The 30-year old Olympic virgin...

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WoodysGirl;4570891 said:
As crass as CCF comes across, I know more than a few guys who would chuck her the to the curb if she's not giving up the goodies.

Then they are guys with a loser mentality. Their loss because of their stupidity.
 

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MichaelWinicki;4570981 said:
No doubt that's true.

And these guys probably aren't looking at marriage as a priority.

I watch Patti, the "Millionaire Match Maker" and I waffle between surprised and not with many of the guys she tries to help (fixup) talk about finding a wife out of one side of their mouths and on the other totally look past mind/personality and go directly for "hot body" when picking a gal out at one of Patti's mixers.
Wow.. So I'm not the only one who watches that show. Patti's my she-ro. I love it when she has a Patti melt as Andy Bravo calls them.

And you're right, most of those guys are looking at the shallow end of the pool when looking for a female. I like the concept, but some of them seem to use her service for all the wrong reasons.
 

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Patti always says the ***** picks. Ultimately, we will pick the one we find the hottest because our ***** tells us to pick that person.
 

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WoodysGirl;4570891 said:
As crass as CCF comes across, I know more than a few guys who would chuck her the to the curb if she's not giving up the goodies.

I also had a friend who was a virgin til she was around 30, as well. She didn't wait for any specific reason other than until she felt comfortable w/that guy.

The real question is how can you know you are really connected to her or have a sexual chemistry/compatible sexually with her, until well you know you have sex with her.
 

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I believe assessing compatability in many areas is important. But at the same time you cannot test compatability in all cases because life is such a long winding unpredictable road.

At some point you will need to love your spouse in your incompatability. Sorting out those game-breakers at a young age before you commit just isn't possible in some cases.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4571028 said:
The real question is how can you know you are really connected to her or have a sexual chemistry/compatible sexually with her, until well you know you have sex with her.

Yep, they just come naturally. SMH.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4571028 said:
The real question is how can you know you are really connected to her or have a sexual chemistry/compatible sexually with her, until well you know you have sex with her.
Let's try not to go too far with the questions, hmm, CCF?

For women, love is about the emotional connection and intimacy is an extension of that connection. And if someone chooses to wait to match that physical connection with their emotional connection, then I don't have a problem with that. And generally, if the guy knows she is waiting and still pursues her, then he knows what he's in for. Same for a female.

If the connection of either party is below the waistline, then they're not trying to form a connection. They're trying to get their rocks off.
 

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WoodysGirl;4571066 said:
If the connection of either party is below the waistline, then they're not trying to form a connection. They're trying to get their rocks off.

Exactly.

And that's how we get a divorce rate of 50% and yawhos fathering 30 kids.
 

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WoodysGirl;4571066 said:
Let's try not to go too far with the questions, hmm, CCF?

For women, love is about the emotional connection and intimacy is an extension of that connection. And if someone chooses to wait to match that physical connection with their emotional connection, then I don't have a problem with that. And generally, if the guy knows she is waiting and still pursues her, then he knows what he's in for. Same for a female.

If the connection of either party is below the waistline, then they're not trying to form a connection. They're trying to get their rocks off.
IMO, sometimes "getting your rocks off" :laugh2: Can lead to a stronger connection. Some people find intimacy very important in a relationship.
 

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WoodysGirl;4571066 said:
Let's try not to go too far with the questions, hmm, CCF?

For women, love is about the emotional connection and intimacy is an extension of that connection. And if someone chooses to wait to match that physical connection with their emotional connection, then I don't have a problem with that. And generally, if the guy knows she is waiting and still pursues her, then he knows what he's in for. Same for a female.

If the connection of either party is below the waistline, then they're not trying to form a connection. They're trying to get their rocks off.

a couple that is not compatible sexually will not last.
 

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Future;4571078 said:
IMO, sometimes "getting your rocks off" :laugh2: Can lead to a stronger connection. Some people find intimacy very important in a relationship.

for men for sure, we express love through sex
 

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WoodysGirl;4571066 said:
Let's try not to go too far with the questions, hmm, CCF?

For women, love is about the emotional connection and intimacy is an extension of that connection. And if someone chooses to wait to match that physical connection with their emotional connection, then I don't have a problem with that. And generally, if the guy knows she is waiting and still pursues her, then he knows what he's in for. Same for a female.

If the connection of either party is below the waistline, then they're not trying to form a connection. They're trying to get their rocks off.

But at the same time, you have to know if you are sexually compatible if you are going to be making a lifelong commitment to someone. Let's not kid ourselves; sex is a very important part of a successful marriage and long-term relationships. You need to know if your partner is into some of the things that you are into sexually, and also if your libido is compatible with each other.

The good news is, you don't have to have sex with someone to know if you are compatible. After a few dates with someone even without any sexual interaction, you both should have a general idea if you are compatible. As you advance into a relationship and each of you open up more physically and emotionally, you should have a more detailed understanding of each others likes, dislikes, and also libido levels from foreplay. If you don't then you probably aren't asking the right questions or making the right moves...
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4570755 said:
Memo to Lolo,

Thanks for nothing

Signed

Men

Notice though that people are saying props to her but if she were a guy, she would be laughed at for being a loser who couldn't get a woman to get on her back for him.

AC Green
 

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MichaelWinicki;4571072 said:
Exactly.

And that's how we get a divorce rate of 50% and yawhos fathering 30 kids.

Future;4571078 said:
IMO, sometimes "getting your rocks off" :laugh2: Can lead to a stronger connection. Some people find intimacy very important in a relationship.
See above. SMH

JonJon;4571094 said:
But at the same time, you have to know if you are sexually compatible if you are going to be making a lifelong commitment to someone. Let's not kid ourselves; sex is a very important part of a successful marriage and long-term relationships. You need to know if your partner is into some of the things that you are into sexually, and also if your libido is compatible with each other.

The good news is, you don't have to have sex with someone to know if you are compatible. After a few dates with a someone even without any sexual interactions, you both should have a general idea if you are compatible. As you advance into a relationship and each of you open up more physically and emotionally, you should have a more detailed understanding of each others likes, dislikes, and also libido levels from foreplay. If you don't then you probably aren't asking the right questions or making the right moves...
The 2nd part of your post is the most important. Generally, after awhile, you know what each other are into. Being a virgin doesn't mean, one is a prude and is not open to experiencing different things. Just that they're limiting who they experience those things with.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4571028 said:
The real question is how can you know you are really connected to her or have a sexual chemistry/compatible sexually with her, until well you know you have sex with her.

Very few people have great sex at first, whether that be on the first date or the wedding night. Sexual compatibility usually comes with time. Moreover, it is much easier to develop sexual compatibility over time than it is emotional compatibility. People get much better at sex over time, but most people's emotional range and personality won't change much after a certain age.
 

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The30YardSlant;4571110 said:
Very few people have great sex at first, whether that be on the first date or the wedding night. Sexual compatibility usually comes with time.

That's a pretty valid point.

Also we need to remember this whole "sexual revolution" thing is very recent in the span of mankind's time on the planet and for many centuries the idea of putting-out prior to marriage wasn't considered to be a cool thing... especially from a female's perspective.
 

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MichaelWinicki;4571116 said:
That's a pretty valid point.

Also we need to remember this whole "sexual revolution" thing is very recent in the span of mankind's time on the planet and for many centuries the idea of putting-out prior to marriage wasn't considered to be a cool thing... especially from a female's perspective.
It's still not cool for a female to put out too much. Double-standards and all that.
 

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MichaelWinicki;4571116 said:
That's a pretty valid point.

Also we need to remember this whole "sexual revolution" thing is very recent in the span of mankind's time on the planet and for many centuries the idea of putting-out prior to marriage wasn't considered to be a cool thing... especially from a female's perspective.

I don't know if I agree with you. Men might have wanted their wives to be untried but most men were not untried. As the men were not having sex with themselves (except of course for the Royal Navy), then they were having them with women to whom they were not married.

I wonder though of those giving her props, how many were untried when they got married. Probably at most 1%.
 

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WoodysGirl;4571108 said:
See above. SMH

The 2nd part of your post is the most important. Generally, after awhile, you know what each other are into. Being a virgin doesn't mean, one is a prude and is not open to experiencing different things. Just that they're limiting who they experience those things with.

That is correct. I've dated a virgin before, and I was able to find out if we were compatible (we were not) without going through the motions. I've also dated a girl in which there was no sexual activity between us for a long time, but that was only because she didn't want to just sleep around with any and everybody. I respected that. But I still was able to find out if we were compatible (we were) and once she became comfortable, there was no lacking in that area.
 
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