The Cowboys "Mount Rushmore"

[GoCowboysGo]

I think it should be players only, and FWIW, I think Landry would agree!

Bob Lily
Roger Staubach
Emmitt Smith
Tony Dorsett

 

[ndanger]

Man it's just sickening over here with all the Jerry Jones hate,sickening. why don't some of you grow a set and go root for the Bidwell's for goodness sake. Every thread here for the last few years ends up a freakin' Jerry Jones bash.Really? a guy creates an entertaining thread in the off season and people turn it into jokes about Jerry, unreal. this place really has become a waist of time. Anyone notice some of the more valuable posters missing?There's a reason for it and this thread exemplifies it to a tee. :bang2:

 

[Ring Leader]

Let's add some clarification here.

Landry and Staubach are slam dunks.

Lilly almost has to be next but certainly not out of the Rushmore 4.

So it's Landry, Staubach, Lilly and one of the following:

Emmitt, Aikman and Schram.

Tough choice here, but I'm going with Emmitt in the Teddy Roosevelt spot.

 

[Awakened]

I agree with most:

Landry
Lilly
Staubach
Emmitt

One person who hasn't been honorably mentioned is Erik Williams. I know he doesn't belong, especially after the knee injury. But before the knee injury, Erik Williams was one of the most dominant OL to ever play the game. I remember Irvin saying Erik Williams, before the injury, was the best player in the NFL.

 

[cowboyfan4life2]

At the people that dont understand how dominant Lilly was. Not only his place Cowboy history, but one of the 50 greatest in NFL history. Nothing else needs to be said.

He was no doubt, he would be next up, I would say the next four after Landry,schram,staubach, and emmitt would be this

Lily
Troy
Jimmy Johnson
Witten

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I would say:

Arizona Cardinals Dan Deirdorf Jackie Smith Jim Thorpe Roger Wehril

Aneas Williams, Olie Matson, Ernie Nevers and Dan Dierdorf (but it will probably be Bidwell)

Atlanta Falcons Deion Sanders

Deion Sanders, Tommy Nobis, Claud Humphries and Steve Bartkowski

Baltimore Ravens Ozzie Newsome Ray Lewis Ed Reed

Jonathan Ogdan, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed and Art Model

Buffalo Bills Jim Kelly OJ Simpson Marv Levy Bruce Smith

OJ Simpson, Marv Levy, Jim Kelly, Ralph Wilson

Carolina Panthers Dom Capers

Sam Mills, Dom Capers, Mike MaCormick, Steve Smith

Chicago Bears George Halas Mike Ditka Dick Butkus Walter Payton

(This one is hard, you could go all RBs with just Red Grange, Bronko Nagurski, Gayle Sayers and Walter Payton)
Pappa Bear, Dick Butkus, Walter Payton, Sid Luckman

Cincinnati Bengals Paul Brown Anthony Munoz Boomer Esiason Cris Collinsworth

Paul Brown, Anthony Munoz, Ken Anderson, Boomer Esiason

Cleveland Browns Paul Brown Jim Brown Otto Graham Ozzie Newsome

Paul Brown, Jim Brown, Otto Graham, Bernie Kozar (but should be Lou Groza)

Dallas Cowboys Tom Landry Emmitt Smith Roger Staubach Troy Aikman

Tex Schramm, Coach Landry, Mr. Cowboy and Roger Staubach.

Denver Broncos John Elway Champ Bailey Randy Gradishar Shannon Sharpe

John Elway, Steve Smith, Tom Jackson, Mike Shanahan

Detroit Lions Doak Walker Barry Sanders Bobby Layne Jason Hansen

Bobby Lane, Barry Sanders, Night Train Lane, Megatron

Green Bay Packers Vince Lombardi Paul Hornung Bart Starr Farve

Vince Lombardi, Forrest Gregg, Ray Nitschke, Brett Farve. (might be the hardest franchise causer their franchise is littered with Historic players.)

Houston Texans Andre Johnson

Andre Johnson, Gary Kubiak, Matt Schuab, Bob McNair.

Indianapolis Colts Peyton Manning Johnny Unitas John Mackey Marvin Harrison

Robert Irsay, Johnny Unitas, Peyton Manning, Raymond Berry (Could easily be Webb Ebanks, Lenny Moore, Jim Parker, Marvin Harrison, Chris Hinton, Gino Marchetti, Eric Dickerson or Don Shula as well)

Jacksonville Jaguars

Tony Boselli, Mark Brunell, Fred Taylor, Jimmy Smith

Kansas City Chiefs Len Dawson Willie Lanier Tony Gonzales Derrick Thomas

Lamar Hunt, Hank Stram, Len Dawson and Derrick Thomas (could also be Otis Taylor, Bobby Bell, Willie Lanier, Buck Buchanan, Neil Smith, Marcus Allen, Joe Montana or Joe Delany)

Miami Dolphins Dan Marino Larry Csonka Paul Warfield Jason Taylor

Don Shula, Dan Marino, Nick Buoniconti, Larry Czonka

Minnesota Vikings Fran Tarkenton Gary Zimmerman John Randle Adrian Peterson

Bud Grant, Fran Tarkenton, Alan Page, AD

New England Patriots Tom Brady Bill Belicheck John Hannah Andre Tippett

Bill Belicheck, Tom Brady, John Hannah, Adam Vinitieri.

New Orleans Saints Archie Manning Drew Brees Sean Payton

Archie Manning, Drew Brees, Willie Roaf, Ricky Jackson

New York Giants Michael Strahan Phil Simms Lawrence Taylor Sam Huff

Tim Mara, Steve Owen, Frank Gifford and Lawrence Taylor. (There are so many that could be on this list, would take to long to list)

New York Jets Joe Namath Don Maynard Weeb Ewbank

Joe Namath, Weeb Ewbank, Don Maynard, Curtis Martin.

Oakland Raiders Al Davis Howie Long Lester Hayes Mike Haynes

Al Davis, John Madden, Gene Upshaw and Howie Long (Another one of those teams that could list about 20 players.)

Philadelphia Eagles Reggie White Ron Jaworski Brian Dawkins Tom Dempsey

Dick Vermeil, Reggie White, Chuck Bednarik, Brian Dawkins

Pittsburgh Steelers Joe Greene Chuck Noll Terry Bradshaw Franco Harris

Art Rooney, Chuck Noll, Terry Bradshaw, Rod Woodson (Again, there are tons of players and coaches that could be on this list)

Saint Louis Rams Merlin Olsen Marchall Faulk Deacon Jones Kurt Warner

Deacon Jones, Eric Dickerson, Jackie Slater, Jack Youngblood (yet another team with 10 or 15 guys that could be on the list)

San Diego Chargers Dan Fouts Lance Alworth Junior Seau Kellen Winslow

Don Coryell, Dan Fouts, Kellen Winslow, Junior Seau.

San Francisco 49ers Joe Montana Bill walsh Ronnie Lott Jerry Rice

Exactly right IMO. Walsh, Montana, Rice and Lott. (although, again, this franchise is littered with guys that would make a lot of other teams lists)

Seattle Seahawks Steve Largent Jim Zorn Walter Jones Kenny Easley

Steve Largent, Walter Jones, Steve Hutchinson, Cortez Kennedy

Tampa Bay Buccaneers Warren Sapp LeeRoy Selmon Derrick Brooks Ronde Barber

LeeRoy Selmon, Warren Sapp, Doug Williams, Derrick Brooks

Tennessee Titans Warren Moon Earl Campbell Bruce Matthews Eddie George

Bud Adams, Bum Phillips, Earl Campbell, Bruce Matthews

Washington Commanders Sonny Jurgensen Sam Huff Joe Gibbs Darrell Green

George Preston Marshall, Joe Gibbs, Sammy Baugh, Darrell Green (another club with maybe 10 guys that could be on this list)

 

[Lonestar94]

Golden Richards
Doug Free
Bobby Carpenter
Dave Campo

 

[cowboyfan4life2]

I would say:


Aneas Williams, Olie Matson, Ernie Nevers and Dan Dierdorf (but it will probably be Bidwell)


Deion Sanders, Tommy Nobis, Claud Humphries and Steve Bartkowski


Jonathan Ogdan, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed and Art Model


OJ Simpson, Marv Levy, Jim Kelly, Ralph Wilson


Sam Mills, Dom Capers, Mike MaCormick, Steve Smith

(This one is hard, you could go all RBs with just Red Grange, Bronko Nagurski, Gayle Sayers and Walter Payton)
Pappa Bear, Dick Butkus, Walter Payton, Sid Luckman


Paul Brown, Anthony Munoz, Ken Anderson, Boomer Esiason


Paul Brown, Jim Brown, Otto Graham, Bernie Kozar (but should be Lou Groza)


Tex Schramm, Coach Landry, Mr. Cowboy and Roger Staubach.


John Elway, Steve Smith, Tom Jackson, Mike Shanahan


Bobby Lane, Barry Sanders, Night Train Lane, Megatron


Vince Lombardi, Forrest Gregg, Ray Nitschke, Brett Farve. (might be the hardest franchise causer their franchise is littered with Historic players.)


Andre Johnson, Gary Kubiak, Matt Schuab, Bob McNair.


Robert Irsay, Johnny Unitas, Peyton Manning, Raymond Berry (Could easily be Webb Ebanks, Lenny Moore, Jim Parker, Marvin Harrison, Chris Hinton, Gino Marchetti, Eric Dickerson or Don Shula as well)


Tony Boselli, Mark Brunell, Fred Taylor, Jimmy Smith


Lamar Hunt, Hank Stram, Len Dawson and Derrick Thomas (could also be Otis Taylor, Bobby Bell, Willie Lanier, Buck Buchanan, Neil Smith, Marcus Allen, Joe Montana or Joe Delany)


Don Shula, Dan Marino, Nick Buoniconti, Larry Czonka


Bud Grant, Fran Tarkenton, Alan Page, AD


Bill Belicheck, Tom Brady, John Hannah, Adam Vinitieri.


Archie Manning, Drew Brees, Willie Roaf, Ricky Jackson


Tim Mara, Steve Owen, Frank Gifford and Lawrence Taylor. (There are so many that could be on this list, would take to long to list)


Joe Namath, Weeb Ewbank, Don Maynard, Curtis Martin.


Al Davis, John Madden, Gene Upshaw and Howie Long (Another one of those teams that could list about 20 players.)


Dick Vermeil, Reggie White, Chuck Bednarik, Brian Dawkins


Art Rooney, Chuck Noll, Terry Bradshaw, Rod Woodson (Again, there are tons of players and coaches that could be on this list)


Deacon Jones, Eric Dickerson, Jackie Slater, Jack Youngblood (yet another team with 10 or 15 guys that could be on the list)


Don Coryell, Dan Fouts, Kellen Winslow, Junior Seau.


Exactly right IMO. Walsh, Montana, Rice and Lott. (although, again, this franchise is littered with guys that would make a lot of other teams lists)


Steve Largent, Walter Jones, Steve Hutchinson, Cortez Kennedy


LeeRoy Selmon, Warren Sapp, Doug Williams, Derrick Brooks


Bud Adams, Bum Phillips, Earl Campbell, Bruce Matthews


George Preston Marshall, Joe Gibbs, Sammy Baugh, Darrell Green (another club with maybe 10 guys that could be on this list)

Good list, but for the Giants I would put Wellington Mara and Parcells on there, over simms and strahan.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Good list, but for the Giants I would put Wellington Mara and Parcells on there, over simms and strahan.

Simms and Strahan are not on my list. I have Tim Mara (not the son), Steve Owen (he was the HC for the Giants who was the HC when Vince Lombardi and Tom Landry both started coaching, won 2 championships), Frank Gifford and Lawrence Taylor.

 

[conner01]

mount rushmore is just not big enough. we need a whole mountain range to list all the super stars who have played here and any list of 5 or so is almost impossible to narrow down to

 

[cowboyfan4life2]

Simms and Strahan are not on my list. I have Tim Mara (not the son), Steve Owen (he was the HC for the Giants who was the HC when Vince Lombardi and Tom Landry both started coaching, won 2 championships), Frank Gifford and Lawrence Taylor.

My bad, read the wrong thing. I am curious as to why you would put tim in over wellington?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

mount rushmore is just not big enough. we need a whole mountain range to list all the super stars who have played here and any list of 5 or so is almost impossible to narrow down to

Yeah.... Giants, Washington, Pittsburgh, Chiefs, Oakland, Bears, Colts and 9ers are all like that as well.

 

[Bay10]

Landry
Smith
Staubach
Lilly

 

[JackWagon]

Yep ... the older teams with a history of winning ... hard to pick just 4 players. Some of the newer teams ... noone really stands out. Like Jacksonville.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

My bad, read the wrong thing. I am curious as to why you would put tim in over wellington?

Well, he was one of the original 5 franchise owners, he built the Giants from scratch (wasn't already done for him), it was the only 1 of the original 5 franchises that survived the modernization of the NFL, he had controlling interest in the Giants until 1991, when he sold out to Bob Tisch. Of the 8 Championships that were won by the Giants, 6 of them happened under Tim Mara's watch. More HOFers under his watch, I just think he is a more significant part of the History of the NFL then was Wellington. Wellington was a heck of an owner as well but most of it was in place when he got it. John is not his father and not even an oil stain on his grandfathers shoes IMO. The one guy I would have liked to have included on the Giants list was George Marshall, who I thought was one of the greatest people in the History of the NFL and was so very important to the Cowboys franchise as well, but I just didn't think he was more important then the 4 listed.

 

[Miller]

Can there be a Larry Allen statue looking over the Mt. Rushmore?

 

[Offsides]

No mention of Barry. Barry Switzer is the last coach to lead them to a SB victory.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Can there be a Larry Allen statue looking over the Mt. Rushmore?

Well, as you may know, there are Big Ole Bears wondering around South Dakota so yeah, anything is possible.

 

[cowboyfan4life2]

Well, he was one of the original 5 franchise owners, he built the Giants from scratch (wasn't already done for him), it was the only 1 of the original 5 franchises that survived the modernization of the NFL, he had controlling interest in the Giants until 1991, when he sold out to Bob Tisch. Of the 8 Championships that were won by the Giants, 6 of them happened under Tim Mara's watch. More HOFers under his watch, I just think he is a more significant part of the History of the NFL then was Wellington. Wellington was a heck of an owner as well but most of it was in place when he got it. John is not his father and not even an oil stain on his grandfathers shoes IMO. The one guy I would have liked to have included on the Giants list was George Marshall, who I thought was one of the greatest people in the History of the NFL and was so very important to the Cowboys franchise as well, but I just didn't think he was more important then the 4 listed.

Interesting, I have to agree with everything that you said, I just put wellington in there, because he did a lot to insure the success of the league.

 

[12+88=7]

Landry
Staubach
Lilly
Schram

Landry, Schram, and Lilly were there from the beginning, and Staubach is the iconic player of the franchise.

The success of the franchise was built on the foundation of these four.