The Dez Bryant "Realistic Analysis" Thread

[SilverStarCowboy]

Dez is a potential dummy... fo sho'!

He's a problem guy with some talent that is why he slid to Dallas in the draft.

Still, while the Dallas Front Office is severely lacking, this move gets a passing grade.

Ironically though the stress of managing a pick like Bryant is exactly what Jerry asked for.

 

[jterrell]

Dez is a potential dummy... fo sho'!

He's a problem guy with some talent that is why he slid to Dallas in the draft.

Still, while the Dallas Front Office is severely lacking, this move gets a passing grade.

Ironically though the stress of managing a pick like Bryant is exactly what Jerry asked for.

Anyone knocking Jerry for the Dez pick is delusional. After Randy Moss and the struggles we faced to find a top flight WR Dez was a no brainer pick at 24. Again, the key is at 24.

Going forward Dez has to decide what type of business decision he wants to make. If he focuses intensely on football and shows up at mini-camps ready to rock he probably makes himself 8 mil a year, long-term, on the next deal. If not he will get some incentive-laden tripe that is actually worth about half that. He has 25 to 30 million reasons to get his stuff together.

 

[JackWagon]

Anyone knocking Jerry for the Dez pick is delusional. After Randy Moss and the struggles we faced to find a top flight WR Dez was a no brainer pick at 24. Again, the key is at 24.

Going forward Dez has to decide what type of business decision he wants to make. If he focuses intensely on football and shows up at mini-camps ready to rock he probably makes himself 8 mil a year, long-term, on the next deal. If not he will get some incentive-laden tripe that is actually worth about half that. He has 25 to 30 million reasons to get his stuff together.

Disagree ... the 2010 24th pick would have been better spent on a defensive front 7 player.

 

[bigboi]

Disagree ... the 2010 24th pick would have been better spent on a defensive front 7 player.

Who ?

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I've been realistically analyzing him for 2 years now. All of you were saying "LOL R2A U LOVE MILES, DEZ BE TOP 5 WR IN 3 DAYS AND 25 MINUTES."

If there is one thing absolutely for certain on these forums it's that you DO NOT, ever, do any realistic analyzing on these forums. Especially when it comes to the topic of Dez Bryant and how he might steal some of the spotlight and shine off your pet.

you're entitled to say someone sucks but you have no idea as to why? you just parakeet media we know to be full of it?

yea, you're entitled to it for sure. but you just admitted you have no idea what you're talking about and don't care.

nice.

He needed to admit this to confirm to everyone that he has no idea what he's talking about and doesn't care that he doesn't?

I figured that was pretty much common knowledge by reading his posts.

 

[CowboySwagger]

Disagree ... the 2010 24th pick would have been better spent on a defensive front 7 player.

Really the front 7?...........please read post 55 to see the VALUE Dez has brought to this team with a "realistic analysis" of his production, in less games and less targeted has similar production than top flight recievers in thier first 2 seasons.

 

[BigStar]

Third best receiver? Why do other teams seem to think they have to double our third best receiver while leaving Austin and Robinson in 1 on 1's?

 

[baj1dallas]

. He has had ample time to learn what routes he is supposed to run.

This is not really true. Look how long it took Robinson to even stick to a team. Remember when people used to say drafting a WR high was a bad move because it took them 2-3 seasons to learn the game? Dez simply had more to learn than polished guys like Megatron, Fitzgerald, and AJ Green. He did not come from a program with a history of developing pro WRs and he simply hadn't played a lot of football when he was drafted. This is a large part of why he slid, not just the more titillating "character" concerns.

Dez made improvements in route running as the year went on. He should be even better with more time to get in sync with Romo next season. He should just be getting close to entering his prime.

So far Dez has been exactly what a reasonable person might expect. Similarly there's no reason to expect him to not to continue to improve and become more productive. Especially if the offensive line can give Romo time to look downfield now and then.

 

[hornitosmonster]

Dez is like the 6th or 7th best WR in the NFC East. Forget being on of the top in the NFL...

The two from Philly, Miles, Nicks, and Cruz.

 

[iceberg]

Dez is a potential dummy... fo sho'!

He's a problem guy with some talent that is why he slid to Dallas in the draft.

Still, while the Dallas Front Office is severely lacking, this move gets a passing grade.

Ironically though the stress of managing a pick like Bryant is exactly what Jerry asked for.

except that "stress" comes from idiots who shout DEZ ONLY KNOWS 3 ROUTES - which is 3 more than the idiot does.

 

[jazzcat22]

:bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: OK..I did not read any of these post...when I see a Dez thread, especially when it says it's not not Dez bashing thread......BS BS BS...becuase thats exactly what you want and what it turns into......:bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

 

[Cowboy Brian]

]If there is one thing absolutely for certain on these forums it's that you DO NOT, ever, do any realistic analyzing on these forums. Especially when it comes to the topic of Dez Bryant and how he might steal some of the spotlight and shine off your pet.



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He needed to admit this to confirm to everyone that he has no idea what he's talking about and doesn't care that he doesn't?

I figured that was pretty much common knowledge by reading his posts.

Lets see; I said that on the field he would become a good player however he would not become "Top 5 player in 3 weeks" as some of you guys ridiculously claimed. I said his poor route running and off the field issues would hold him back.

Hm? Sounds 100% accurate about now.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Lets see; I said that on the field he would become a good player however he would not become "Top 5 player in 3 weeks" as some of you guys ridiculously claimed. I said his poor route running and off the field issues would hold him back.

Hm? Sounds 100% accurate about now.

No it's not because his route running has clearly improved over the course of this past season. He wasn't arrested or charged so this was clearly another one of those something made of nothing by the mediots.

 

[Verdict]

It is not so much that I think that Dez sucks, but it would appear to be a very dicey decision to give Dez a big contract based on the factors identified in the original post. I would also concede that if we don't resign him, he might put it all together, so there is also a risk in not doing so.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Dez is like the 6th or 7th best WR in the NFC East. Forget being on of the top in the NFL...

The two from Philly, Miles, Nicks, and Cruz.

Even if that were true all that shows is the NFC East is stacked with good recievers. I'll take Dez over Nicks. Obviously Nicks has better stats, but that's due to the fact that he's targeted alot more. Cruz had an excellent year, but he didn't face many double team's which why he was constantly open. Jackson is one dimensional and a nutcase. Miles may be better, but he was injured all season and his 2010 season wasn't any better than Dez's season this year. As for Maclin he's very consistent, but doesn't have the big play ability Dez has IMO.

Call me crazy or a homer, but I think Dez is the best wideout in a division full of stacked wideouts.

 

[tyke1doe]

Call me crazy or a homer, but I think Dez is the best wideout in a division full of stacked wideouts.

No need to call you crazy. Homer will due.

 

[slomoxn]

The same thing was said about T.O. I have no independent personal knowledge about DEZ, but the repetitive lapses indicate that either he is dumber than a box of rocks, OR has some sort of personality disorder, or both. If he has certain types of personality disorders, then his issues will continue to pop up and get worse, unless he is treated for them (and maybe even if he does).

Outside of being an idiot in the clubhouse can anyone tell me what TO did off field???

 

[slomoxn]

Even if that were true all that shows is the NFC East is stacked with good recievers. I'll take Dez over Nicks. Obviously Nicks has better stats, but that's due to the fact that he's targeted alot more. Cruz had an excellent year, but he didn't face many double team's which why he was constantly open. Jackson is one dimensional and a nutcase. Miles may be better, but he was injured all season and his 2010 season wasn't any better than Dez's season this year. As for Maclin he's very consistent, but doesn't have the big play ability Dez has IMO.

Call me crazy or a homer, but I think Dez is the best wideout in a division full of stacked wideouts.

As much as I like Miles Austin I was in th minority of Dallas signing him long term to big money. He could have been a few very good draft picks, along with the fact that he is always hurt. I know the injuries are not his fault as hamstring injuries happen but still, having big money tied into a player that spends 1/3 of the season on the sideline is not very beneficial.

 

[Yuma Cactus]

WR's usually have their breakout in year 3 (if it is going to happen). Dez will have a full, healthy off-season with arguably the best WR coach in the biz. By all accounts 2012 will be a huge year for Dez.

 

[interestedobserver]

No one questions Dez's talent. He's a head case. Sometimes players outgrow that to become productive players. TO was a very productive head case until he got old, although he had Jerry Rice to teach him in the beginning.

That's why character matters and it's also why Dez fell in the draft.

Slightly different issue, but Vontaze Burfict is a damn talented LB who is another head case. Teams can't get too many athletic head cases or they become the Raiders. But a couple can be managed.