The Buehler Effect (through Week 8)

[SC Cowboyfan]

What routine kicks is he missing? He has 3 misses in 2009. All of them are from 40 to 49 yards.

He has only missed on 10 FGs in 2 and a half seasons and 7 of those 10 are from 40 yards or further. That's really good.

Plus he's made 50+ yard kicks with the game on the line.....(Buffalo)

 

[Cover 2]

Shane Lechler is #1 on that list. He has 1 KO. See any problem with that?

Kickoff Rankings For Those Interested

In the game of "Kicking Off", he with the most TBs and highest TB% wins.

Agreed.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Agreed.

well why don't you cough up where you got your official rankings from? Folk top 5 and Buehler #1?

I'm just quoting official stats, not my fault if you don't like them..

 

[Cover 2]

well why don't you cough up where you got your official rankings from? Folk top 5 and Buehler #1?

I'm just quoting official stats, not my fault if you don't like them..

Buehler number one from the stats in this thread, and Folk top 5 from what all he's done in his career.

 

[Hoofbite]

that's a pretty lame retort considering the rest of the list have 30-40 kicks

feel free to argue with the official NFL rankings if you want, I didn't make them,,,

The rankings on NFL.com are based on pure yardage. Well, in this case its Yards/Kick.

Obviously they can't simultaneously rank kickers #1 in multiple different categories. Its up to the viewer to mash it all together and come to a conclusion.

Just look at the stats, PLURAL.

Buehler averages 1.1 yards less per kick than the #2 (according to the rankings) kicker but has an average return 4 yards better than the #2. Oh, he also has almost 2X as many touchbacks.

 

[Hostile]

Plus he's made 50+ yard kicks with the game on the line.....(Buffalo)

He's 5 of 8 from beyond 50 yards in his career. That's pretty amazing.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Buehler number one from the stats in this thread, and Folk top 5 from what all he's done in his career.

well, that's nice and squishy and unofficial,,, so Folk is a top 5 career kicker?! I don't think so,,,

c'mon man, I like the kickers, I just wish they were one guy,,,

 

[bbgun]

1. Dallas 17

Late in the 4th quarter, the Atlanta returner decided to run one deep out of the endzone because they were so far behind and needed a spark, so you can kinda/sorta add one more to his totals.

 

[Seven]

That is unreal. I hate Kickers, but you can't argue with this.

Not out loud, anyways. Buehler might hear ya.................

 

[TheSport78]

The NFL is a "what have you done for me lately" league, and lately Folk has been mediocre at best, all homerism aside. He doesn't even play in tough conditions, and I can recall him missing kicks at home this year. The kicker spot will be evaluated this offseason, you can BANK on it.

 

[AdamJT13]

I'm just quoting official stats, not my fault if you don't like them..

Those aren't "official" stats.

First of all, kickoff distances aren't always kept correctly. A lot of touchbacks are recorded as 70-yard kickoffs, even if they go through the back of the end zone. Buehler's second kickoff against Seattle, for example, bounced about 6-7 yards deep in the end zone and went out. It was recorded as a 70-yard kickoff for a touchback, even though it went more than 75 yards.

Secondly, those averages include onside kicks and squib kicks, which obviously don't have anything to do with the ability to kick off deep. Correctly kept kickoff stats (such as the ones I posted) don't include onside kicks and squib kicks.

And lastly, any "official" rankings have minimum qualifications. A quarterback who throws a TD pass on his only attempt isn't officially the top-rated passer, and a guy who "kicks off" one time isn't officially the top-ranked kickoff guy. (Never mind that it actually was a free kick after a safety -- he punted the ball, he didn't kick off -- and that it was returned for a touchdown.)

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Those aren't "official" stats.

First of all, kickoff distances aren't always kept correctly. A lot of touchbacks are recorded as 70-yard kickoffs, even if they go through the back of the end zone. Buehler's second kickoff against Seattle, for example, bounced about 6-7 yards deep in the end zone and went out. It was recorded as a 70-yard kickoff for a touchback, even though it went more than 75 yards.

Secondly, those averages include onside kicks and squib kicks, which obviously don't have anything to do with the ability to kick off deep. Correctly kept kickoff stats (such as the ones I posted) don't include onside kicks and squib kicks.

And lastly, any "official" rankings have minimum qualifications. A quarterback who throws a TD pass on his only attempt isn't officially the top-rated passer, and a guy who "kicks off" one time isn't officially the top-ranked kickoff guy. (Never mind that it actually was a free kick after a safety -- he punted the ball, he didn't kick off -- and that it was returned for a touchdown.)

Like hell they aren't official stats or rankings, they're straight off the NFL.com site under the heading "NFL Rankings",,, no doubt there are inherently different angles and groupings with stats, but don't tell me those are not official. it's all in how you choose to combine the stats,,,

 

[AdamJT13]

Like **** they aren't official stats or rankings, they're straight off the NFL.com site under the heading "NFL Rankings",,, no doubt there are inherently different angles and groupings with stats, but don't tell me those are not official. it's all in how you choose to combine the stats

They're not official, and they're not correct.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

That is a full size horse by the way.

:laugh2:

Once I again, I feel compelled to post to a Buehler thread despite having nothing to contribute.:dance3:

 

[theogt]

Like hell they aren't official stats or rankings, they're straight off the NFL.com site under the heading "NFL Rankings",,, no doubt there are inherently different angles and groupings with stats, but don't tell me those are not official. it's all in how you choose to combine the stats,,,

FYI, just because they're posted on NFL.com doesn't mean they're "official" stats.

 

[Ken]

For perspective...

Folk had exactly 0 touchbacks last season.

 

[CowboyMort]

I actually think those are the best kickoffs, 2-3 yards back and the returner has to take a step back and has all his weight back then decides to bring it out. The coverage is usually around the 15 when they meet.

I think they are the best kicks as well. Any time you can stick them at the 10 or so yard line, I am all for it.

 

[rkell87]

Like hell they aren't official stats or rankings, they're straight off the NFL.com site under the heading "NFL Rankings",,, no doubt there are inherently different angles and groupings with stats, but don't tell me those are not official. it's all in how you choose to combine the stats,,,

dude time to bow out

 

[Manster68]

Oh, how I remember the bellyaching from draft day until the pre-season!

Honestly, I didn't know what to make of it. I was a bit skeptical also.

I am still skeptical over some of the other draft picks as well. I am sure some of them will have positive production by season's end.

However, Buehler just might be in the running of team MVP.

 

[casmith07]

Not out loud, anyways. Buehler might hear ya.................

Buehler's not a Kicker anyway...he's a linebacker, right??