The 2016 Salary Cap and the Argument for keeping Carr

Galian Beast

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No one wanted to cut Carr more this past off season than me. I was very surprised when he was retained early, when there were some free agent alternatives out there, but cutting him now probably makes less sense.

You now only really save by making him a post June cut, which doesn't really help you this year anyways. Otherwise you only really save 6 million when you cut him, and you still need to find his replacement in the draft and/or free agency. I feel like with Scandrick coming back from his injury, you can't expect the best out of him (although it did happen pretty early in the offseason). I think you definitely move on from Claiborne. I actually bet both of these players will have the Newman/Jones effect where they go on to have much better careers else where.

Given the general desire to play Jones at free safety, I don't really see the point in bringing in a high priced free agent free safety and having either him or Jones play out of position.

What is probably best for this secondary is to draft a couple corners in the first five rounds and pair them with Scandrick and Carr, with Jones playing at safety. I would look to get a replacement strong safety next year.

I honestly think it is time to cut bait with Jason Witten. His expense outweighs his production, especially when you factor in his false starts. He keeps us firmly in an age where tight ends aren't dynamic players that need to be accounted for. 19th in touchdowns this year, but let's give him a pass for this year, but he only had 5 last year. No way you cut Tony Romo's best friend though...You could definitely get a dynamic player for what he costs you the next two years.

Brings me to Doug Free and the fact that he probably doesn't get cut either. You only save 2.5 million for cutting him unless he was a June 1st cut, which again doesn't help you and we don't have his replacement set up yet. I'd like for him to become a backup this year, and for him to be cut next year, where we can save 5 million in cutting him right off the bat.
 

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If we draft a player like Bosa who might go 1st overall but will add to the pass rush.

Then the deal thing to do with Carr is re-negotiate his salary, because he is solid, just not a top 5-10 CB like he's getting paid. Adding to the dline will add effectiveness to our DB's.

We get savings and don't have to pay another starter. Use that $ on the DL, LB and/or SS positions. Draft a couple corners like suggested.

Claiborne won't get much on the open market and may actually get signed to a cost effective deal. New DB coach

Church can go and Wilcox can be a cost effective backup who can swing at FS and SS if needed in case of injury.
 

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I honestly think it is time to cut bait with Jason Witten. His expense outweighs his production, especially when you factor in his false starts. He keeps us firmly in an age where tight ends aren't dynamic players that need to be accounted for. 19th in touchdowns this year, but let's give him a pass for this year, but he only had 5 last year. No way you cut Tony Romo's best friend though...You could definitely get a dynamic player for what he costs you the next two years.

Totally agree, Cowboys should spend a 2nd rounder on this dynamic player just begging to be picked. What could possibly go wrong?
 

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Marinelli would prefer to play a lot more zone IMO. Scandrick is probably the only guy who is capable of being effective playing zone. Mo and Carr cannot. So maybe they let those 2 go and acquire CBs who can effectively play zone coverages. Keep Jones at FS and add another S.
 

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"Only save 6 million"

That's a good amount of dough.

Unless he renegotiated his contract significantly, he won't be here next season.
 

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Carr and Free roster decisions shouldn't be based on how much you would or wouldn't save on the salary cap. Why don't we try this weird concept of competition by bringing in better players at their positions? We may already have a replacement for Free in Green.
 

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I've personally had enough of trying to fit round pegs in square holes. This team made a huge investment in man-to-man cornerbacks in Carr and Claiborne and then made the decision to switch to a scheme that uses a lot of zone coverage. How can anyone be naive enough to be surprised when there a problem?

It's time to get some cornerbacks who fit your scheme. Otherwise, dump your current defense for one that fits what your players do best. 'Patchwork' is obviously not working.
 

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I've personally had enough of trying to fit round pegs in square holes. This team made a huge investment in man-to-man cornerbacks in Carr and Claiborne and then made the decision to switch to a scheme that uses a lot of zone coverage. How can anyone be naive enough to be surprised when there a problem?

It's time to get some cornerbacks who fit your scheme. Otherwise, dump your current defense for one that fits what your players do best. 'Patchwork' is obviously not working.

I think there are CB capable of playing both zone and man, part of it is putting the time in practice and film room. Too often guys do not know where they are supposed to be and allow WR to go free. I would think a professional would show enough dedication to understand how to play zone. There are many teams in the NFL who will run both man and zone coverage, it should not be a case of you can only run either man or zone.
 

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I think there are CB capable of playing both zone and man, part of it is putting the time in practice and film room. Too often guys do not know where they are supposed to be and allow WR to go free. I would think a professional would show enough dedication to understand how to play zone. There are many teams in the NFL who will run both man and zone coverage, it should not be a case of you can only run either man or zone.

But being "capable of playing" and playing well are two different things, right?

Regardless of any debate about that, it's clear to me that the current cornerbacks the Cowboys do have aren't able to. Neither Carr not Claiborne have played up to the level of investment made in them. Time for a change in my opinion.
 

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But being "capable of playing" and playing well are two different things, right?

Regardless of any debate about that, it's clear to me that the current cornerbacks the Cowboys do have aren't able to. Neither Carr not Claiborne have played up to the level of investment made in them. Time for a change in my opinion.

True but not knowing where you should be is not playing it at all. Zone is not that hard figure out. You don't have to be a big hitter to play zone but you do need to know where you are and the zone you are responsible for. I don't buy into a player only being able to play 1 type of coverage, I think if players put in the time and effort we see from players like Lee who live in the film room that they would be able to do it. I put this on the coaches as well and they should demand more from these over priced egos
 

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I'm only getting rid of Carr if a suitable candidate is signed in free agency. He is a sub-par play with a heavy price tab but they have to keep him until they no longer need him.

DT and CB would be my priorities on defense (if I was Jerry) going into free agency. I would look to draft a d-line player, LB, or safety high in the draft.
 

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I've personally had enough of trying to fit round pegs in square holes. This team made a huge investment in man-to-man cornerbacks in Carr and Claiborne and then made the decision to switch to a scheme that uses a lot of zone coverage. How can anyone be naive enough to be surprised when there a problem?

It's time to get some cornerbacks who fit your scheme. Otherwise, dump your current defense for one that fits what your players do best. 'Patchwork' is obviously not working.

:clap::hammer:
 
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