The 2 seed with no help from this draft class

TheMarathonContinues

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They wouldn't have to start to be significant contributors.

I take it you mean that a player taken at our after our pick in the second. Well, only five picks after us so it's not a lot of choices. But Torrence would have started games for us if they were being honest about who was the best option given Zack's health issues.
How many games has Martin missed? Two? And as of now....we don't seem to be hurting for backup guards.

You don't have to start to be a significant contributor? I mean I guess? But who fits this mold? Who would you have drafted in the 1st or 2nd round that would'v been a "significant contributor"?
 

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What do you mean they haven't contributed? Mazi is currently starting and Schoon is getting reps in the running game. As far as them being F's? I mean I guess? Not really sure what you guys expected....well I guess you expected "contributors".....
Mazi has been getting moved around too easily all season long. Nothing like how dominating he looked in training camp. That's what I mean in not contributing. Same goes for Schoonmaker. Definitely has not contributed hardly at all.
 

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Well, bro, maybe you didn't see Overshown in college at UT. He is definitely better than Clark and can give LVE a run for his money.
Man I've seen great college players come into the league and be out of it by year 2. It's not about Overshown. I don't know what he will be in the pro's. I'm just basing my opinion on what I've seen from this team and defense. Mind you, Jourdan Lewis was starting for us until he got hurt then Bland came into the game.
 

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Mazi has been getting moved around too easily all season long. Nothing like how dominating he looked in training camp. That's what I mean in not contributing. Same goes for Schoonmaker. Definitely has not contributed hardly at all.
These guys not being contributors has more to do with us having a deep team then anything. They could easily give Mazi and Schoonmaker more reps.
 

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Man I've seen great college players come into the league and be out of it by year 2. It's not about Overshown. I don't know what he will be in the pro's. I'm just basing my opinion on what I've seen from this team and defense. Mind you, Jourdan Lewis was starting for us until he got hurt then Bland came into the game.
So you diss Overshown since he's an unproven rookie through one side of your mouth, while through your other side of your mouth you're stating veteran Jourdan Lewis was alright until getting injured and how young and inexperienced Daron Bland was discovered after given a chance to play?

You're being hypocritical bro. Flip-flopping.
 

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These guys not being contributors has more to do with us having a deep team then anything. They could easily give Mazi and Schoonmaker more reps.
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I WISH DT was deep. LOL And TE is not deep. Fergy just won starting job this year and no one has claimed 2nd/3rd spots which are used often in NFL.
 

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You could literally do this for every team and you'll get the same results most likely. Maybe 1 key contributor per team and lucky if you get more than that. All the know it alls in here scattered like roaches when you turn the light on when they see posts like this. The only response is going to be something like this.
Whatever bro. You didn’t even read my post. I based mine on my teams draft history.
Hold my beer…..

2022
Tyler Smith, starter
Fergy, starter
Bland, starter

2021
Parsons, starter
Osa, starter

2020
Ceedee, starter
Diggs, starter
Biadasz, starter

and……

2023

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I don’t know, I’m worn out trying to convince some of you this was a bad draft. It happens.

Also, I think Overshown is a guaranteed stud if he didn’t have injury issues from college to his first year in the Pros. Jethro loves him some wildcat injured LB picks. So something good may eventually happen.
 

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Whatever bro. You didn’t even read my post. I based mine on my teams draft history.
Hold my beer…..

2022
Tyler Smith, starter
Fergy, starter
Bland, starter

2021
Parsons, starter
Osa, starter

2020
Ceedee, starter
Diggs, starter
Biadasz, starter

and……

2023

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I'm not your bro. :rolleyes:

The topic since I know you have serious trouble paying attention the subject is about the 2023 draft.

I realize it's tough for you to STAY ON TOPIC but let me help you since @VaqueroTD likes to
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You thought you were slick by going back by mentioning past drafts that have nothing to do with what anyone is in here talking about and ended up failing miserably.

I'll take your beer not hold it and give it back to you because I don't want anything that you have.
 
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mldardy

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Whatever bro. You didn’t even read my post. I based mine on my teams draft history.
Hold my beer…..

2022
Tyler Smith, starter
Fergy, starter
Bland, starter

2021
Parsons, starter
Osa, starter

2020
Ceedee, starter
Diggs, starter
Biadasz, starter

and……

2023

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And also Biadasz, Bland, and Fergy were not starters. Bland became a starter out of necessity when Lewis got hurt halfway thru last season. You are another poster that doesn't know what you are talking about. Now go away Troll.
 

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2022 Fergy and Bland weren't starters
2021 Osa wasn't a starter
2020 Biadasz wasn't a starter

And the topic since you weren't paying attention is about the 2023 draft.

I realize it's tough for you to STAY ON TOPIC but let me help you since @VaqueroTD likes to
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At least research your @#!# before you spout it. Biadasz, Osa, Fergy and Bland were starters their rookie year. Not the entire year, but for large chunks. You know, I don’t know why I even waste my time fact checking my stuff before I post it because no one else does.

No, the topic in my reply was that compared to our other drafts, this one was a stinker. And then I made fun of someone trying to randomly post bad drafts from other teams, proving that our draft was successful. That’s a winning argument! Sure.

You’re fighting a no-win battle. The draft was a failure, let’s hope they can get something in years 2-3 development, and hope Overshown is fully healthy and a star. I have no idea what they did different this time other than my guess is they were too focused on need. My advice would be spend some more money in free agency, and do more of what they did this year with draft picks, going for proven veterans. Otherwise you’ll end up with reaches such as MazI and Schoon for needed positions.
 

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Same goes for Schoonmaker. Definitely has not contributed hardly at all.
He contributes very much every game. He had 39% of snaps on offense and 50% of snaps on special teams for a total of 39 snaps vs Washington. I noticed on 2 of his snaps on offense he completely pancaked the defensive player allowing Pollard to get a big gain.

I'm not sure why you think he hardly contributes at all because he does almost the same thing every week.
 

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And also Biadasz, Bland, and Fergy were not starters. Bland became a starter out of necessity when Lewis got hurt halfway thru last season. You are another poster that doesn't know what you are talking about. Now go away Troll.
Weak.
 

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The TE pick is the one that pisses me off the most. You reach for a tight end.
Who could have foreseen that Schoon wouldn't have done match when we already had a young, playmaking starter at that position + another young backup.
How was he a reach? Had the Cowboys waited until the 3rd he would have been gone and their contributor in the 12 offense and on special teams would have been gone.
 

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He contributes very much every game. He had 39% of snaps on offense and 50% of snaps on special teams for a total of 39 snaps vs Washington. I noticed on 2 of his snaps on offense he completely pancaked the defensive player allowing Pollard to get a big gain.

I'm not sure why you think he hardly contributes at all because he does almost the same thing every week.
On special teams and run blocking, yes, Schoonmaker has contributed much this season, especially the second half of this season. It's in the passing game where I expected more for a 2nd rounder. Hope he keeps improving.
 

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At least research your @#!# before you spout it. Biadasz, Osa, Fergy and Bland were starters their rookie year. Not the entire year, but for large chunks. You know, I don’t know why I even waste my time fact checking my stuff before I post it because no one else does.

No, the topic in my reply was that compared to our other drafts, this one was a stinker. And then I made fun of someone trying to randomly post bad drafts from other teams, proving that our draft was successful. That’s a winning argument! Sure.

You’re fighting a no-win battle. The draft was a failure, let’s hope they can get something in years 2-3 development, and hope Overshown is fully healthy and a star. I have no idea what they did different this time other than my guess is they were too focused on need. My advice would be spend some more money in free agency, and do more of what they did this year with draft picks, going for proven veterans. Otherwise you’ll end up with reaches such as MazI and Schoon for needed positions.
Biadasz started 4 games and Bland started 8 games due to injury not because they beat out their competition. By your ridiculous definition Mazi is a starter because he started 3 games this year. YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH and STOP CHANGING THE TOPIC TROLL. Why don't you go back to the 1976 draft while you're at. :rolleyes:
 
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