The defense will be better with Zeke

[Rogerthat12]

Well yeah you don't include playoff games because you are making a league ranking and not all teams make the playoffs. The playoffs are essentially a different league because only 12 teams make it.

You do include the entire season, OT and playoff games basically all the games played as reflective of their TOP numbers.

Dallas for the 2014 year had TOP average of 32 minutes per game, sorry, NFL.com shares the facts.

Baseless attacks of sources will not help in this matter!

1Dallas Cowboys32 525 54.69%
2Pittsburgh Steelers32 518 53.96%
3Seattle Seahawks32 517 53.85%
4Carolina Panthers31 516 53.75%
5Indianapolis Colts31 510 53.13%
6Detroit Lions31 507 52.81%
7San Francisco 49ers31 507 52.81%
8Houston Texans30 497 51.77%
9New York Jets30 496 51.67%
10San Diego Chargers30 495 51.56%
11Denver Broncos30 492 51.25%
12Washington Commanders30 492 51.25%
13New York Giants30 491 51.15%
14New Orleans Saints30 489 50.94%
15Cincinnati Bengals30 488 50.83%
16Green Bay Packers30 488 50.83%
17Chicago Bears30 483 50.31%
18Miami Dolphins30 482 50.21%
19Kansas City Chiefs29 479 49.9%
20Arizona Cardinals29 476 49.58%
21Buffalo Bills29 475 49.48%
22Baltimore Ravens29 474 49.38%
23New England Patriots29 473 49.27%
24Atlanta Falcons29 471 49.06%
25St. Louis Rams29 467 48.65%
26Minnesota Vikings28 461 48.02%
27Oakland Raiders28 453 47.19%
28Cleveland Browns28 451 46.98%
29Tennessee Titans27 440 45.83%
30Tampa Bay Buccaneers27 436 45.42%
31Jacksonville Jaguars27 435 45.31%
32Philadelphia Eagles26 426 44.38%

A simple NFL.com search under team and 2014 year stats confirm these numbers Steelers were 32:24 right under Dallas, wash, rinse, repeat on down the list!

 

[Idgit]

If Zeke is the RB that many feel he is ,and he rushes for over 100 yards in a game, Dallas will win 75% of those games. That should make you feel better at some level. Well, maybe not.

You're certainly entitled to believe that.

If Romo's back, and we have quality QB play, it won't matter because we'll win anyway. If you want to think it's the RB that does it, that's no skin off my back.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Nfl.com Teams Stats Time of Possession for 2014 season

TOP

Dallas: 32:50
Steelers: 32:24
Seattle: 32.20
Panthers: 32:16
Colts: 31:54

Top five and all are correct, this according to official teams stats for the 2014 season!

 

[Idgit]

You don't know what you're talking about anymore than he does. He can use all the help he can get from his believers so fire away. What he's trying to sell many aren't buying. You're just one of those he's got wrapped around his finger.

You're right that I'm 100% convinced he knows what he's talking about and 100% convinced that you're wrong. What can I say? I like my opinions supported by what actually happens on the field.

I know from experience you're not going to stop. I don't want to wind you up any more than necessary. I just wanted to offer my $.02 that you're getting rag-dolled here.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You do include the entire season, OT and playoff games basically all the games played as reflective of their TOP numbers.

Dallas for the 2014 year had TOP average of 32 minutes per game, sorry, NFL.com shares the facts.

Baseless attacks of sources will not help in this matter!

1Dallas Cowboys32 525 54.69%
2Pittsburgh Steelers32 518 53.96%
3Seattle Seahawks32 517 53.85%
4Carolina Panthers31 516 53.75%
5Indianapolis Colts31 510 53.13%
6Detroit Lions31 507 52.81%
7San Francisco 49ers31 507 52.81%
8Houston Texans30 497 51.77%
9New York Jets30 496 51.67%
10San Diego Chargers30 495 51.56%
11Denver Broncos30 492 51.25%
12Washington Commanders30 492 51.25%
13New York Giants30 491 51.15%
14New Orleans Saints30 489 50.94%
15Cincinnati Bengals30 488 50.83%
16Green Bay Packers30 488 50.83%
17Chicago Bears30 483 50.31%
18Miami Dolphins30 482 50.21%
19Kansas City Chiefs29 479 49.9%
20Arizona Cardinals29 476 49.58%
21Buffalo Bills29 475 49.48%
22Baltimore Ravens29 474 49.38%
23New England Patriots29 473 49.27%
24Atlanta Falcons29 471 49.06%
25St. Louis Rams29 467 48.65%
26Minnesota Vikings28 461 48.02%
27Oakland Raiders28 453 47.19%
28Cleveland Browns28 451 46.98%
29Tennessee Titans27 440 45.83%
30Tampa Bay Buccaneers27 436 45.42%
31Jacksonville Jaguars27 435 45.31%
32Philadelphia Eagles26 426 44.38%

A simple NFL.com search under team and 2014 year stats confirm these numbers Steelers were 32:24 right under Dallas, wash, rinse, repeat on down the list!

The source set is not the same. Playoffs are a different environment with disproportionate byes, lesser number of teams, a different time of year and number of games.

I don't really care. The distinction is minutiae. It changes the overall point naught either way. An NFL team does not need to run the ball to be successful including the Dallas Cowboys. Romo can throw 3 step drop patterns. He chas gotten better about holding onto the ball and chucking it.

 

[Rogerthat12]

The source set is not the same. Playoffs are a different environment with disproportionate byes, lesser number of teams, a different time of year and number of games.

I don't really care. The distinction is minutiae. It changes the overall point naught either way. An NFL team does not need to run the ball to be successful including the Dallas Cowboys. Romo can throw 3 step drop patterns. He chas gotten better about holding onto the ball and chucking it.

The NFL.COM stats are the same on TOP but more specific, they confirm the numbers from the other site and are undeniable in terms of source, go have a look see!

If you dispute the NFL.COM numbers, you are simply being dishonest.

Romo is better with a dominant running attack, limits pass attempts and interceptions.

When Romo has to do it all, we all know what happens and this is coming from a Romo fan.

The single 12-4 season in recent memory featured an 1800 yard performance, I think the rest in recent memory are 8-8 or 4-12 conceding QB play was the major factor in the latter.

You do not need that many yards to win but an effective running game simply makes Romo better, to deny this is stupid.

Ultimately, the Dallas Cowboys organization views a dominant running game as essential by committing a top 4 first round resource and substantive financial currency to the position.

 

[jnday]

You're certainly entitled to believe that.

If Romo's back, and we have quality QB play, it won't matter because we'll win anyway. If you want to think it's the RB that does it, that's no skin off my back.

I don't just think that. That is an actual stat from NFL.Com IIRC. Do you remember the percentage of games that Dallas won when Emmit rushed for over 100 yards? It was just about certain that the Cowboys would win when he did. I am not knocking the role of the passing game. I do have an issue with those posters that say a rushing game has no impact on this team . This team is built for the power running game . That is the offense that they have chose to run. I find it hard to believe that anybody would dismiss it after seeing all of the oline draft picks and the latest draft pick at RB. If Dallas fails at the one thing that the team was built for , it will be an epic failure.

 

[KJJ]

You're right that I'm 100% convinced he knows what he's talking about and 100% convinced that you're wrong. What can I say? I like my opinions supported by what actually happens on the field.

I know from experience you're not going to stop. I don't want to wind you up any more than necessary. I just wanted to offer my $.02 that you're getting rag-dolled here.

Anytime you claim I'm getting rag-dolled I know I'm pitching a shutout. lol If you really believed what you spew you wouldn't keep jumping in to lend your support. He has you and a few others under his spell and it's pretty amusing when he snaps his fingers how it makes some of you jump. lol If he knew what he was talking about the Cowboys wouldn't have taken Zeke with the #4 overall pick and most of the experts wouldn't have agreed with the pick. The Cowboys chose Zeke and most everyone who knows football agreed with it for all the reasons I've given...nuff said!

 

[Idgit]

I don't just think that. That is an actual stat from NFL.Com IIRC. Do you remember the percentage of games that Dallas won when Emmit rushed for over 100 yards? It was just about certain that the Cowboys would win when he did. I am not knocking the role of the passing game. I do have an issue with those posters that say a rushing game has no impact on this team . This team is built for the power running game . That is the offense that they have chose to run. I find it hard to believe that anybody would dismiss it after seeing all of the oline draft picks and the latest draft pick at RB. If Dallas fails at the one thing that the team was built for , it will be an epic failure.

The yardage correlation has been talked about many times because teams that are ahead run the ball to force the other team to use timeouts to stop the clock and because it's the easiest way to preserve a passing differential advantage since you can't throw picks and you don't get strip-sacked. But you don't get the leads to begin with unless you can pass effectively or you're really hard to pass against.

For the record again, the argument has *never* been that the rushing game is not important. The argument is that rushing more effectively (outside of short yardage/goal line) does not help you win a higher percentage of the time. But you always need the rushing game for situational football and to get into convertible downs and distances, but being better at running the football than the other guy is not a significant advantage when it comes to winning games. You get a very similar benefit from a pedestrian rusher that you get from a great one. This does not include pass protection or the impact of RBs in the passing game.

The team, though, has been built to support Romo, and not necessarily a power running game.

Anytime you claim I'm getting rag-dolled I know I'm pitching a shutout. lol If you really believed what you spew you wouldn't keep jumping in to lend your support. He has you and a few others under his spell and it's pretty amusing when he snaps his fingers how it makes some of you jump. lol If he knew what he was talking about the Cowboys wouldn't have taken Zeke with the #4 overall pick and most of the experts wouldn't have agreed with the pick. The Cowboys chose Zeke and most everyone who knows football agreed with it for all the reasons I've given...nuff said!

woof-woof. You're not convincing anybody of anything. But have at it because I'm not getting on the merry-go-round.

 

[jnday]

The yardage correlation has been talked about many times because teams that are ahead run the ball to force the other team to use timeouts to stop the clock and because it's the easiest way to preserve a passing differential advantage since you can't throw picks and you don't get strip-sacked. But you don't get the leads to begin with unless you can pass effectively or you're really hard to pass against.

For the record again, the argument has *never* been that the rushing game is not important. The argument is that rushing more effectively (outside of short yardage/goal line) does not help you win a higher percentage of the time. But you always need the rushing game for situational football and to get into convertible downs and distances, but being better at running the football than the other guy is not a significant advantage when it comes to winning games. You get a very similar benefit from a pedestrian rusher that you get from a great one. This does not include pass protection or the impact of RBs in the passing game.

The team, though, has been built to support Romo, and not necessarily a power running team.

I disagree . The offensive line is much better at run blocking than pass protection. A big, physical line is made for rushing. Usually a quicker , finesse line is better at pass blocking. I also think that the offense will be better running the football as something more than situational football. With a great RB, running the ball becomes a legit scoring threat at any time. If this offense was geared towards passing, they would draft a much better WR group. As it stands, the offense is duplicating the 90's Cowboys. Those teams was not passing teams. They ran s very balanced offense. There has been many doubts about Aikman being in the HOF by NFL fans due to his low number of pass attempts. Of course the passing game is important, but this offense does not depend on the pass when they have a good RB.

 

[ConstantReboot]

It is a simple concept. One I have been telling people for years. But drafting an offensive player does not improve the defense. It simply allows you to possibly keep them off the field. Once they get on the field, they are not any better than they were before. Only by drafting a stud pass rusher or CB can you actually improve that side of the ball.

What stud passrusher or CB? Bosa is not a stud. Ramsey would not have been the impact player we all needed. I would have loved to draft a passrusher at #4. But the Cowboys got this one right for once. Zeke will make an impact this year.

 

[Vintage]

Someone go thru this thread and count the number of times KJJ used the word "experts."

I'm setting the over/under at 8.

I've got the over.

 

[morasp]

You really wouldnt be laughing in my face. you are a fraud that has never gotten anywhere close to a football field sideline. I played the game for 8 years and have forgotten more about football than you ever knew.

I just got season four of the beverly hillbillies last night and was blown away by the quality of the transfer, almost blu ray. Amazon had it on sale.

 

[CowboyRoy]

It is just fine if you have a top 1 or 2 Offense.

Not the type of defense I would build.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You really wouldnt be laughing in my face. you are a fraud that has never gotten anywhere close to a football field sideline. I played the game for 8 years and have forgotten more about football than you ever knew.

This just gets better and better. You think you are a scout, you are now an internet tough guy, and you think you can tell how much football everyone has or hasnt played.

Ok..................this is me completely laughing in your face!!!

 

[bsheeern]

If you can run and stop the run but can't pass or stop the pass, you have no chance.

If you can pass and stop the pass but can't run or stop the run, you have a very good chance.

If you can do both, your chances are marginally better -- they're better, but not by a whole lot.

So yes, being great at everything is ideal. But the most important thing is to be able to pass better than your opponent.

I think its better to be able to score more than your opponent.

 

[bsheeern]

Of course Elliott improved the team. Anyone we picked at No. 4 (out of the realistic options) would have improved the team except a quarterback. Everyone else would be better than whoever he replaced in the starting lineup.

But again, no matter how well Elliott rushes this season, the vast majority of our games will be decided by whether we pass better than our opponent. That's how it is every season for every team, no matter how well they run the ball.

I guess in a nut shell what most are thinking is that Elliott helps this team pass better because he's going to pose a bigger threat to opposing defenses. On the flip side of that He will also help the defense because If the game comes down to the Offense needing to have a ball control mentality then he can bring more to the power game than McFadden and more to the Passing Game than Morris. Thus keeping Let's say a Brady or Rodgers off the Field and Limiting their chances at scoring.

 

[bsheeern]

You're certainly entitled to believe that.

If Romo's back, and we have quality QB play, it won't matter because we'll win anyway. If you want to think it's the RB that does it, that's no skin off my back.

To be Fair, I'm pretty certain we won at around 75-85% of the time if Murray rushed for 100 yards.....I might be wrong

 

[Sydla]

There's nothing better than the guy who drops the line, "forgotten more about football than you ever knew".

 

[bsheeern]

LOL.

Again, if you really want to believe that the defense was poor in 2015 because they saw McFadden playing TB and now will play great again because they see Elliott at TB, knock yourself out.

The defense will play greatly or poorly regardless of what Elliott does or does not do.

I strongly disagree. One side of the ball greatly affects the other and Elliott can have a vast impact on our offense.