Texas losing big to BYU?

[Aikbach]

Ok you obviously write for Conan with posts like this.

Haven't been with that show in half a dozen years...but we have a pretty good sense of humor at Baylor, the university just released this publicity meme in response to the upcoming ULM game where Duck Dynasty will be in attendance.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Haven't been with that show in half a dozen years...but we have a pretty good sense of humor at Baylor, the university just released this publicity meme in response to the upcoming ULM game where Duck Dynasty will be in attendance.

I love DD. Who is ULM? I should know but am drawing a blank & too lazy to look up.

 

[Aikbach]

I love DD. Who is ULM? I should know but am drawing a blank & too lazy to look up.

Louisiana - Monroe. Feisty little school that beat Arkansas last year when Arky was still ranked, almost beat Auburn and played Baylor tough at home too.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

Louisiana - Monroe. Feisty little school that beat Arkansas last year when Arky was still ranked, almost beat Auburn and played Baylor tough at home too.

You know what the Duck Dynasty connection to ULM is right?

 

[Aikbach]

You know what the Duck Dynasty connection to ULM is right?

All i know is they attend their games.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

All i know is they attend their games.

Willie, the one that kinda runs the business, played there. And their dad, Phil, was a star QB there with Terry Bradshaw as his backup. Phil turned down an NFL contract because he was more into duck hunting.

The did a piece on last sun's FOX pregame, w/ Bradshaw interviewing Phil.

 

[Aikbach]

Willie, the one that kinda runs the business, played there. And their dad, Phil, was a star QB there with Terry Bradshaw as his backup. Phil turned down an NFL contract because he was more into duck hunting.

The did a piece on last sun's FOX pregame, w/ Bradshaw interviewing Phil.

I thought Bradshaw played at LA Tech...ironically Bradshaw once said he almost went to Baylor instead, six degrees of separation between all these people it seems.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

I thought Bradshaw played at LA Tech...ironically Bradshaw once said he almost went to Baylor instead, six degrees of separation between all these people it seems.

You're right. LA Tech.
Link

It was the son, Willie that is a ULM grad.
Link

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Louisiana - Monroe. Feisty little school that beat Arkansas last year when Arky was still ranked, almost beat Auburn and played Baylor tough at home too.

Thanks. I had no idea that city had a college.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Looks like Swoops will get the start for Texas against KSU this week.

Won't matter if somebody doesn't figure out how to tackle.

 

[Aikbach]

Looks like Swoops will get the start for Texas against KSU this week.

Won't matter if somebody doesn't figure out how to tackle.

Is Swoops any good? I heard his stock fell substantially after his senior year.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Is Swoops any good? I heard his stock fell substantially after his senior year.

I haven't really seen him but they say, in the Spring Scrimmage, he lit it up against the 1st team D. Of course, that sounds a lot better then it might be, now that we've actually seen the 1st team D.

If it means anything, Conner transferred, supposedly, because it was made clear that Swoops would be the guy. Don't know if that's a true rumor or not but that is the rumor I heard.

 

[Rogah]

I never said he would leave for the NFL. I said if he left, it would be for the NFL and I do believe that. Texas doesn't need Saban. Texas needs to go out and find a good young coach that they can build with.

That all sounds well and good, but any such "good young coach" is going to be a complete unknown. I don't think for a second it is going to happen, but Saban is a known commodity and a proven champion. The Texas Board of Governors would do backflips if they thought it would help bring him to Austin. They would take him in a heartbeat over some generic "good young coach."

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

That all sounds well and good, but any such "good young coach" is going to be a complete unknown. I don't think for a second it is going to happen, but Saban is a known commodity and a proven champion. The Texas Board of Governors would do backflips if they thought it would help bring him to Austin. They would take him in a heartbeat over some generic "good young coach."

I don't agree with this. I mean, I understand the reasoning but it doesn't necessarily have to be that way. For example, lets say Texas hired Sumlin (not saying they are going to do that but just as example), he would not be an unknown and he would be young enough to stay with the program for a considerable length of time. There are options out there for young coaches.

 

[Aggie87]

If you're Sumlin there's no reason to go to Texas though - he's got the best possible situation he could have as a college coach right now. A possible bump in pay really isn't that big a deal, I'd be willing to bet, as compared to the ability to play in (and recruit for) the SEC.

The only thing that would draw him away from A&M currently might be the NFL, if he thinks his system could be successful there. I'd bet he's got a close eye on the Chip Kelly experiment in Philly to see how it works out.

And I see no incentive for Saban to want to move to Austin either, for that matter. What's his incentive? He's at an age where he's got a perfect system in place, making more than plenty of money, and will be legendary in Alabama just like Bear Bryant. He won't be able to replicate that in Austin in the Big 12, and surely that weighs on his mind.

Texas needs an up and coming coach that's currently a coordinator somewhere, or a coach that's been very successful at a smaller program, and is hungry and ready to make the step up to a big time program that he can build - in that sense I agree with ABQCowboy.

 

[jterrell]

I don't agree with this. I mean, I understand the reasoning but it doesn't necessarily have to be that way. For example, lets say Texas hired Sumlin (not saying they are going to do that but just as example), he would not be an unknown and he would be young enough to stay with the program for a considerable length of time. There are options out there for young coaches.

Tom Hicks has already reached out to Saban's agent.
UT will shoot for Saban and those of that ilk first.
Guys that can walk in and win and RECRUIT TEXAS.

Saban, Briles et al.

THEN if that doesn't pan out they'll target younger, less proven coaches.

Make no mistake target 1 is Saban. That's not a guess when regents have already spoken to his agent.

Saban has stated he is too old to start over. I believe him, which means he'll either stay at Bama or go somewhere he can walk in and win.
For all of UTs problems they have talent on campus. Top 10 in the country talent and Saban would have top ranked classes every year same as at Alabama.
Except he'd have a nice 20 acre ranch in the Hill Country to retire to instead of some property in Alabama.

 

[jterrell]

If you're Sumlin there's no reason to go to Texas though - he's got the best possible situation he could have as a college coach right now. A possible bump in pay really isn't that big a deal, I'd be willing to bet, as compared to the ability to play in (and recruit for) the SEC.

The only thing that would draw him away from A&M currently might be the NFL, if he thinks his system could be successful there. I'd bet he's got a close eye on the Chip Kelly experiment in Philly to see how it works out.

And I see no incentive for Saban to want to move to Austin either, for that matter. What's his incentive? He's at an age where he's got a perfect system in place, making more than plenty of money, and will be legendary in Alabama just like Bear Bryant. He won't be able to replicate that in Austin in the Big 12, and surely that weighs on his mind.

Texas needs an up and coming coach that's currently a coordinator somewhere, or a coach that's been very successful at a smaller program, and is hungry and ready to make the step up to a big time program that he can build - in that sense I agree with ABQCowboy.

If UT wants Sumlin they can get him. It'll just take 10-12m a year. That a 300-400% raise. But UT gets to steal ATM's guy.

The Saban stuff is just untrue. 1st, he'll never be Bear Bryant. 2nd, he could easily earn the same accolades at UT.
And again the difference is really just where you live.
Gene Stallings was wildly popular in Bama but he retired to a ranch in Texas.

Saban could spend 4 years in Austin, make 50m and walk off to a beautiful ranch ion the Hill Country.
That's light years more appealing to most than anything in Alabama.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Tom Hicks has already reached out to Saban's agent.
UT will shoot for Saban and those of that ilk first.
Guys that can walk in and win and RECRUIT TEXAS.

Saban, Briles et al.

THEN if that doesn't pan out they'll target younger, less proven coaches.

Make no mistake target 1 is Saban. That's not a guess when regents have already spoken to his agent.

Saban has stated he is too old to start over. I believe him, which means he'll either stay at Bama or go somewhere he can walk in and win.
For all of UTs problems they have talent on campus. Top 10 in the country talent and Saban would have top ranked classes every year same as at Alabama.
Except he'd have a nice 20 acre ranch in the Hill Country to retire to instead of some property in Alabama.

I saw this reported on ESPN but I also saw a report that said this is a lot of nothing. I have heard zero mention of Briles. If you have something on that, I would interested to see it. I have said all along that I don't see Saban coming to Texas but I guess we'll see.

 

[rkell87]

Is Swoops any good? I heard his stock fell substantially after his senior year.

It did but iirc he lost some vet WRs in his senior year and people couldn't catch the ball so they focused on keeping him from running. I think he did well in the camps though.

 

[Rogah]

I don't agree with this. I mean, I understand the reasoning but it doesn't necessarily have to be that way. For example, lets say Texas hired Sumlin (not saying they are going to do that but just as example), he would not be an unknown and he would be young enough to stay with the program for a considerable length of time. There are options out there for young coaches.

I disagree. He would be an unknown. He has no experience at a program with the size and importance and constant championship expectations of Texas. Yes, he had a good year at A&M with a Heisman Trophy QB playing for him. That doesn't mean he can make Texas national champions.

Don't get me wrong.... Texas may ultimately be going with a rising coach just like Sumlin. But they would much rather have Saban, no doubt about it.