Thank god we didn't draft Bosa

[LatinMind]

This guy is something else. The chargers ocfered him a contract that would given him the 2nd most cash yr one amongst rookies. And he rejected. This guy is a idiot.

 

[Beats_By_Zeke]

Does he just not want to play there? Or is all about money with him?

 

[Tabascocat]

I hope he gets back into the draft pool, taken in the 3rd round(loses a lot more money) due to his douchness and has to play in Cleveland!

 

[Sydla]

The initial issue was that the Chargers wanted to spread the bonus out over two years and wanted offset language in the contract that allowed the Chargers to recoup monies in case Bosa was cut and signed with another team. Initially it was said Bosa would agree to one but not both the conditions. Seems now the Chargers have agreed to give him more signing bonus upfront but that doesn't appear to be enough now.

FWIW, Wentz and Elliott have the offset and the deferred bonus language in their contracts.

 

[John813]

Boy, not a good way to start your career with the team that drafted you.

Per the Chargers' release, the offer included.

» "An initial signing bonus payment that is larger than any player in the League has received in the last two drafts."

» "More money in this calendar year than every player in this year's draft except one (QB Carson Wentz)."

» "The largest payment and the highest percentage of signing bonus received in the first calendar year of any Chargers' first-round selection since the inception of the current Collective Bargaining Agreement (2011)."

Per source: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ers-issue-statement-on-joey-bosa-negotiations

Wonder if someone from Bosas camp will give a statement.

 

[Longboysfan]

Next Year... I hope he gets drafted by Cleveland!

fixed it.

 

[Sydla]

Boy, not a good way to start your career with the team that drafted you.

Per the Chargers' release, the offer included.

» "An initial signing bonus payment that is larger than any player in the League has received in the last two drafts."

» "More money in this calendar year than every player in this year's draft except one (QB Carson Wentz)."

» "The largest payment and the highest percentage of signing bonus received in the first calendar year of any Chargers' first-round selection since the inception of the current Collective Bargaining Agreement (2011)."

Per source: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ers-issue-statement-on-joey-bosa-negotiations

Wonder if someone from Bosas camp will give a statement.

Yep. If the earlier reports were true that Bosa's camp either wanted the offset language OR the deferred bonus language out, it would appear they look like tools here now. Because the Chargers seemed to have backed off the deferred bonus money, since they claim they would pay him the most signing bonus money of any player in the last two drafts.

 

[DFWJC]

The agency that represents him asks for the same thing for all of their clients.
They have gotten it from all of them except for the Chargers.

I'm sure they are worried if they give in now, then that's it.

Dealings like this normally are not specifically the players asking for this or that. it is the agency representing him
Now, I guess he could fire his agency...not sure what the penalty would be though.

 

[Primetime42]

The offset money was the issue. Chargers have a history of this.

 

[Kaiser]

He is also completely overrated. This move will be even dumber if he has to take an incentive based deal next year and plays poorly.

 

[cowboys1985]

Man, could you imagine the meltdown here if Dallas was going through this with Bosa? I mean people here are already up in arms with Elliot not playing yet in preseason.

 

[slick325]

The Chargers history can't be erased with this clear attempt to win a PR battle. Sorry Chargers, no one forgets the fact that your franchise QB had to hold out as a rookie as well. That Eli Manning refused to deal with Spanos and crew.

Embarrassing that a team felt they had to openly discuss contract terms via a press release when most teams admonish players for doing so via the media.

Bosa would have been signed by nearly every team in the League except the Chargers, Cardinals and Bengals. Known cheap owners.

 

[Sydla]

The agency that represents him asks for the same thing for all of their clients.
They have gotten it from all of them except for the Chargers.

I'm sure they are worried if they give in now than that's it.

Dealings like this normally are specifically the players asking for this or that. it is the agency representing him
Now, I guess he could fire his agency...not sure what the penalty would be though.

That's somewhat bogus though. They work for Bosa. If Bosa wants to be in camp, he'll be in camp because he can tell his agents to accept the deal. Bosa is on board with that this agency is doing, regardless of whose idea it is.

The reality is other players in this league have accepted the same conditions. Both Wentz and Elliott, for example, have the same language and conditions that Bosa is apparently railing about.

 

[Sydla]

The offset money was the issue. Chargers have a history of this.

Based on their statement, the offset money doesn't appear to be an issue anymore. Bosa will end up with more cash in his pocket this year than any player in the draft other than Wentz and his signing bonus paid this year will be the highest of any first round pick in the last two drafts.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Yep. If the earlier reports were true that Bosa's camp either wanted the offset language OR the deferred bonus language out, it would appear they look like tools here now. Because the Chargers seemed to have backed off the deferred bonus money, since they claim they would pay him the most signing bonus money of any player in the last two drafts.

That's true and I tend to agree with you but it should be noted that the Chargers are the only team in the league not to offer either the offset language or the deferral.

 

[RS12]

Thank god we didn't draft Bosa

You mean you didnt want a weekly we drafted this guy at 4 and he only has 6 sacks thread? We already have that with Claiborne so I coudlnt agree more.

 

[Sydla]

The Chargers history can't be erased with this clear attempt to win a PR battle. Sorry Chargers, no one forgets the fact that your franchise QB had to hold out as a rookie as well. That Eli Manning refused to deal with Spanos and crew.

Embarrassing that a team felt they had to openly discuss contract terms via a press release when most teams admonish players for doing so via the media.

Bosa would have been signed by nearly every team in the League except the Chargers, Cardinals and Bengals. Known cheap owners.

You don't know that for sure. Again, the conditions Bosa was asking for were in both Wentz's and Elliott's contracts per ESPN. So the question is, would Jerry or the Eagles bent on the Bosa demands?

 

[DFWJC]

That's somewhat bogus though. They work for Bosa. If Bosa wants to be in camp, he'll be in camp because he can tell his agents to accept the deal. Bosa is on board with that this agency is doing, regardless of whose idea it is.

The reality is other players in this league have accepted the same conditions. Both Wentz and Elliott, for example, have the same language and conditions that Bosa is apparently railing about.

That's what I just said. If wants to bust their normal deal, he can always fire them or at least threaten to. My guess is he'd need to fire them because they have the rep of getting this (or something like it) for their clients.
The last two holdouts before Bosa were also their clients, but the teams made concessions.

it sounded like they would compromise but still want more percentage wise of the bonus than being offered.

Wentz and Goff had a different agency.

I'm not defending Bosa, btw. Just telling what I know of his agency and representation.

 

[Sydla]

That's true and I tend to agree with you but it should be noted that the Chargers are the only team in the league not to offer either the offset language or the deferral.

You mean they don't offer to waive it?

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Well, not our problem; keep it movin'.