The Case For Tre Harris

CommonCents said:
I understand the need for a RB, but if we are not getting Jeanty (who is special) the rest of the RB's are just like guys we currently have. I'd rather start Duece Vaughn and Javonte Williams.

I'm saying if the pick is going to be a WR, Tre Harris imo is better than all of them.
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HUH?
I would take Henderson or Judkins over way too hyped up Jeanty at 12.
We can get a DT at 12, or in a slight tree down. And get a very good and effective RB in the 2nd round. Fix the OL, one of those other RB's can be as effective.

Sorry, but you hype up a 3rd or 4th round WR over every other WR. But then say no other RB's are worth it.
 
CommonCents said:
I understand the need for a RB, but if we are not getting Jeanty (who is special) the rest of the RB's are just like guys we currently have. I'd rather start Duece Vaughn and Javonte Williams.

I'm saying if the pick is going to be a WR, Tre Harris imo is better than all of them.
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Harris would be a Raiders type reach at 12. I think Golden has better speed and upside.

I agree about RB. I’d focus on that position after the 2nd round. Hopefully we grab a WR and CB in rounds 1/2.
 
jazzcat22 said:
HUH?
I would take Henderson or Judkins over way too hyped up Jeanty at 12.
We can get a DT at 12, or in a slight tree down. And get a very good and effective RB in the 2nd round. Fix the OL, one of those other RB's can be as effective.

Sorry, but you hype up a 3rd or 4th round WR over every other WR. But then say no other RB's are worth it.
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Jeanty is a different cat. I disagree with your take on him, however, heck yes I'll also take Henderson. Not sure about Judkins yet.
 
Rayman70 said:
Jeanty is a different cat. I disagree with your take on him, however, heck yes I'll also take Henderson. Not sure about Judkins yet.
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They should not take a first round running back not at 12, however I would excuse them for taking AJ ,but no one else..

I love Henderson but there is no way I'm taking a running back other than AJ at 12 if you want one in the first round that bad you move down and get them but there's too many of them you're gonna get one of your targeted running backs in the second round you still got to take the position group that's BPA that you can't get at 44, if you wait... There's a couple positions like maybe wide receiver and defensive tackle that you can't get the same quality at 44 that you can at 12 that's probably where you go I think there's some decent corners some really good running backs that'll be there at 44 that is why people Passover some positions that high up in the first round... It's about what will be left in value at 44 if you pass them over sometimes there's a run on certain positions and that's usually wide receiver and there aren't that many defensive tackles...
 
CommonCents said:
Size- 6'3" 210lbs
Speed- Burner, consistently gets deep
Route Running- Looks like A. Harper/J. Rice
Catching- Hands, through contact, attacks the ball, and physical ATC/RAC
Conditioning- Phenomenal shape/worker

Look, Tre Harris is the single WR in this draft class who is head and shoulders the best WR. His film jumps off the screen. It's not close. He will be the pick everyone will regret not selecting. I would take him at 12, I would not risk him being selected by anyone else. The lack of interest in him is a smoke screen, he is plug and play WR2 day one week one in Dallas. Adding Tre Harris to Lamb, and Turpin would be the best WR group in the NFL.

Best WR in this class imo. Not Golden, not Burden, not McMillan, and YES even better than Travis Hunter (as a WR).

Tre Harris is a WR1 legacy pick.
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Bro, don't make a post like this and not include video to back it up.
 
CommonCents said:
Harris had 1,030yrds on 60 catches at 17.2 yards a catch with 7 TDS last year. For Mel Kiper, and other to miss this guy is absolutely insane. Massive fail.
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Mel isn't a scout, though. So no worries. The Mel Kiper big board and all of that is just for entertainment
 
blueblood70 said:
I don't have anything to bring to this debate about this particular player but I can tell you what you just described as also a risk with TET McMillan or whatever the hell his name is...

Hear me out, this guy right now is being hyped up as a great 50-50 ball guy don't worry about him being slow, because he can out jump anyone, he'll be great in the red zone,

but they don't talk about his route running, they don't talk about him getting very small separation right now in college and what is that going to do in the pros against better DBS?

sometimes even the draft can fall in love with a player because of his size, yeah but his size also needs to come with speed or separation or route running something else besides the fact that he's Michael Gallup or a poor man's Dez Bryant..

because right now Dez Bryant at least coming out of college we knew he could run and he had a lot of good moves, meaning he can return punts and he can at least get open, if he didn't know that many routes, he got better with time, but I'm not sold on TET, I just am not I don't see how he's being hyped up over golden at #12 because I would take golden at 12 just as easily..

You calling this guy Michael Gallup it's just reminds me of how blind some people are because that's how I see TET.. Granted ,I didn't break down a bunch of film, and I didn't see any of his games which is also weird and I never heard of the guy, and I know I'm a Longhorn fan and the SEC/big12 guy ,and maybe I just didn't hear about him because he was on a bad team in Arizona, but that's also a red flag to me that the only time I heard this guy's name come up was when the combine/pre-draft ,mock drafts started...​

And yes, I realized that players can come from small schools or relatively unheard of like Terrell Owens or it can be slow like Jerry Rice but you have to have something more than size tell me what else this guy brings besides a jump ball 5050 guy just getting out leap A DB..

And again, I'm not claiming to be an expert I just thought the ironing here of you saying this guy that we're talking about here and Trey Harris reminds you of Michael Gallup and not worth 12 and I'm sitting here thinking the same thing about Tet..

You pick a guy at 12 he needs to be a day one starter in my opinion he needs to be able to line up on the opposite side of lamb and doesn't need a lot of time to adjust to the NFL. That's how I see most first rounders especially at 12 especially when there's other players there that can be as dynamic or more dynamic like golden we don't have to worry about golden because again when you go to the NFL against stiffer competition you need to have more to lose meaning because of your speed and your route running and your ability to get separation even if you lose some of that you still are gonna adjust to the NFL better because you have more to lose I don't think TET has more to lose someone needs to convince me....
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blueblood thanks for the synopsis my friend.
 
CommonCents said:
Size- 6'3" 210lbs
Speed- Burner, consistently gets deep
Route Running- Looks like A. Harper/J. Rice
Catching- Hands, through contact, attacks the ball, and physical ATC/RAC
Conditioning- Phenomenal shape/worker

Look, Tre Harris is the single WR in this draft class who is head and shoulders the best WR. His film jumps off the screen. It's not close. He will be the pick everyone will regret not selecting. I would take him at 12, I would not risk him being selected by anyone else. The lack of interest in him is a smoke screen, he is plug and play WR2 day one week one in Dallas. Adding Tre Harris to Lamb, and Turpin would be the best WR group in the NFL.

Best WR in this class imo. Not Golden, not Burden, not McMillan, and YES even better than Travis Hunter (as a WR).

Tre Harris is a WR1 legacy pick.
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mr mcclay- zat you , buddy? :thumbup:
 
blueblood70 said:
They should not take a first round running back not at 12, however I would excuse them for taking AJ ,but no one else..

I love Henderson but there is no way I'm taking a running back other than AJ at 12 if you want one in the first round that bad you move down and get them but there's too many of them you're gonna get one of your targeted running backs in the second round you still got to take the position group that's BPA that you can't get at 44, if you wait... There's a couple positions like maybe wide receiver and defensive tackle that you can't get the same quality at 44 that you can at 12 that's probably where you go I think there's some decent corners some really good running backs that'll be there at 44 that is why people Passover some positions that high up in the first round... It's about what will be left in value at 44 if you pass them over sometimes there's a run on certain positions and that's usually wide receiver and there aren't that many defensive tackles...
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Henderson I meant to say in round 2 . Not at 12. As you say, AJ is the only outlier.
 
big dog cowboy said:
Mel Kiper Big Board

Wide Receivers

1. Travis Hunter, Colorado
2. Tetairoa McMillan, Arizona
3. Emeka Egbuka, Ohio St.
4. Matthew Golden, Texas
5. Luther Burden III, Missouri
6. Savion Williams, TCU
7. Jack Bech, TCU
8. Jayden Higgins, Iowa St.
9. Jaylin Noel, Iowa St.
10. Kyle Williams, Washington St.
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Chris Simms who has been pretty good with WRs in the draft has a whole different view than most. He has Hunter first, but Kyle Williams 2nd. McMillan 3rd, Noel who was his 4th. Harris was 5th. Thinks Bond is better than teammate Golden and says if you look at the early season Texas coaches thought the same and then Bond got hurt. Thought Egbuka is over-rated just doesn't think he has the physical skills to be a top WR.
 
I went to Ole Miss. Dide can play. I’d rather take him in the second than McMillan at 12.
 
CommonCents said:
Size- 6'3" 210lbs
Speed- Burner, consistently gets deep
Route Running- Looks like A. Harper/J. Rice
Catching- Hands, through contact, attacks the ball, and physical ATC/RAC
Conditioning- Phenomenal shape/worker

Look, Tre Harris is the single WR in this draft class who is head and shoulders the best WR. His film jumps off the screen. It's not close. He will be the pick everyone will regret not selecting. I would take him at 12, I would not risk him being selected by anyone else. The lack of interest in him is a smoke screen, he is plug and play WR2 day one week one in Dallas. Adding Tre Harris to Lamb, and Turpin would be the best WR group in the NFL.

Best WR in this class imo. Not Golden, not Burden, not McMillan, and YES even better than Travis Hunter (as a WR).

Tre Harris is a WR1 legacy pick.
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Well if we grab him in the 3rd, we best be getting a RB first
 
speedkilz88 said:
Chris Simms who has been pretty good with WRs in the draft has a whole different view than most. He has Hunter first, but Kyle Williams 2nd. McMillan 3rd, Noel who was his 4th. Harris was 5th. Thinks Bond is better than teammate Golden and says if you look at the early season Texas coaches thought the same and then Bond got hurt. Thought Egbuka is over-rated just doesn't think he has the physical skills to be a top WR.
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I like his thinking on the wr pecking order. I LOVE Kyle Williams more than most. His tape tells the tale. Very consistent. I Have Royals rated higher than most too. I think both players, Williams and Royals are just better players today as we speak, than Tet is now. But that doesn't mean Tet won't eventually be the better player. He's just more raw.
 
Bond just needs to learn how to catch the ball and he would be better than Golden. He has more upside than Golden. But he's risky because of the injury stuff and the hands, drops.
 
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