The comparsion no cowboy fan wants to talk about

[BearMe]

If combine numbers are the true indicators of talent then i expect you to explain to us all why Jamarcus Russel is a better QB then Romo

Ren, post your stats that prove TC is better than RM. I am still waiting.

 

[iceberg]

Ren, post your stats that prove TC is better than RM. I am still waiting.

no stat will do any good. you'll twist it any which way you choose to keep your anger-boner happy and waving.

we took jones. get therapy and get over it and quit flogging us with your busted dreams.

 

[Ren]

Ren, post your stats that prove TC is better than RM. I am still waiting.

Mendenhall: 119 for 631 4TDs (2 fumbles) 11 rec 91 yards

Choice 143 for 721 5TDs (0 fumbles) 34 rec 308 yards

 

[iceberg]

Mendenhall has been bashed quite a bit here (much of it ridiculous) so I am giving some of it back. drivel deleted from here.

with a whopping 12 posts to your name, how do you KNOW the history in here? what was your last name they banned?

 

[joseephuss]

Make no mistake about it: Tomlin loves Mendenhall and thinks he can be a really special player. I have no idea what happened at practice earlier in the season, but it seems to be history.

Dallas picked Felix because of JJ's connection to Arkansas. Pittsburgh then scooped up Mendenhall. If Mendenhall fell in the draft, it was because of the run on offensive tackles up to that point.

The idea that Mendenhall has a poor work ethic is a little crazy to me, considering he is one of the most physically fit players in the league. Considering Felix never lifted in college would be a bigger concern to me.

It was a concern to scouts that Mendenhall may have been a one hit wonder coming out of college. He only had one 1000 yard season at Ilinois. Felix had two at Arkansas. Choice had two at Georgia Tech. Those concerns are over now. They are all in the NFL and helping their teams now. I am happy with Felix and Tashard. You are not. Sucks to be you.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

with a whopping 12 posts to your name, how do you KNOW the history in here? what was your last name they banned?

Is there any doubt that BearMe is Daboys?

 

[BearMe]

If Fast Willie Parker does not get hurt, Mendenhall may not have seen the field as much this year.

The best defense against Mendenhall this season has been by the Steelers OC, who kept Mendenhall off the field in favor of FWP. It HURT the Steelers that they were being so loyal to FWP when Mendenhall was the better back. The Steelers have turned it around with Mendenhall starting and Parker backing him up.

Maybe someone can explain to me how Mendenhall can bust a 39-yard run on his third carry against the Bears and then be benched for the rest of the game, which the Steelers ended up losing? I guess it is possible that Mendenhall did not know all of the plays, but he was clearly the better back.

 

[BearMe]

It was a concern to scouts that Mendenhall may have been a one hit wonder coming out of college. He only had one 1000 yard season at Ilinois. Felix had two at Arkansas. Choice had two at Georgia Tech. Those concerns are over now. They are all in the NFL and helping their teams now. I am happy with Felix and Tashard. You are not. Sucks to be you.

A concern to scouts or a rationalization by Cowboy fans? That's part of the false crap that gets spread around here by Cowboy fans, unless you can show me a legit scouting report. At Illinois, Mendenhall backed up Pierre Thomas, who is having a pretty good NFL career himself. When given the chance, Mendenhall was a monster who took Illinois to the Rose Bowl.

 

[gbrittain]

with a whopping 12 posts to your name, how do you KNOW the history in here? what was your last name they banned?

I find it curious that he has a grand total of 12 posts. Every single post he has ever made was about Mendenhall.

I think he is Mendenhall and he really wanted to be drafted by the Cowboys.

 

[BearMe]

with a whopping 12 posts to your name, how do you KNOW the history in here? what was your last name they banned?

Look at my registration date and it coincides nicely with the 2008 NFL draft, which is when I started following what Cowboy fans here were saying about Mendenhall. (I needed to register to read the posts.) I knew you guys were underestimating Mendenhall with a lot of wrong information about him. I'm a fan of the Bears (and Illinois in college), not a phony poster.

 

[joseephuss]

A concern to scouts or a rationalization by Cowboy fans? That's part of the false crap that gets spread around here by Cowboy fans, unless you can show me a legit scouting report. At Illinois, Mendenhall backed up Pierre Thomas, who is having a pretty good NFL career himself. When given the chance, Mendenhall was a monster who took Illinois to the Rose Bowl.

No, that would be you saying Felix doesn't lift weights.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

One let's not act as if MB3 is all pro he isn't. 2 Willie Parker has gone to the pro bowl the same as mb3. 3 Lendale white has rushed for a 1000 yards before they added CJ. Mb3 hasn't. So all 3 of the guys had accomplished RB's in front of them 2 of them got the starting job. One of them is content being a back up. Because that's what he is a back up. He was a back up in College he's a back up in the nfl and you can't even count on him to run the ball more than 10 times in a game. He's a joke.

YPC mean crap when you're at 41 carries. Lets also not forget that both of that CJ and Mendenhall both have YPC average over the league average and both have more than 100 carries. So let's not act as if they guys aren't producing because they are.

As for the other response and excuses as to why Felix can't hold either of these RB's jock strap it's simple because he can't. LoL @ why would you want 2 types of mb3. Let's go back to the stats.

mb3 98 carries 447 yards 4 TDs
Rashard Mendenhall 100 carries 573 yards 4 TDs

two more carries yet 130+ more yards. LoL that's why you draft him. But whatever cowboys players are the best JJ made an excellent selection and whatever non sense you guys want to spout but you can't erase the stats. Stats are facts. Oh yeah LoL @ whoever posted the team stats and neglected to mention the huge drop off in YPC from both teams when other guys get the ball. Also Willie parker has 60 carries and Mewlede moore has 25. SO there goes that theory about mendenhall not splitting time with 2 other RB's.

Man I love the CZ good morning guys hope I got yall juices flowing.

Whoever doubts my pride as a cowboy fan is also a joke. I love the cowboys and just because I love them doesn't mean I will accept the non sense and BS that they were about.

Oh yeah about felix's speed I'm pretty sure Mendenhall had a faster 40 time than him and well we all know what CJ did at the combine. But here's to you guys. Morning take care love yall.

Ok. I stand corrected. Apparently you can be that stupid.

There's 2 key difference.

1 They were drafted back to back to back
2 I constantly get crap about my bashing of Felix.

This is vindication and it's sweet. So the same way I took yall shots take mine and accept them. It's all good nature ribbing anyways.

And the other difference is that you completely gloss over facts to thump your chest and feel vindicated. Only further proving that I was wrong to ever give you credit for not being as dumb as your original post made you seem.

... you were saying?

I stand corrected.

The only reason Mendenhall has better numbers than Felix this season is because Willie Parker got hurt and Mendenhall has been the main guy for the past five games. Mendenhall had only 45 yards in three games before Parker started missing games.

If Barber had missed most of the past five games and Felix had gotten 93 carries during that time, he might have far more yards than Mendenhall has, given that Felix's career YPC is a mere 7.94 -- the highest in NFL history.

Don't try giving him facts. He's not smart enough to understand them. He's already proven that.

Did Felix not start this season? When he did he got hurt? That's called not making the most of your opportunities. Mb3 missed games this year. Nice try though Adam. Better luck next time.

Unless you're calling starting the Giants game (where they still shared carries) as your evidence of him starting then no. He's never been the starter in the sense that he's the #1 guy as Mendenhall and Johnson are.

And to further that point Mendenhall is only getting a shot, at all, because Parker has been injured. If Parker doesn't go down then Mendenhall would be on pace for all of about 100 yards this year. Given that he had a nice 45 or so prior to the Parker injury.

And Mendenhall got hurt last year. He hasn't exactly proven to be durable.


CAREER STATS
Rashard Mendenhall 119 carries, 631 rushing yards, four total TDs
Felix Jones 71 carries, 564 rushing yards, five total TDs


Mendenhall has 48 more carries, 67 more yards and one less touchdown. Yep, he's definitely a star and Felix is a wasted pick.

Man it sucks when the facts completely fly in the face of ones 'vindication'. Keep trying though 4life. Sooner or later your bound to say something that actually turns out to be somewhere in the realm of correct.

I won't hold my breath on it though.

 

[iceberg]

Look at my registration date and it coincides nicely with the 2008 NFL draft, which is when I started following what Cowboy fans here were saying about Mendenhall. (I needed to register to read the posts.) I knew you guys were underestimating Mendenhall with a lot of wrong information about him. I'm a fan of the Bears (and Illinois in college), not a phony poster.

maybe not, but your tunnel vision for your pet player will put any thought you may have into the toilet. why?

1. we didn't draft him. did you also go bug every other team that passed on him too? please tell me we're not the only one suffering through 3rd party non-buyers remorse.

2. it doesn't matter.

so people hate mendenhall. big deal. both have potential to be good players but sitting here in a cowboys forum being the "idiots guide to mendenhall" won't gain you any points for objectivity.

you get branded a billboard for a player and people will just ignore you when they're done "playing cat/mouse" with you.

let it go. go harass someone else. just quit flogging us with your busted dreams of i don't even know what anymore. but as a bears/mendenhall fan i can't see why you're here being so annoying. saying crap like "felix is a precious little flower" makes you come across as like i said, 12 years old.

if you want to swim in the big pool, take the waders off.

 

[BearMe]

Mendenhall: 119 for 631 4TDs (2 fumbles) 11 rec 91 yards

Choice 143 for 721 5TDs (0 fumbles) 34 rec 308 yards

I'm impressed. I like TC, but I have watched him and don't think he can handle the load of a #1 back.

 

[Clove]

Pitt 922 yards 4.3 average wins 6 losses 2
Dall 1101 yards 5.1 average wins 6 losses 2
Ten 1288 yards 5.4 average wins 2 losses 6

do you have a valid point?

 

[iceberg]

Choice alone is better then Mendenhall, so i'm not sure how Choice + Felix could be any worse :laugh2:

Ren, why don't you post the stats that you so want to post? Go ahead, I don't care. Here is a link for the 2008 NFL combine stats: they will tell you that Choice is smaller, weaker, and slower than Mendenhall: probably why he was drafted lower, duh.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/combineRB.html

You are not looking at the stats correctly. Runs up the middle are not the only runs between the tackles. He has 9 runs for 65(7.2 avg) yards to the right, which is between the right guard and the right tackle. He has 9 runs for 104(11.6) yards to the left, which is between the left guard and the left tackle. The 1.9 yard average you are talking about is for runs between the guards only.

Ren, post your stats that prove TC is better than RM. I am still waiting.

no stat will do any good. you'll twist it any which way you choose to keep your anger-boner happy and waving.

we took jones. get therapy and get over it and quit flogging us with your busted dreams.

I'm impressed. I like TC, but I have watched him and don't think he can handle the load of a #1 back.

i rest my case.

why ask for stats if you'll just dismiss them if you don't like them?

like i said, objectivity is foreign to you and costing you in credibility here.

 

[tomson75]

I'm impressed. I like TC, but I have watched him and don't think he can handle the load of a #1 back.

ORLY?

What would lead you to come to that conclusion?

The fact that he excelled as a #1 back when he did just that for four games last year, or was it the 600 or so touches he had during his junior and senior years at GT?

Just curious.

 

[BearMe]

so people hate mendenhall. big deal. both have potential to be good players but sitting here in a cowboys forum being the "idiots guide to mendenhall" won't gain you any points for objectivity.

Hmm, I had one post before today, but now I am the "idiot's guide to mendenhall"? This whole forum was the idiot's guide to Mendenhall, with barely a single objective poster who could mention him without knocking him. I applaud the guy who started this thread because after as much crap as has been dished about Mendenhall here, it's becoming more and more clear that he is a very good NFL back. The questions about Felix remain though. Good luck keeping him injury-free and productive. If Mendenhall is my pet, then Felix is Jerry's pet.

 

[BearMe]

i rest my case.

why ask for stats if you'll just dismiss them if you don't like them?

like i said, objectivity is foreign to you and costing you in credibility here.

I gave credit to TC's stats. I was impressed. They are better than I thought they would be.

Giving me crap about my objectivity in this discussion is pretty funny. I brought an objective perspective that has been pretty much non-existent in the various Felix-Mendenhall discussions here.

 

[Arch Stanton]

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