The Cowboys and 2015 Cap Options

[Sandyf]

Great post to start the thread. Have to agree that the minimum cap will be $149 million although JMO but I see it being closer to $155 to $160 million. We still have money on this year's cap and wouldn't be at all surprised to see us sign Dez and Murray before the end of the season. Frankly, the hardest decision might be which of the LB to resign as McClain, Carter and Durant will all be free agents. IMO, we sign two of them, which two is another debate.

Free's status may all depend on how Parnell does over the next three weeks.

The way Carr has played as of late makes him more difficult to cut although a trade could happen there.

Melton, to me, has to show much more improvement but I do think he could end up staying on a redo contract.

What Lawrence shows at DE in the coming weeks will determine if we resign Spencer if at all.

The fact is that the roster will turn over by around 1/3 of the personnel so will be interesting as will the draft.

 

[Brooksey]

Silliest thing I've ever heard.

If the cost to cut a player is as high as it is to keep them, teams more often than not keep the player, especially if they can still contribute.

Cost to cut (salary cap hit) Vs. dead money are two different numbers.

 

[xwalker]

So then you don't understand the concept of dead money as being a sunk cost. Is there any way to recoup the dead money? No one is saying that it doesn't matter. What I am saying is that there is nothing you can do about it and it remains whether or not he is one the roster.

At this point I am repeating myself because you don't understand the significance and continue the handwaving.

Let me simplify it.

If we pay him the accounting will look like $5.1m + $3.4m dead in 2015 + $1.8m beyond 2015 + pro bowl level of TE play.
If we don't pay him the accounting is $5.2m in dead money - pro bowl level of TE play.

The dead money is in both cases so when comparing the two outcomes it is not a factor. If anything the fact that the status quo postpones cap charges to later years, it is the more desirable than the lump sum.

Again there is no interest so it doesn't matter if you pay it now or pay it later it is the same figure. Inflation remains a reality.

The only difference between the two is Jason Witten and the $5.1m it will cost for his services.

Further here are the 2015 cap figures and cash outlays for TE

http://overthecap.com/position/tight-end/2015/

His cap value is below Gates, Graham, and Gronkowski and within $1m of Lewis, Cook and Olsen. He is clearly being paid no more than fair market value. I wold argue he is underpaid relative to his peers.

Silliest thing I've ever heard.

If the cost to cut a player is as high as it is to keep them, teams more often than not keep the player, especially if they can still contribute.

It's only silly because you don't understand the salary cap.

 

[Galian Beast]

It's only silly because you don't understand the salary cap.

Keep telling yourself that.

 

[xwalker]

Keep telling yourself that.

You've demonstrated that you don't understand the salary cap.

 

[Galian Beast]

You've demonstrated that you don't understand the salary cap.

Again, please keep telling yourself that.

 

[Galian Beast]

Cost to cut (salary cap hit) Vs. dead money are two different numbers.

That's only because you're looking at it from the perspective of one year. That isn't how the cap works.

 

[xwalker]

Again, please keep telling yourself that.

I'm telling it to you.

I don't think you'll find anybody that believes that you over Fuzzy in regards to the cap.

Maybe if you considered listening to other people you could learn something.

 

[Galian Beast]

I'm telling it to you.

I don't think you'll find anybody that believes that you over Fuzzy in regards to the cap.

Maybe if you considered listening to other people you could learn something.

You can tell me whatever you want, doesn't make you right, and you aren't.

You don't understand the cap, and you're constantly getting it wrong. Likewise with Fuzzy.

 

[Galian Beast]

Ignoring signing bonuses and restructured salary and the impact it has on the salary cap in a given year and the cumulative effects are an example of not understanding the salary cap and how it works.

Ignoring dead money and the cost related to eating dead money versus continuing to spread it over the course of a contract in addition to paying that players base salary is an example of not understanding the salary cap and how it works.

 

[bodi]

yup

he will get hurt sometime this year IMO

 

[Szczepanik]

Don't see us cutting spencer this year.

We waited THIS LONG for him to come back, and his knee has checked out well.

We would not have went through this if we planned to dump him.