Twitter: The deal Dak turned down, new details

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Speculation but does it really matter? The JOnes' will make the decision they deem best for the organization and allow the season to play out to decide if Dak is truly the franchise QB and worth a big extension.
 

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The Cowboys' staredown with quarterback Dak Prescott was one of the dominant storylines of this unusual NFL offseason, with the mega-deal falling apart for what sources said was an unusual reason, and with the ramifications likely looming in Dallas for years.

Conversations with general managers, agents and team contract negotiators revealed a consensus about both the magnitude of the Cowboys' mistake with this negotiation -- several sources independently suggested it will cost owner Jerry Jones roughly $40M -- and general agreement about how it will impact the team in years to come. The sides did come relatively close to completing a long-term deal by the July deadline by which to extend the contract of a player on a franchise tag, but Prescott ultimately opted to play out 2020 on that tag in a move that is being heralded throughout the industry as one that will reap tremendous financial benefits for him in 2021 and beyond.

The Cowboys were insistent on a five-year salary structure for the quarterback, who had his most productive season in 2019, is surrounded by a strong supporting cast and is drawing some preseason hype as a potential MVP candidate this season. Jones has long sought to secure his top players to the longest term possible, and while Prescott's representation was intent on four years for much of the offseason, things changed near the July deadline, according to the sources. At that time Prescott would have accepted a five-year deal, worth about $35M a year, but only if it included a provision that he could not be franchise tagged at the conclusion of the deal. Jones would not agree to that language, sources said, and the deal fell through.

Since then Deshaun Watson secured a new contract extension with the Texans worth nearly $40M a season, and Patrick Mahomes, generally seen as the best player in the game, is locked in at $45M a year for the next 12 years. Barring catastrophic injury, Prescott's market value for 2021 seems pretty clear in the estimation of these GMs, agents and cap gurus: between $42M-$43M a season. The Cowboys will have no choice but to franchise tag Prescott, earning $31.4M this season, again in 2021 to secure his rights, which would lock in a $38M salary. That alone is nearly $70M for two years -- with no team control beyond 2021 -- compared to Mahomes earning $63M in the first three years of his new deal, with the Chiefs still controlling his rights into the next decade.


"No matter how you slice it, Jerry made a $40 million mistake," said one prominent agent who has negotiated top quarterback contracts but is not involved in Prescott's deal. "Just do the math. It's pretty simple. Prescott has them over a barrel."

"Based off everything I know of that situation, the Cowboys did themselves no favors," one GM offered. "Even when the cap goes up (expected perhaps by 2022 depending on COVID-19), $8 million a year is a big deal. That's like costing yourself a couple of starters or top backups at less-expensive positions. If you think you're competing for a Super Bowl, that's a big deal."

"This one seemed to get personal," another longtime NFL team exec said. "It should have been done before Watson and (Lamar) Jackson, whether it's four years or five years. And what happens if Prescott goes out and throws 40 TDs? The Cowboys were too stubborn for their own good."


"I don't know how Jerry was reading the quarterback market, but they read it all wrong," one salary negotiator said.

In reality, the likelihood of Prescott ever even reaching a point where a future franchise tag would matter in a five-year deal seemed remote to everyone I spoke to, with the changing NFL economic landscape and his performance setting up another extension by 2023 given the way QB contract dynamics normally work. And now it stands to cost the Cowboys dearly.

As owner Stephen Jones said of Prescott on his radio show on Friday, "He's bet on himself, and bet wisely."



Karma is a ***** !

Daktard will be lucky to be a back up next

The Cowboys don’t know it yet. But they have dodged a bullet
 

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After last nights game I think Jerry and Stephen might of save themselves from making a 40mil mistake with DAK. Goff looked worth the money and DAK looked like a QB struggling to get the money he wants.

What lol Dak had a better game then Goff. The better team won the game.
These are the stats. Lets not forget Dak was facing a lot more pressure then Goff also. I think Dak was hit 7 times vs Goff being hit 3.
Jared Goff 20/31 275yards 0td 1int
Dak Prescott 25/39 266yards 1td 0int

Dak wasn't the problem. Nice reach though.
 

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At this point, and I say this as a huge fan of Dak’s, maybe Jerry is just stubborn enough to rebuild the weak areas of the roster with cap space this summer and try to win a SB or go deep in the playoffs with an even stronger team, led by an aging veteran QB. That would not surprise me in the least.
 

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After last nights game I think Jerry and Stephen might of save themselves from making a 40mil mistake with DAK. Goff looked worth the money and DAK looked like a QB struggling to get the money he wants.

Takes like the above make it nice and easy to tell whose posts on this board you should pay attention to, and which ones you should skip going forward.
 

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im trying to remember what goff did last night to earn that money he makes.
Geoff is also over priced , but hey , he made it to a super bowl , and last night looked like a more proficient passer than Dak , but Geoff is not elite either .
 

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Good, he wasn't a $35 million QB last night, he once again didn't show up when we needed him most.
We all know Dak isn't the type of QB that can put his team on his back and will a win. Things have to go right, for him to be successful.
Brady, Rogers, Wilson and Brees are last ones.
 

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Geoff is also over priced , but hey , he made it to a super bowl , and last night looked like a more proficient passer than Dak , but Geoff is not elite either .

I think Dak looked way better. Made a bunch of throws under duress. They didn't really need Goff to do anything most of the game because the Dallas D was in a spin cycle.
 

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That’s called a $175 million happy accident. Dak is going to prove not worth half that by the time we’re all eating turkey and stuffing.
You might be right but I hope you wrong because it will be a long season if aren’t.
 

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We all know Dak isn't the type of QB that can put his team on his back and will a win. Things have to go right, for him to be successful.
Brady, Rogers, Wilson and Brees are last ones.
And a guy who needs everything to be perfect around him isn't a franchise QB, you can't pay a player like that that much money.
 

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What lol Dak had a better game then Goff. The better team won the game.
These are the stats. Lets not forget Dak was facing a lot more pressure then Goff also. I think Dak was hit 7 times vs Goff being hit 3.
Jared Goff 20/31 275yards 0td 1int
Dak Prescott 25/39 266yards 1td 0int

Dak wasn't the problem. Nice reach though.


Try looking at the per quarter breakdown and you will see that Goff was consistent for 3 of 4 quarters while Dak only had 1 good quarter.....that was the difference.
 

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This is 1000% Stephen Jones IMO........he should have locked the deal prior to 2019 season, even if you overpaid a bit. For example, Rogers was the highest-paid QB at $33M end of 2018, Matt Ryan was 2nd at $30. He could have made Dak the 2nd highest in $31-32M range. Imagine what that would like now.

Posters saying what he looked like last night are reaching. Dak's market is already secured at $35M+ regardless of what he does this season. Did you not read what the three experts said above? In others words, his skin's already on the wall.


https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/2018/average/quarterback/
 
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What lol Dak had a better game then Goff. The better team won the game.
These are the stats. Lets not forget Dak was facing a lot more pressure then Goff also. I think Dak was hit 7 times vs Goff being hit 3.
Jared Goff 20/31 275yards 0td 1int
Dak Prescott 25/39 266yards 1td 0int

Dak wasn't the problem. Nice reach though.
Dak claim to fame is all about stats. How bout winning playoff games and championships. Dak is a good QB but he is a Kirk cousins in a Cowboy uniform
 

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Takes like the above make it nice and easy to tell whose posts on this board you should pay attention to, and which ones you should skip going forward.

what has DAK done and won. Don’t say stats like everyone else. How many games has he beat teams over 500. Not to many. QB that want 40mil a year need to win championships not the stats game
 
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