That may go down as the worst 1-side ref hose job as there is

[LocimusPrime]

What's to keep the refs personal biases for or against certain players and teams from affecting their calls on the field?

Do they favor their own home teams or regional teams?

I personally think that the officiating is ok. It's not terrible, but I think it could get better, and yes I agree that fans usually think that their team gets the bad calls. I wonder if any ref has ever been bribed? Just curious.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I'm sure a skins fan could make the same argument. I thought it was pretty even as far as bad and missed calls. They defiantly let the db's play on both teams. As long as they're consistent and IMO they were.

LOL they were far from consistent. They called a very questionable holding call on Vince Mayle which wiped out a TD run by Zeke. Yet the Skins where holding our passrushers many times and the refs never flagged them once. The was also several obvious PI on our receivers, face mask on Beas and and Skins punched someone right in front the ref. Yet not one flag came flying for against the Skins.

It was far from consistent and very lopsided favoring the Skins.

 

[links18]

Lol you're calling the wrong person politically correct. I've watched the game 5 times now. There were missed calls on both sides. Every fan base complains about bad calls and missed calls. Fans around the league are having this same conversation lol. I have friends, who aren't Cowboy fans, tell me all the time that we get lucky calls. You just have to watch it with the same eyes that you watch the Cowboys with. Are there games where one team seems like they're getting the calls? Sure, it happens. Been happening for the 27 years I've been watching the game seriously. The officiating has been bad this year but the one sided against the Cowboys isn't as bad as people claim.

Right, the number of people willing to contemplate actual in game collusion between the refs on the field and mysterious NFL corporate forces to intentionally keep games close is absolutely mind boggling. Football is an incredibly complex sport; the refs are too ill prepared; the rules are too confusing and the game moves too fast to expect much consistency in officiating. I guess its easier to think that there is some master conspiracy to rig things than to accept that refs just get it wrong a good chunk on the time.

 

[ConstantReboot]

No. Maybe if somebody creates a website to document bad calls and to create media interest in bad officiating.

It would be cool to have people that are not fans of either team review games and document their findings of bad calls (i. e. We could do it for non Cowboys games).

I've be willing to build something like that. How will it generate money though?

 

[Little Jr]

LOL they were far from consistent. They called a very questionable holding call on Vince Mayle which wiped out a TD run by Zeke. Yet the Skins where holding our passrushers many times and the refs never flagged them once. The was also several obvious PI on our receivers, face mask on Beas and and Skins punched someone right in front the ref. Yet not one flag came flying for against the Skins.

It was far from consistent and very lopsided favoring the Skins.

Every fan base thinks that the calls went against them lol. Many of the same threads and complaint that are here. If you watch with the same eyes and critisizm as you you do with the Cowboys you'll see missed and bad calls happen on both sides of the ball. Occasionally it will be tilted to one side but it wasn't this game. They missed calls on both sides. I actually liked it because the let the db's play.

 

[Blackspider214]

How does a team put the ball up 53 times in one game and not get a single holding call?

That DID seem fishy.

Agreed. Especially with the age old saying of 'holding can be called on every play'.

I also didn't agree with the picking up the flag when Dunbar was slammed to the ground. Do I think it necessarily needs to be a flag? Probably not. But it's the rules these days. Didn't get why it was picked up.

 

[ConstantReboot]

The matter of fact is that the entire fan base is upset with the calls. Frankly, I would rather have them be full timers rather than part-time. That way they can actually hone in on their own skills during the weekdays.

To say that the refs aren't bad is an understatement. When ratings are down because of the refs then that says alot about where the NFL needs to focus their efforts.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Every fan base thinks that the calls went against them lol. Many of the same threads and complaint that are here. If you watch with the same eyes and critisizm as you you do with the Cowboys you'll see missed and bad calls happen on both sides of the ball. Occasionally it will be tilted to one side but it wasn't this game. They missed calls on both sides. I actually liked it because the let the db's play.

Ummmm you probably never seen a Patriots or a Pittsburg game before. So I tend to disagree with you.

I didn't see one call that favored the Cowboys in the Skins game. However, there were many missed calls and blatant fouls that weren't called against the Boys.

Say what you must about the refs. Ratings are down because of them. That says alot about why I believe something needs to be done to improve it.

 

[DogFace]

Lol you're calling the wrong person politically correct. I've watched the game 5 times now. There were missed calls on both sides. Every fan base complains about bad calls and missed calls. Fans around the league are having this same conversation lol. I have friends, who aren't Cowboy fans, tell me all the time that we get lucky calls. You just have to watch it with the same eyes that you watch the Cowboys with. Are there games where one team seems like they're getting the calls? Sure, it happens. Been happening for the 27 years I've been watching the game seriously. The officiating has been bad this year but the one sided against the Cowboys isn't as bad as people claim.

Sure there are always missed calls. I don't think that's what these threads are about. They are about the overly blatant calls that make you wonder how they are missed. Op mentioned several with the times posted to let you argue them. Instead of disputing them you say what we all know--bad calls both ways. Maybe show some as egregious to make your point. Some that are hard to argue like have been provided for you.

 

[DogFace]

When Terrance Williams caught that TD pass at the pylon, look at how long it takes the ref literally standing right there to signal touchdown.
It was as if he's thinking "would it be too obvious if I make a call against the Cowboys here"

I was screaming the same thing. My family thinks I'm insane.

 

[DogFace]

Its funny hearing fans complain about the refs. One teams fans think that they got robbed by the refs. And the other teams fans feel the same way.

Officiating wasn't perfect but it wasn't bad yesterday. There were missed calls on both teams.

Can the other fans back to their claims with facts? Egregious tackle holds and face masks? One hold the last two games for the other team seems a little off.
Show some examples so we all feel better. @Yakuza Rich gave several examples that are very hard to dispute. Make your case and try it.

 

[DogFace]

Right, the number of people willing to contemplate actual in game collusion between the refs on the field and mysterious NFL corporate forces to intentionally keep games close is absolutely mind boggling. Football is an incredibly complex sport; the refs are too ill prepared; the rules are too confusing and the game moves too fast to expect much consistency in officiating. I guess its easier to think that there is some master conspiracy to rig things than to accept that refs just get it wrong a good chunk on the time.

Not one person, other than you, has said anything close to that is happening.

 

[Don Corleone]

Ummmm you probably never seen a Patriots or a Pittsburg game before. So I tend to disagree with you.

I didn't see one call that favored the Cowboys in the Skins game. However, there were many missed calls and blatant fouls that weren't called against the Boys.

Say what you must about the refs. Ratings are down because of them. That says alot about why I believe something needs to be done to improve it.

Some argue that the ratings are kept up by the refs and close officiating. If the Cowboys were blowing out the Commanders in the first quarter, people would tune to something else or go look at Black Friday ads.

The rules of the game are written vaguely to allow the refs and the NFL a hand in shaping the outcome. There are also small 5 yard penalties that refs can call that result in an automatic first down. Even if the opposing team has a 3rd down and 20'and misses. Ask yourself why they allow an automatic first down in those cases.

They fully intent to keep games close to keep you watching their advertising. That is how the league makes money.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

How does a team put the ball up 53 times in one game and not get a single holding call?

That DID seem fishy.

I wasn't even looking to get into the officiating calls when I re-watched the game. I thought the officiating was bad because they missed the Beasley facemask and then all of the dirty stuff that Norman was doing and getting away with and then the Jackson slap on Brown.

It was then on a few wide open plays that I wanted to see who was at fault for allowing the player to get open and then I saw illegal picks that were very blatant. And then I saw a few bad holding plays that weren't called and decided to tally them up. This is the 3rd week in a row of horrible officiating against the Cowboys and this was about as 1-sided as it gets.

Great job, Blandino. Your referees can't ref their way out of a wet paper bag.






YR

 

[Yakuza Rich]

No. Maybe if somebody creates a website to document bad calls and to create media interest in bad officiating.

It would be cool to have people that are not fans of either team review games and document their findings of bad calls (i. e. We could do it for non Cowboys games).

I am a fan of the Cowboys obviously, but I was being objective in my assessment. Outside of the Scandrick hold which there was obvious contact, but within the 5-yard limit, I don't think any of the other missed called listed were questionable.

As far as the Dallas 'missed calls', the only ones I saw were illegal contact/defensive holding calls that are questionable given the rule and how refs typically call them. If you're hand fighting but looking at the ball, it's a very judgmental call and it's not like the calls I listed where the player is getting a distinct advantage.

I really think one of the things that has caused the decline in popularity in the league is the inconsistency of the referees and the pick plays. The pick plays make for less interesting football because it's not about 1 great athlete beating another great athlete (or beating 2 great athletes). It's about a football player getting the advantage purely due to schematics and having somebody else get in his way.

I seriously challenge anybody to re-watch the game, point to the specific times of the game and what the penalty was and find egregious missed calls by Dallas like I did.

If anybody truly believes that it was even handed officiating, that's the least they can do.





YR

 

[iceberg]

I'm sure a skins fan could make the same argument. I thought it was pretty even as far as bad and missed calls. They defiantly let the db's play on both teams. As long as they're consistent and IMO they were.

yea, while watching we saw how we got hosed on a few calls but the skins also got hosed as they didn't commit a penalty they got called for and it helped us out a LOT. bad calls are part of the game if you're going to do an in depth analysis and cry foul you better get that picky on BOTH teams.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

What's to keep the refs personal biases for or against certain players and teams from affecting their calls on the field?

Do they favor their own home teams or regional teams?

One can always point to the Tim Donaghy situation.

The FBI conducted their investigation on Donaghy and found that he did NOT fix games that he bet on.

He simply would ask his fellow refs before the game what their thoughts were on a team and certain players and he would get a feel for how the calls were going to go and then bet on the team based on that information and was winning 75% of the time (which is an enormous winning % in sports gambling).

His arrest had to do more with him getting involved with the mob. But the FBI made it clear that they show no evidence of him fixing a game. In fact, he often times ejected star players on teams that he had bet on.

So, I will always have a hard time believing there are no blatant biases from refs in this league. Of course, some may have bias for the Cowboys and against a team.

Whatever the case, this was a 1-sided job and the Cowboys still won.



YR

 

[canters]

It was bad for us....when it is bad it seems to go against us.....it is us against the world at times. And when a Steelers fan says it was bad, it was terrible, no doubt.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

When Terrance Williams caught that TD pass at the pylon, look at how long it takes the ref literally standing right there to signal touchdown.
It was as if he's thinking "would it be too obvious if I make a call against the Cowboys here"

That was a close call and the ref was looking at the scuffs in the field turf. I would much rather he takes his time on something like this than to make a quick judgement. I see zero fault in this play. Sometimes the tinfoil hat stuff is a little ridiculous.

 

[xwalker]

I've be willing to build something like that. How will it generate money though?

Advertising?