wright, Josh Gordon, and both of Peyton Manning's centers on the Denver depth chart.
They always do, and this time they don't have to replace the QB, an unprecedented two years with the same QB come 2014.

As for Briles, his value is not at its peak, you're simply paying attention to him, perhaps your personal interest is peaking.
He's got a new stadium to open next year, and a top flight recruiting class to plug into his system. It will be business as usual but in new digs.

PS Usc and UT aren't top ten programs right now, but in another week or so it looks like Briles' current job will be.
 

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You can keep saying this, but there's no reason for Sumlin to leave A&M. He's building a powerful program there, recruiting well, and in the best overall conference in the nation. A&M's got a rabid fanbase and that translates into alot of money (record-setting $740M in donations this past year, versus UT's program record $453M) for the program. What is his incentive to leave A&M? He's managed to do well with quarterbacks other than Manziel in the past, yet you think he just got lucky and will never win another game after Manziel's gone? Are you serious?

I just don't see him leaving for another NCAA program at this time. NFL, maybe, if he has some personal goal to be a head coach there. But he's in the best possible situation for himself as he can be in the NCAA, IMO.

Unless he goes pro he is not leaving, it is a lateral move to go to another school unless he has a falling out, he's safe so don't fret.

The NFL is probably his only siren.
 

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Seastrunk undoubtedly has R1 talent but RB is a position that is heinously undervalued.
Baylor has done a very good job with producing talent but only Bears would whisper their names in the same sentence with Bama who puts out NFL caliber players at virtually every position group on the field every year.

Baylor's biggest issue imho is after this year. They lose A LOT of guys at once and Briles value is at it's peak.
Much like Sumlin at TAMU the smart move for them is to cash in.
Maybe it's cash in to stay but the bigger bet is cash in for a top 10 overall program like USC/UTAustin.

Elsewise... on topic.
Looking forward to my Red Raiders playing WVU.
The Mountaineers have been a great Big 12 addition even if they are down a bit in football right now.

I am not sure about Seastrunk. I mean, his stock could go up, just depending and we all know stuff changes after the combine. If he runs a fast time, he might vault into the top 2 backs or so. I don't see more then 2 backs going in the 1st round this year so I think that hurts him. Right now, and this will absolutely change, as we both know, I see it like De'Anthony Thomas, Ka'Deem Carey, James Wilder, Melvin Gordon, Antonio Andrews and Seastrunk in no particular order. I think Andrews, Carey, Wilder and Gordon will all be solidly ranked ahead of Seastrunk, if they all decide to come out. Any of the others may also be ranked ahead but who knows. The fact that Seastrunk doesn't show up in the passing game a lot hurts him IMO.

High Tide raises all boats in the Big 12 right now and because Texas does not have their coaching situation nailed down, all the other schools in the Big 12 benefit from that. However, that situation will not stay that way forever and after next year, I kinda thing that the situation starts swinging back the other way. That is going to impact schools like Baylor IMO. I could see Briles or Sumlin move on but I can't see Briles going to Texas. That's just not a fit for a whole bunch of reasons IMO. However, I could see him going elsewhere. The thing that is interesting to me is if Sumlin moves on, and that could happen, would Briles get consideration at TAM and would he be interested? TAM could pay him more, the SEC call could be powerful and it's certainly a step up for him IMO. I wonder if that could happen?

I love WV, except when we play them. I think they are a great addition as well. They are going fit in perfectly and the next few years will start to help develop rivalries. They were definitely a great addition.

Good luck this weekend. We need Tech to be unbeaten when we play them so I'm pulling for both Baylor and Tech to come into the Texas game undefeated. Course, only one of you can be but whichever one is is OK with me.
 

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They lose what they always lose, a runningback, and a wideout or more, and top linemen.

They've had to replace RG3, Terrance Williams, Kendall Wright, Josh Gordon, and both of Peyton Manning's centers on the Denver depth chart.
They always do, and this time they don't have to replace the QB, an unprecedented two years with the same QB come 2014.

As for Briles, his value is not at its peak, you're simply paying attention to him, perhaps your personal interest is peaking.
He's got a new stadium to open next year, and a top flight recruiting class to plug into his system. It will be business as usual but in new digs.

PS Usc and UT aren't top ten programs right now, but in another week or so it looks like Briles' current job will be.

Has nothing to do with where the state of the current programs are right now. The Texas and the USC jobs are the top two college football jobs in the Nation IMO. You might be able to sneak in Ohio State there but honestly, I think it's Texas and then USC, in that order. I will grant you, Baylor is doing great but they are not and will not be one of the top 10 programs or Jobs in College Football any time soon IMO.

Too many factors that prevent that from happening.
 

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You can keep saying this, but there's no reason for Sumlin to leave A&M. He's building a powerful program there, recruiting well, and in the best overall conference in the nation. A&M's got a rabid fanbase and that translates into alot of money (record-setting $740M in donations this past year, versus UT's program record $453M) for the program. What is his incentive to leave A&M? He's managed to do well with quarterbacks other than Manziel in the past, yet you think he just got lucky and will never win another game after Manziel's gone? Are you serious?

I just don't see him leaving for another NCAA program at this time. NFL, maybe, if he has some personal goal to be a head coach there. But he's in the best possible situation for himself as he can be in the NCAA, IMO.

I don't agree with this. There are jobs in College Football that are substantially better then TAM and that's not even a question. Will he leave, I don't know but there are certainly better opportunities out there for him in College Football, should he want to test the waters. Sumlin is making something like 3 Million a year. A school like Texas or USC could offer him 5 Million a year and it would be a bargain for either of them, with regards to Salary.

The 740M raised this season is not going to continue but I grant you, it's impressive. TAMs previous record was something like 300 M and when Johnny Football leaves the program, which is probably after this season, TAM is probably going back to something close to that figure again. Keep in mind that the 453M you reference for UT is not the complete picture. That is only direct Football revenue. The LHN is not a part of that number and that is a huge bump towards the Texas Program as well.

I do agree with you thou, on the relevance of the NFL, with regards to Sumlin. There are several NFL teams who apparently hold Sumlin in high regard. It will not be long before they start calling on him.
 

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The LHN contract with UT pays them $300M for 20 years. That equates to $15M per year. Even adding that to the $453M, you are well short of A&M's amount. Both A&M's figures and UT's figures are donations to the overall school, not football revenue.

I also don't think the LHN will be in existence in 20 year's time. It's a failure of a network by all accounts, with not enough diversity of programming to attract anybody except die-hard UT fans. And there's not enough of those to justify a national network. You think the general population in Michigan, Washington state, etc., really care enough about UT to want that channel? I don't.

But you're right, this may be a one-year anomaly for A&M's donations. It is significant though, and I expect in the coming years the numbers will be roughly equal to what UT pulls. A&M will continue to fill the expanded Kyle Field (already sold out for season tickets before it's even been built) for years and years to come.

I don't agree with you that there are better jobs in college football *FOR* Kevin Sumlin. There's nothing that's set up better than the situation at A&M right now, for him, program-wise. Even if he gets a big offer like you're suggesting, I would bet you it's matched at A&M.

And I'm not sure even the UT job is a better coaching position than the A&M job at the moment, for ANYBODY, in all honesty.
 
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