The 2009 NBA Finals Thread...Lakers win series (4-1)

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TheCount;2795697 said:
Why would you make that bet? You bet against the field? That's almost as ridiculous as thinking the Cavs were going to sweep the playoffs.

I thought they'd sweep the first, lose one against the Rockets/Blazers, and 3 the rest of the way.

When they play to their potential, they have the talent to do so.

The Lakers are like the Tar Heels this past season. Gobs of talent, they just get lazy sometimes and it allows other teams to have a chance.
 

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Bonecrusher#31;2795701 said:
Ariza was hurt as was Bynum,,,


I was a "Witness".....

Well Bynum is hurt again or he's just straight trash(I tend to think the latter). Either way he's sucking in the playoffs.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2795437 said:
Who was it that stopped Kobe last year in the finals? I'll admit I don't remember the series much but something tells me no one shut him down last year either.

You just don't shut Kobe down. You worry about shutting everyone else down and let Kobe do what Lebron tried to do, win by himself.

The Lakers most likely will win this series, and probably win it pretty easily (Unfortunately) but I'm certainly pulling for the Magic to beat them.
Kobe was crap his last two Finals appearances. Tho, it was against an alltime '04 Piston defense and a Celtic defense that was very dominant last year. This Magic defense was the best in the league IMO, but they're not dominant like those ones were. That being said, they did a real good job of throwing bodies at him this season and making him struggle to get his shot, so I expect him to have some low spots.



That being said, no Jameer is huge. He was the leading score in both the wins against L.A. and Fisher constantly gets abused by PG's who are able to penetrate(see Brooks in the Semis). And even if he does return, he'll be the back up and wont be much of a factor.


Alston's penetration is very average, so I doubt he'll give L.A. major problems. Him and Jameer are about the same with their passing and rebounding abilities, and Alston is probably a better defender, but he's nowhere near the constant offense that Jameer was this season.



The thing about it to me is L.A.'s two biggest weaknesses on defense just happen to be the Magic's two biggest strengths.


1. Pick & Roll with Dwight.

2. The 3 point shooting.



The Lakers Pick & Roll defense is crap when exploited and they're very inconsistent at guarding the 3, so it's gonna be interesting to see how they adjust.


I expect Hedo to have some struggles in this series as he's not gonna have the normal size advantage he does with Ariza guarding him. The only clear cut advantage the Magic have is Dwight and he's gonna have to be much smarter with his fouls in the series than he was against Cleveland. Obviously, he doesnt have to deal with Lebron attacking and getting bogus calls, but the Lakers frontline is far more dominant inside compared to the jump shooting Cavs.


This series to me really hinders on Dwight's ability to stay on the floor and taking advantage of the 1-on-1's and finding the open shooters for the double teams. He's gonna have to have the best 6-7 game stretch of his career for the Magic to win this.
 

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SLATEmosphere;2795735 said:
Jameer Nelson might play!! ohhh buenos noches LA!!

This we already know. However, much like Bynum (or even worse since he will have had no burn in time), Nelson will not be a factor if he returns. Nice try though. ;)
 

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Bleu Star;2795736 said:
This we already know. However, much like Bynum (or even worse since he will have had no burn in time), Nelson will not be a factor if he returns. Nice try though. ;)

He won't play 38 minutes but he could give 15-20 quality minutes. His speed will kill the Lakers on pick n rolls.
 

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I, personally, would start Bynum over Odom and let Odom dominate the 2nd team of Orlando. Howard would have fits attempting to cover Gasol and Bynum. We'll see if Phil subscribes to the same theory on Thursday might. :D
 

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SLATEmosphere;2795578 said:
Alston 1/4 the player of Jameer Nelson? Keep that post count down and do us all a favor. Thank you for coming.

Nelson is an all star. Alston has been a back up scrub until he playd your overrated Cavs, and their overrated coach, and their overrated D.

As bad as you are talking about the Lakers they dominated your Cavs both times this year.
 

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kev8822;2795850 said:
Nelson is an all star. Alston has been a back up scrub until he playd your overrated Cavs, and their overrated coach, and their overrated D.

As bad as you are talking about the Lakers they dominated your Cavs both times this year.

Magic beat Lakers both times this year and Alston has been far from a scrub for us. Alston has stepped in and ran this offense a lot better then I expected. You must not have watched many games.
 

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Letemburn;2795853 said:
Magic beat Lakers both times this year and Alston has been far from a scrub for us. Alston has stepped in and ran this offense a lot better then I expected. You must not have watched many games.

And both games came down to the wire. I said earlier if the Lakers win game 1 they win in 7, if they lose I see the Magic winning the series.

Nelson is still 4 times the player Alston could ever dream of. You know as well as I do he has no business starting on any team in the NBA (except over D-Fish). He is a backup. Yes he has played well, but he is still a backup.
 

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kev8822;2795879 said:
And both games came down to the wire. I said earlier if the Lakers win game 1 they win in 7, if they lose I see the Magic winning the series.

Nelson is still 4 times the player Alston could ever dream of. You know as well as I do he has no business starting on any team in the NBA (except over D-Fish). He is a backup. Yes he has played well, but he is still a backup.
Your basketball IQ is very limited.




Alston is far from "elite", but he's a middle of the road PG who does a good job of running the offense. And if the Magic didnt trade for him, Anthony Johnson would've single handidly destroyed their offense.
 

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The Panch;2795889 said:
Your basketball IQ is very limited.




Alston is far from "elite", but he's a middle of the road PG who does a good job of running the offense. And if the Magic didnt trade for him, Anthony Johnson would've single handidly destroyed their offense.

:lmao2: Nooooo way
 

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The Panch;2795889 said:
Your basketball IQ is very limited.




Alston is far from "elite", but he's a middle of the road PG who does a good job of running the offense. And if the Magic didnt trade for him, Anthony Johnson would've single handidly destroyed their offense.

Your reading comprehension is very limited. I said HE HAS PLAYED WELL
but he has been a career back up, and is a major downgrade from Nelson who was/is turning into an elite PG. Any Orlando fan trying to spin that Alston is not a huge downgrade despite the fact he has played well is just drinking too much magic kool aid. He destroyed LA both games. Not having him is going too hurt.
 

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kev8822;2795879 said:
And both games came down to the wire. I said earlier if the Lakers win game 1 they win in 7, if they lose I see the Magic winning the series.

Nelson is still 4 times the player Alston could ever dream of. You know as well as I do he has no business starting on any team in the NBA (except over D-Fish). He is a backup. Yes he has played well, but he is still a backup.

I love arbitrary, conclusive statements like "4 times the player". Based on what, exactly?

Why stop at four, why not go for 5 times? 10? 50? I mean what different does it make when the assertion is based on absolutely nothing.
 

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kev8822;2795879 said:
And both games came down to the wire. I said earlier if the Lakers win game 1 they win in 7, if they lose I see the Magic winning the series.

Nelson is still 4 times the player Alston could ever dream of. You know as well as I do he has no business starting on any team in the NBA (except over D-Fish). He is a backup. Yes he has played well, but he is still a backup.

Please..just stop..please. Your embarrassing yourself. Alston is no Jameer, we know that. But just stop with calling him garbage. He's proven he can be a knock down shooter and distributor. He's been hot this playoffs and has really surpised me. He could start on about 10 teams.Easily.
 

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TheCount;2796293 said:
I love arbitrary, conclusive statements like "4 times the player". Based on what, exactly?

Why stop at four, why not go for 5 times? 10? 50? I mean what different does it make when the assertion is based on absolutely nothing.

How about SIGNIFICANTLY better. That work for you?? Nelson is better than Alton is every facit of basketball, except maybe on the AND 1 tour.
 

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SLATEmosphere;2796326 said:
Please..just stop..please. Your embarrassing yourself. Alston is no Jameer, we know that. But just stop with calling him garbage. He's proven he can be a knock down shooter and distributor. He's been hot this playoffs and has really surpised me. He could start on about 10 teams.Easily.


Name 10....

Celtics-Rondo-No
76ers-Andre Miller-No
Nets-Devin Harris-No
Raptors-Calderon-No
Knicks-Duhon/Robinson-Maybe
Cavs-Mo Williams-No
Bulls-Rose/Heinrich-No/No
Pistons-Stuckey-No
Pacers-Jarret Jack-No
Bucks-Bell-No
Hawks-Bibby-No
Heat-Chalmers-Yes, for now.
Bobcats-Felton-No
Wizards-Agent Zero-No
Nuggets-Chauncey-No
Trail Blazers-the kids from Maryland whose name escapes me at the moment-No
Jazz-Willaims-No
Timberwolves-??-I'll say yes since I can't even think who their starting PG is
Golden State- Ellis-No
Thunder-??-I'll say yes since I can't even think who their starting PG is
Clippers-Baron Davis-No
Suns-Nash-No.
Kings-Udrih-Yes
Lakers-Dfish-Yes
Spurs-Parker-No
Rockets-Brooks-obviously not, that is why they traded him
Mavs-Jkidd-No
Hornets-CP3-Dear god no
Grizz-Mayo-no.

That is 5 yes', and 1 maybe.
 

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Bucks
Pacers
Heat
T-Wolves
Golden state-Ellis is used as a SG
Thunder
Kings
Lakers
Grizzlies-Mayo is a SG. Sorry.
Knicks

He could start on all those teams. If you don't agree then I don't know what to tell you.
 
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