The 1 reason why I want Tony Romo to play in a game before the end of the season

Clove

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No, YOU can remember him by going to youtube. I will be in the stadium as I have been and I want to experience that moment.

A business? You work for the team? It's not a business to any of us unless we work for the team. We are fans and we have emotional attachments to teams and players. Saying a player shouldn't be recognized or remembered unless they won a super bowl is so foolish it requires no response.

You won't be there so don't worry about it.
I'll be sitting right in front of my TV where it won't happen. Romo has done nothing for this franchise, nothing. He has 100 big ones in his possession, that isn't enough? An undrafted player who had the world in his hands and did nothing with it.
 

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I'll be sitting right in front of my TV where it won't happen. Romo has done nothing for this franchise, nothing. He has 100 big ones in his possession, that isn't enough? An undrafted player who had the world in his hands and did nothing with it.
While I disagree with you, Clove, on him doing nothing for the franchise, I do agree that feeling he needs some kind of honorary sendoff is ridiculous. The guy has been beyond compensated and given every chance reasonably possible.
 

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I think there is a very good probability that Tony is the best QB on the team and I've voted every time for Tony to start in our polls. But, the Cowboys have decided to go in a different direction and that is why I think Dak should take every snap. Right now, the fans are united behind Dak, we've won 11 in a row, Dak is going to be the QB going forward, so there is no reason to start a QB controversy by putting Tony out there and remind everyone how good he is.

If Dak goes down, Tony's ready. We don't have to worry about that.
 

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Each game is too valuable to Dak at this point in time. If our starters are a go he needs to be in there gaining experience. He has started 12 professional games.
Exactly. If the starters are playing than Dak should play. If the backups are playing I don't know why you'd put Tony in the game to get hurt.
 

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He carried the team where? I'd like to know, because if Super Bowls were involved, I would have liked to be there. The fact is, he's an undrafted player for a reason. He didn't have that IT factor in big games. He shrunk just like his pedigree. Big boys stand up in big games. The same goes for Dak. If he can't take us places in the next 4 years, then my mind shifts to the next QB. It's about WINS in this league, that's what it's about. We care about the winners. I wonder why no one talks about all the great players of the 80s Dallas had on their team. Oh yeah, they didn't win crap.

So no send off, no nothing. You have 100 million things in your pocket that's a great send off. Where was Indianapolis send off with the greatest QB in history, Manning?

Like I said, somehow all the losses are his fault, and only his fault. Is this not a team sport? Read any quotes from our players this year and what is the one word you will almost always find? "TEAM." When Dak was struggling this year, the TEAM rallied until he calmed down later in the game.

No IT factor in big games? I'll wait for PercyHoward to come in here and grace us with Romo's 4th quarter stats. Or how the defense always folded when we needed one last stop.

Again, my initial post was my opinion, and I know everyone has different opinions. But you would think after the embarrassment we suffered last year through the hands of Cassel/Weeden and how incompetent other starting quarterbacks in the league looks, our fans would appreciate an undrafted guy that fought through the ranks.
 

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He carried the team where? I'd like to know, because if Super Bowls were involved, I would have liked to be there. The fact is, he's an undrafted player for a reason. He didn't have that IT factor in big games. He shrunk just like his pedigree. Big boys stand up in big games. The same goes for Dak. If he can't take us places in the next 4 years, then my mind shifts to the next QB. It's about WINS in this league, that's what it's about. We care about the winners. I wonder why no one talks about all the great players of the 80s Dallas had on their team. Oh yeah, they didn't win crap.

So no send off, no nothing. You have 100 million things in your pocket that's a great send off. Where was Indianapolis send off with the greatest QB in history, Manning?
Come on Clove.
Comments like that dilute what you have to offer.

So why don't you say, "Dak was a late 4th pick for a reason" or "Brady was a 6th round pick for a reason"
Where someone was drafted long ago means next to nothing.
 

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Again, my initial post was my opinion, and I know everyone has different opinions. But you would think after the embarrassment we suffered last year through the hands of Cassel/Weeden and how incompetent other starting quarterbacks in the league looks, our fans would appreciate an undrafted guy that fought through the ranks.
It's the definition of insanity.

Good post.
 

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While I disagree with you, Clove, on him doing nothing for the franchise, I do agree that feeling he needs some kind of honorary sendoff is ridiculous. The guy has been beyond compensated and given every chance reasonably possible.
Look, the guy took us to like 3 or 4 playoffs and won twice. That's not doing much for the franchise, let's just call it what it is. If we had gone to at least one NFC Championship, I could justify him. Just because the guy came in and gave us respectability for 10 years does not make him gold.

As a Tom Landry fan, a fan of America's team, I want more than a hand full of playoff victories in 20 years. This franchise is about winning. I wasn't swayed by all the bad season's we've had over the years, I still want Super Bowl titles, and that's what makes me a fan. It was 1977 when I became a fan, the year we won a Super Bowl. And ever since then, my only goal was to see this team win a Super Bowl. And these last 20 years have put me in such a bad mood, I've literally taken it out on board members right here. I don't have time for mid-tier teams, and almost teams, and things of that nature. So I was a fan of Romo the first 4 years, after that, get me a QB in here that can win. I don't want to hear excuse after excuse, I don't care. At least get me to an NFC Title game or something. We are not the Browns or Titans, we're America's team and we should expect nothing less. And I agree that Jerry Jones has a MAJOR part in us sucking for so long.

He's done nothing but undermind the coaches, put little respect into certain positions on the team ALA the offensive line, QB. He's tried to make QBs out of baseball players and has the mindset that any coach can coach this team to a Super Bowl. He hired a coach in training that was on it's way to doom had they not lucked up upon Dak Prescott. He attempted to hire friends instead of qualified coaches.

This franchise has been run into the ground the last 20 years and Jerry Jones is front and center of it all. At some point he listened to someone, and built an offensive line. Now we have a good thing going. The last thing we need to do is screw this thing up by messing with what's working, right now. Tony's last game in the playoffs against Green bay was a disaster. We ended that great year in disaster. And that's been the mantra here for 20 years. And that's why we as fans always expect something bad to go wrong because we've been a flawed team for so long.

And now it seems as if we're on the right track. Are we on the right track? I don't know. But what I do know is that the man who was responsible for a lot of those disappointing teams is now the backup, and that's where he should remain unless he's traded, quit, cut or retire. He can have his moment once he retires and comes back to the stadium for a farewell speech. He gets what Danny White gets.
 

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Tony has been the best player on a bad team for years and it's not even close.
That is an opinion and not rooted in fact.

Tony Romo has never been considered the best at his position, he has no All-Pro selections which I would consider a little more unbiased than opinions on a Cowboy forum. That's not to say that I don't consider him great, I certainly do and I do believe he should be in the Hall of Fame.....but I am a Cowboy fan.

I think we can all agree that when evaluating a player on our own team as a fan, we tend to be a little more partial to "our guy".

Ths debate is not whether he is deserving of a great send off, I disagreed with the opinion that he has always been our best player. He has not, if you were to use any fair system of conparison.

Now, has he been our most valuable? I would say certainly. However, again, it has a lot to do with his position as a quarterback. I mean, he has more influence on the outcome of a game because of his position.

If Tony Romo played on the same team as Larry Allen in his prime, would Tony be the better player?

Is Tony Romo a better football player than DeMarcus Ware, 4 time All-Pro, 8 time Pro Bowler? What about Jason Witten, 2 time All Pro, 10 time Pro Bowler?

Perhaps it's simply case of semantics between "best" and "most valuable". Its just that I've always felt that fans have always given more credit, positive and negative, to quarterbacks in what is supposed to be a team sport.

We have had guys that have been considered the very best or one of the very best players in almost every year they have played.

Tony Romo has been in the NFL for 14 seasons now. He was an undrafted rookie before the 2003 season. Since that time he has started 58% of those games, in his first theee years he didn't take a single snap from scrimmage as a quarterback, he was inactive most of his rookie year and was the special team holder for the next two.

Jason Witten started 95% of the 220 regular season games played since game #1 of his rookie year. He played in 219 of those games, was not the designated starter until the 10th game of his rookie year. The only game he missed was game #5 in his rookie season.

Jason Witten did not have a reception last Thursday. The last time this happened was game #14 his rookie season.....almost 13 years ago.

Since Jason and Tony came in the league at the same time I felt he would be the most appropriate comparison. Not saying Jason was more important or impactful, I believe he was a better player over exactly the same length of time.

This type of comparison is sure to come up in the future when comparing Zeke and Dak.
 

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Get him in to show his value and that he can stay healthy.... doing this will increase his TRADE value.
Love Romo, but I love the Cowboys more. A healthy, proven Romo is worth a first round pick and possibly more!
 

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You can put him in to take a kneel down or something out of a sign of respect. What you don't want is a QB controversy to start up in the lockerroom if he doesn't throw an INT, unlikely but it is possible. Leave him exactly where he is. He has had far to many chances and failed at every one of them. Time to move on was yesterday. I wish him the best.
 

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Being in the category of one of the younger Cowboys fan, I grew up with Romo as my quarterback so I probably have more of an emotional attachment to him than some of the older fans who witnessed the greatness of Staubach and Aikman. I am sort of shocked at how some just dismiss Romo like he wasn't the starting quarterback of this team for nearly 10 years and carried some bad teams on his back, but I understand why some don't like him. Not to call out Clove, ufcrules or Gabe, but I can understand why they and other Romo "haters" don't hold Romo high in regard because he hasn't much postseason success. In fact, I agree that his lack of postseason success taints his overall resume, but I will never pin that all on him because that's just foolishness. Sure, he was a part of those losses, but not the only reason.

Would've loved to see Tony win a Super Bowl with this team, in fact I wanted nothing more. Sure, he might win one this year as a backup which would be cool, but that won't change any perception of him around here and in the NFL. He'll still be known as a choke artist and an overrated quarterback to many and that's a shame. Jerry failed him by not building a better team around here and thinking Tony could do it all by himself. By the time we had an offensive line around here, Tony's body was failing him and he never had that chance to lead this team to a Super Bowl. It's a damn shame.
 

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Being in the category of one of the younger Cowboys fan, I grew up with Romo as my quarterback so I probably have more of an emotional attachment to him than some of the older fans who witnessed the greatness of Staubach and Aikman. I am sort of shocked at how some just dismiss Romo like he wasn't the starting quarterback of this team for nearly 10 years and carried some bad teams on his back, but I understand why some don't like him. Not to call out Clove, ufcrules or Gabe, but I can understand why they and other Romo "haters" don't hold Romo high in regard because he hasn't much postseason success. In fact, I agree that his lack of postseason success taints his overall resume, but I will never pin that all on him because that's just foolishness. Sure, he was a part of those losses, but not the only reason.

Would've loved to see Tony win a Super Bowl with this team, in fact I wanted nothing more. Sure, he might win one this year as a backup which would be cool, but that won't change any perception of him around here and in the NFL. He'll still be known as a choke artist and an overrated quarterback to many and that's a shame. Jerry failed him by not building a better team around here and thinking Tony could do it all by himself. By the time we had an offensive line around here, Tony's body was failing him and he never had that chance to lead this team to a Super Bowl. It's a damn shame.
Im not trying to get into it or put anyone's thoughts down. But, the excuses some people make for Romo is nonsense in my view. Tom Brady doesn't have some incredible supporting cast but has that stopped him? Look at Dak for example. He took over a 4-12 dumpster fire and is dominating.

Saying we didn't give Romo a fair chance and failed him is nonsense. He failed us... Time and time again. I can respect that some people have good memories of him, but again he had far to many chances.

I will also add that if Dak fails to win a playoff game for 7-8 years I will be the first one here calling for him to step aside for good. He also inherited a FAR WORSE situation than Romo.
 
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The team doesn't really need this issue. If you start him and he does amazing, and lights it up, then all the sudden the media, and some of the fans, are hounding the players and team about "Why isn't Romo starting."

You won't do Dak any favors at this point by having Romo come in and play. Unless you feel like Romo will come in and be awful, which I doubt anyone on that coaching staff feels like that would be the case.
 

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Im not trying to get into it or put anyone's thoughts down. But, the excuses some people make for Romo is nonsense in my view. Tom Brady doesn't have some incredible supporting cast but has that stopped him? Look at Dak for example. He took over a 4-12 dumpster fire and is dominating.

Saying we didn't give Romo a fair chance and failed him is nonsense. He failed us... Time and time again. I can respect that some people have good memories of him, but again he had far to many chances.

I will also add that if Dak fails to win a playoff game for 7-8 years I will be the first one here calling for him to step aside for good. He also inherited a FAR WORSE situation than Romo.
Oh yea if Dak starts to struggle and it goes on that many years with one playoff loss after another I'll hold him to the fire. I want championships. I at least want to compete in championship games. And although I don't think Tony is all to blame for our shortcomings for the most part he didn't play great in most of those playoff games. That's why I don't get the we need Romo to win crowd. Do I think Tony is capable of winning a title? Yes. There have been QBs that are barely mediocre that have won titles. But until he does it, it's just guessing. And that was when he was healthy. Right now I don't think he can stay healthy for any amount of time. Anyway I grew up with Roger, Danny and Troy. Maybe if Tony was the only QB I knew, I'd feel different.
 

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He may have thrown for 300 yards vs the Vikes, but unfortunately, he may have thrown some interceptions as well. Dak plays it safe when he has to, Tony forces the issue. Sometimes it was great and sometimes it was "what the f*** was that"

Tony has a career ~2 TD:1 INT ratio...pretty much the same as every other great QB. In other words, you can win superbowls on that.
 

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Tony has a career ~2 TD:1 INT ratio...pretty much the same as every other great QB. In other words, you can win superbowls on that.
There's been a lot worse QBs than Romo win a SB. A lot of times it's about timing. There's no doubt Romo is
good enough to win a SB, he's been a victim of bad timing. Weak supporting casts, injuries etc. Dak is at the right place, right time and he has taken advantage of it. Let's hope it continues. For whatever it's worth, I think we would be just as good, if not better, if Romo had not been hurt. But, he did, so Let's go Dak!
 
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