The 94 Cowboys would have been the best if not for Jerry Jones

gimmesix

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No that’s lazy. Jimmy gave and demoted his life to that team. He molded it, he influenced it, he created it. He made them winners. He was the psychologist who made it all happen. For the owner to disrespect him the way he did, getting drunk and saying he could get anyone to coach that team was the ultimate disrespect. It’s not like Jimmy got drunk and came out and **** talked Jerry. It was 100% Jerry’s fault.
Here's another.

https://www.grunge.com/1164254/nfls-jerry-jones-and-jimmy-johnsons-feud-explained/

Another article mentions the fact that in December 1993 when Dallas was preparing for the players, Jimmy expressed interest in coaching the expansion Jacksonville Jaguars. Jones' response was that he alone would decide Jimmy's coaching future.

Both of their heads got too big and they destroyed what should have been. I love the part in these articles where Barry Switzer essentially tells Jerry how could you two idiots ruin such a great thing.
 

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Thanks for proving me right.
If you think that proves you right, then there's nothing I can do to correct your vision. There are plenty of articles out there that show both were to blame.
 

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If you think that proves you right, then there's nothing I can do to correct your vision. There are plenty of articles out there that show both were to blame.
It's very obvious who was the main reason and at fault. It's even more obvious since he won't put him in the ring of honor still even 2 years after saying he would on national television.

 
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I think that team was better than the 95 team that did win the SB. With Jimmy there I think we had a good shot to three-peat.
Would have been a four-peat at least since the Cowboys still won in spite of Switzer the following year. Amazing team.

I bet if you twisted Jimmy's arm and ask him his biggest regret in life, it could be not being able to complete his job in Dallas and maximize that team's talents and finishing the run. He knew he had lightning in a bottle at that time. You can't replicate again, as he tried in Miami.
 

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It's very obvious who was the main reason and at fault. It's even more obvious since he won't put him in the ring of honor still even 2 years after saying he would on national television.
They were both at fault, even if Jerry was the main reason (which I never said he wasn't, just that they both let egos get in the way and both deserve blame). It's hard to say that Jimmy wouldn't have left without the blowup. Jimmy didn't like to stay anywhere very long, and had openly expressed his interest in Jacksonville as I pointed out. He liked the challenge of building a champion more than he enjoyed maintaining a champion. That was how he was wired. He also has said that if I remember correctly.

Here's a excerpt from Troy on the two of them:

Aikman said Johnson used to console Cowboys players who missed out on Pro Bowl selections by telling them that “there’s going to be enough credit to go around for everybody. Everybody is going to have a hand in our team’s success.”

Aikman said he and the other leaders on the team bought into that. “We did it very happily because we wanted to win,” he said. “But the two leaders of our franchise, the owner, Jerry Jones and then Jimmy Johnson, they couldn’t make that work because they both wanted all the credit.

“And so that disappointment for me was that egos are what ultimately tore our team apart at a time when the players themselves were sacrificing so much.”
 
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I read that article last November. And I am referring to both men psychologically.
Not sure what you mean by that. Both men's egos got in the way of what could have been.

As Aikman said, “And so that disappointment for me was that egos are what ultimately tore our team apart at a time when the players themselves were sacrificing so much.”

It didn't ultimately matter whose ego was the greater one. Both men wanted the credit for the team's success, both resented the other for taking credit and not giving it to them and neither was willing to relent. If just one of them had been the bigger man (and it wasn't going to be Jerry because he's delusional ... which maybe is what you mean by psychologically) and said who cares who gets the credit, let's win, then the breakup wouldn't have happened. Therefore, they are both equally to blame.
 

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We woulda set a SB record. 94 with Jimmy we don't spot the niners 21 and we win.
yeah I just watched that game, and
1 cowboys did not have #1 seed and had to play on SF soaking wet field.
2. they played sloppy and made ton of mistakes/ turnovers
3 they were not properly prepared and motivated.

yes if jimmy had made it one more year it would have been played in dallas and and dallas would have had 3 in a row.

But I was thinking recently, and maybe jimmy decided he didnt want to win that 3rd one in a row just to spite jerry ! ??
 

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The 94 team made it to the NFC title game against a stacked 49ers team and turned the ball over three times. It’s not like the team never turned the ball over with Jimmy as head coach. The turnovers did them in. Let’s be honest had Jerry Rice’s TD not been called back early in the first quarter of the 92 NFC title game the Cowboys might have lost that one. We caught some breaks in that game and we didn’t catch any in the 94 game. If you listen to some fans here, they seem to think the Cowboys would have continued winning Super Bowls year after year had Jimmy stayed. That wasn’t going to happen. The salary cap and free agency eventually caught up with our great 90s teams.
 

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I don't think there is any question that the '94 team was better. I think the Cowboys got lucky that the Packers beat the 49ers in the playoffs, or else I don't believe we beat the 49ers. I remember being so happy that the Packers won that game.
I disagree. With the turmoil caused by Jimmy-Jerry, and having a horrible start, the Cowboys were taking over that game against SF until Deion got away with P.I. My buddy who was a Raiders fan was watching and he thought Dallas was going to win until the no call.

There is no way that SF was better than Dallas if the drama between Jerry & Jimmy wasn't a distraction. If things were still going as they were in 92 and 93 I think Dallas goes 14-2 or better and trashes SF in the title game.
 

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The 94 team made it to the NFC title game against a stacked 49ers team and turned the ball over three times. It’s not like the team never turned the ball over with Jimmy as head coach. The turnovers did them in. Let’s be honest had Jerry Rice’s TD not been called back early in the first quarter of the 92 NFC title game the Cowboys might have lost that one. We caught some breaks in that game and we didn’t catch any in the 94 game. If you listen to some fans here, they seem to think the Cowboys would have continued winning Super Bowls year after year had Jimmy stayed. That wasn’t going to happen. The salary cap and free agency eventually caught up with our great 90s teams.
No one is saying they would have won every year Jimmy was here. But it would have easily been at least a 4peat....something that seems impossible even now. Historical.
 

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I disagree. With the turmoil caused by Jimmy-Jerry, and having a horrible start, the Cowboys were taking over that game against SF until Deion got away with P.I. My buddy who was a Raiders fan was watching and he thought Dallas was going to win until the no call.

There is no way that SF was better than Dallas if the drama between Jerry & Jimmy wasn't a distraction. If things were still going as they were in 92 and 93 I think Dallas goes 14-2 or better and trashes SF in the title game.
LOL my poor writing skills shows up again. I'll rephrase it. I thought the '94 Cowboys was better than the '95 team. I had no confidence that the '95 Cowboys could beat the 49ers in the playoffs. In my previous post, I failed to transition properly from '94 to '95.

But yeah, the loss in the '94 championship game really angered me. Nothing went right and we were still in that game.
 

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Jimmy coaching that team I'm not so sure we lose 2 games and am pretty sure we land home field and the championship game woulda been different. In 94 we still had Harper and drafted Larry Allen and all the other core and role players. What a great team but sadly they just couldn't get over the HC and the Niners were stacked but again I think we win with Jimmy.
Of course 100%. That team would have won 4 in a row but the gods just never allowed it.
It's been over 30 years and the fact that the 90's Cowboys only had a 5 year run is embarrassing. All the blame is on Jerry.
If Jimmy was fired after winning back to back SB's in todays world the internet would have exploded. He left the youngest most talented team in the league. They had the absolute worst coach humanly possible and still won in 95.
Jimmy would have signed Deion in 94 as he was recruiting him in the SB, go back and watch NFL films. Deion played for peanuts in 94, he got paid by Jerry a year later.
 

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One major problem with the 94 team from the word go was without the old coaching staff, the level of play was sloppy. Penalties in particular were more frequent. Erik Williams missed the season a huge loss. Larry Allen barely offset a horrendous draft. Ray Donaldson was an upgrade though.
 

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It also helped build the same dynasty...with the good you get the bad...but I highly doubt anyone would give up those 3 superbowls in those 4 years...unfortunately he just made so many mistakes after that we have wasted nearly 30 years
Very fair.

Neither guy had success in the NFL without the other.

It was just a good partnership at the right time.
 
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