That Time Rookie Dak Prescott Faced Multi-MVP Aaron Rodgers - and You Didn't See It

[T-RO]

Late Monday I'll dive into this:

Who was most clutch in that 2016 playoff game: Dak or Aaron?

 

[Kevinicus]

Misleading to count the Packers taking a knee at half as a drive.

 

[T-RO]

Misleading to count the Packers taking a knee at half as a drive.

That didn't happen in the playoff game we are discussing here. You're mis-remembering, or looking at some other game.


Here's the drives/play-by-play:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/playbyplay/_/gameId/400927749

 

[MyFairLady]

Fake news......void of Facts!

Dakota Prescott is statically better than he was in 2016......did Cowboys not Win a playoff game 2022 unlike 2016??

If you don't think that the 2016 offense wasn't superior to the 2022 offense then we have nothing more to discuss.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Again, please, at least for 24 hours in this thread, let's talk only the 2016 season and the playoff game vs. Pack.

And let's focus on becoming better thinkers rather than on protecting our territory...winning some grand debate.

OK, but what truth arrow do you want to throw and what do you want to extrapolate from that data?
Has this any relevance to today, attempting to highlight Dak, or is this an attempt to equate Dak with Rogers?
If anything it establishes that Dak played well (with his 5 first Round picks in their prime) and we still came up short.
Interestingly, if Dak hadn't thrown an incomplete pass with his last throw of the game the clock would have run down and the game gone into OT after Butler's FG.

 

[Kingofholland]

If your science has to revert to data that's 7 years old then it could be construed as out of date?

I'm not convinced this is actually a scientific debate, but just because science may be older doesn't mean it's out of date.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

You all Dak blind loyalists keep starting threads to prop up your hero and try to convince others not to believe your eyes, just this little snippet of a snippet of a career that really shows what he is. LOL, ....and then call everyone who doesn't agree with your short sighted and flawed analysis as being "haters"....not based on facts or evidence, just personal and pure hatred. You even throw any other player or coach under the bus to rationalize his poor performances. Save your breath, we know what he is and not getting any better, actually digressing due to age, injury, money, and ability. No amount of Febreze is gonna cover up this stench.

 

[CowboyoWales]

I'm not convinced this is actually a scientific debate, but just because science may be older doesn't mean it's out of date.

I'm not actually sure the reason behind the thread.... that's the problem.
Oh and science (well actually statistics in this case) can become obsolete. Whatever comment the OP was trying to make is a mystery, but I guess that was the intention.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Late Monday I'll dive into this:

Who was most clutch in that 2016 playoff game: Dak or Aaron?

Rogers, as he orchestrated the final drive. Clutch is a subjective nonentity term like 'elite'. Dak played well, but that's akin to the regular season yards, it's meaningless if the team doesn't win.

Winning's the only stat that counts

 

[Big_D]

They almost won. They almost beat the niners too.. twice. Very impressive!

 

[MyFairLady]

They almost won. They almost beat the niners too.. twice. Very impressive!

LOL is this sarcasm? Talk about your moral victories.

 

[MyFairLady]

Dak was absolutely awesome as a rookie. Far and away the best chance we have had since he took over. Reliable and efficient play making with almost no negative plays. Teams hated playing against our offense. Fast forward 6 years and what do we have. A broke down version of that QB who is afraid to run and leads the entire NFL in INTs despite missing 5 games. In an era where QB ratings just go up and up and up every year our QB can not seem to reach the heights of his rookie season. Any sane person would have to feel some level of disappointment at how things are turning out. One thing I know for sure if he continues to stand in the pocket patting the ball like Drew Bledsoe things are not going to go as well as we all hope.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Often history gets mis-remembered...or forgotten. So let's review the 2016 Divisional Cowboys-Packer Playoff game, shall we?

I like to aim for a scientific, objective approach, though with football it's difficult, if not imposible. We're all humans and football doesn't occur in a lab room. But can we all agree to aim the arrow towards truth? I will bite your leg off if it's obvious you aren't trying.

Cowboys versus Pack...In particular...Dak versus Aaron, January 16, 2017. Are you ready?

Let' start with the little stuff:
Aaron Rodgers: 2 carries, 16 yards
Dak Prescott: 2 carries, 13 yards

More in a bit...

Packers​

10-6, 4-4 AWAY

34
Final

	1	2	3	4	T
GB	7	14	7	6	34
DAL	3	10	0	18	31

Cowboys​

13-3, 7-1 HOME


Once again where was Prescott the 1st 3 Q of the game?
Only 13 points in 3 Q with the best HB and OFFLINE and HOF TE and Dez at home to boot.
The Packers go into prevent def in the 4th Q and guess what Prescott comes alive.
How many times have we seen the above scenario?
Can you say .....Too Many!!!!!
The Cowboys lose again......

 

[Big_D]

LOL is this sarcasm? Talk about your moral victories.

Yes sarcasm. 7 years in the league and an extra possession from his rookie season is still a topic of conversation. We knew the D couldn’t make a stop so I’m not pinning it on Dak. But the only thing that will change the perception of the QB at this point are postseason wins.

 

[5Stars]

Late Monday I'll dive into this:

Who was most clutch in that 2016 playoff game: Dak or Aaron?

Here, this might make you happy if you are still thinking about 7 years ago. Dak is 10 times the QB Aaron is or ever will be. Seven years ago? smfh

 

[removed_20241105]

Still aiming our arrow towards the target of truth, realizing a single playoff game won't tell us ultimate answers, but will leak some precious illumination on facts...let's continue.

If we capture the moment (as scientists do when making records) at :35 where each team and QB had equal opportunity... here is what we find:

Dallas/Dak Prescott: 9 possessions 31 points
Green Bay/Rodgers: 9 possessions, 31 points

And...their comparative passing performance...recorded for all the world:

Aaron, the MVP: 26/39 303 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT
Dak, the rookie: 24/38 302 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT

In QBR...Dak slightly wins this, though I think parsing things at such fine slices is meaningless and trivial

...but there's more.

Did I misread the stats or are you incorrect about Dak winning the QBR? If on me, my bad. It seems Dak had a hirer passer rating which is more passing stats-based but Aaron had the hirer QBR which more closely measures performance.

I also find the enormous running back discrepancy important as well with Zeke vs Ty Montgomery. I think that greatly impacts the QB play.

 

[Shane612]

Is Galileo's discovery of heliocentrism, in the mid 1600's "out of date"? Is Newton's discovery of gravity in 1665 less relevant today?

Of course we aren't engaging in science like that here. We are looking at a case study. Dak Prescott vs. Aaron Rogers, 2016. Piecing the pieces together as best we can.

Can we really say one was better? (Buckle up)

A football game isn't anything like gravity.

 

[MyFairLady]

Dak is seven years in now. He is in the top tier of QB contracts. He needs to put on his big boy pants. The feel good rookie 4th round pick narrative is over. You either get the job done or you are not worth it.

 

[Risen Star]

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

They forgot to list Cousins is 1 and 30 in prime time games…..