The Eagles Process vs The Cowboys Process

[Billyd]

No Romo, Witten, Bryant and Bailey. We will find out what Garrett is really made of.

I thought you already knew!

 

[wssaustin]

Wonder if you watched All or Nothing last season.

It was pretty clear Cowboys as a franchise is Jones' family business first. What was Jones' doing the day before they play Seattle? In Jerrry World, they were having a Texas High School Champ game Stephen's son plays QB. It was an emotional night for Jones' family, but how much effort and focus was left for next day's Cowboys game where season is on the line? Don't tell me that's not a distraction.

They appear to be very eager to win, however deep down, it is more or less a family business. We care about this football team, but Jones care very little about fans.

The coaches are there to do their job, players went there to earn money. It is one of the best franchise to work for in NFL for them, not so much to win championship.

Just me but my frustration with the Cowboys ( mostly Stephen Jones )

**don't feel a sense of urgency

**waaay too financially conservative in acquiring needed quality talent and I'm not talking about going for big-time free agents but damn you have to spend a little to get quality. Stephen seems downright stingy at times

 

[atlantacowboy]

Then the conversation is over because what I said is fact.

Then you don't know the difference between a fact and a baseless opinion.

 

[Idgit]

This isn’t really a comparison with the Cowboys, is it? It’s about the Eagles, and we’re supposed to just fill in the blanks with the same ******** were always guessing about with Dallas and how that’s bad.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Interesting read... love an aggressive, smart front office. Hate that it's the Eagles.

The Cowboys FO is way too passive IMO. We either are too optimistic about our own players (SEE Tight End and Safety) or poor at self-evaluation. Smart teams use all avenues of talent acquisition. Building through the draft should be the basis of your strategy, but not your only strategy.

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/...rson-jeffrey-lurie-howie-roseman-carson-wentz


Flame on!

And, co-conspirator, other FOs will express displeasure at team and individuals performance. In Dallas, the FO apologizes for poor effort.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

This isn’t really a comparison with the Cowboys, is it? It’s about the Eagles, and we’re supposed to just fill in the blanks with the same bull**** were always guessing about with Dallas and how that’s bad.

Silent!
Men are talking.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Where were all of these great orations about the Eagles last year? They were saying Pederson was a substandard coach and Wentz looked like he had a long ways to go. The Eagles are the flavor of the month and not nearly as good as some people think. At this time last year the Cowboys FO was getting praise for having a top running back and quarterback on rookie deals and rebuilding the secondary in one draft. If Dallas wins the division this year while Philly finishes at .500 then next summer the articles will be all about the great future of the Cowboys and the questionable decisions of the Eagles.

It's all about the flavor of the month.

Ah, yes! Fantasy land.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Where were all of these great orations about the Eagles last year? They were saying Pederson was a substandard coach and Wentz looked like he had a long ways to go. The Eagles are the flavor of the month and not nearly as good as some people think. At this time last year the Cowboys FO was getting praise for having a top running back and quarterback on rookie deals and rebuilding the secondary in one draft. If Dallas wins the division this year while Philly finishes at .500 then next summer the articles will be all about the great future of the Cowboys and the questionable decisions of the Eagles.

It's all about the flavor of the month.

Where were all those accolades when Bill Belichick went 5-11 his first year in New England? Or when people were harping in Pete Carroll because he was just dodging NCAAA ramifications and won’t cut it in the nfl? Or when Desean Watson’s college coach said if you pas on him in the draft, it’s like passing on Michael Jordan?

Everyone starts at the bottom. It’s odd to blame someone for getting out of it quicker than expected.

 

[Number1]

Eagles have a ring, we're years away from one.

all sorts of weird teams have won SBs of late ... thank the competition committee for that, that the likes of either ATL or PHL ever got to a SB is sheer luck

I fully expect the Boys to manhandle the Eagles - did you watch them tonight? that was not a great team

the Boys have a very talented team via a combo of choices and sheer luck. this year we have an excellent shot - why?
JJ is a gambler, sooner or later luck hits often in streaks - no brilliance, a decent FO, but hardly the idiots some claim
don't like it? ... well, real change (whoever the coaches are) won't happen until JJ gives up the reigns - that's still many years away

that's just what that is - so talking about the "Cowboys Process" is all about gambling,
what were the odds Lee, Lawrence, Smith, and Gregory will start Sunday?
does that make JJ brilliant? does the collapse of Chaz Green make the his FO stupid?

does Ryan choking in a playoff game? or NE's busted D make the Giggles' FO brilliant?
the same idiots drafted Wentz when they should've just given the ball to Foles long ago

the quoted article reads:"Last summer I asked a defensive coordinator from a well-respected team how to defend a run-pass option, and he didn’t understand the concept"

ummm ... that's not credible - it's not even a half baked lie - just straight BS - just like the whole notion the Giggles are light years ahead of the whole NFL

 

[beware_d-ware]

Wonder if you watched All or Nothing last season.

It was pretty clear Cowboys as a franchise is Jones' family business first. What was Jones' doing the day before they play Seattle? In Jerrry World, they were having a Texas High School Champ game Stephen's son plays QB. It was an emotional night for Jones' family, but how much effort and focus was left for next day's Cowboys game where season is on the line? Don't tell me that's not a distraction.

They appear to be very eager to win, however deep down, it is more or less a family business. We care about this football team, but Jones care very little about fans.

The coaches are there to do their job, players went there to earn money. It is one of the best franchise to work for in NFL for them, not so much to win championship.

Who cares if Jerry is "motivated" or "focused" for the game? If he didn't even show up for the game, it wouldn't make an iota of difference.

 

[jay94]

Where were all of these great orations about the Eagles last year? They were saying Pederson was a substandard coach and Wentz looked like he had a long ways to go. The Eagles are the flavor of the month and not nearly as good as some people think. At this time last year the Cowboys FO was getting praise for having a top running back and quarterback on rookie deals and rebuilding the secondary in one draft. If Dallas wins the division this year while Philly finishes at .500 then next summer the articles will be all about the great future of the Cowboys and the questionable decisions of the Eagles.

It's all about the flavor of the month.

There is only one team that made more trades than the Eagles, your hatred for this pewtrid team makes you blind, they got very good players from trades and Fa acquistions.

 

[plasticman]

This is rich, the Law of Averages finally catch up to the Eagles and they win a Super Bowl. They have now mastered the NFL! Just stop.

All they did was reduce the echo in their Super Bowl Trophy room.

They beat Atlanta when Matt Ryan couldn't complete a pass from the Eagle 2 yard line with a minute left. They took the lead in the Super Bowl against the Patriots with two minutes left. They deserve credit for those great wins but did they "master" these two teams?

It was their turn to win a Super Bowl decades ago and the Cowboys took it for them. Sooner or later mathematical probability is going to have to be satisfied. That's the only thing the Eagles did last season.

 

[Carter]

This is rich, the Law of Averages finally catch up to the Eagles and they win a Super Bowl. They have now mastered the NFL! Just stop.

All they did was reduce the echo in their Super Bowl Trophy room.

They beat Atlanta when Matt Ryan couldn't complete a pass from the Eagle 2 yard line with a minute left. They took the lead in the Super Bowl against the Patriots with two minutes left. They deserve credit for those great wins but did they "master" these two teams?

It was their turn to win a Super Bowl decades ago and the Cowboys took it for them. Sooner or later mathematical probability is going to have to be satisfied. That's the only thing the Eagles did last season.

So in theory the Cowboys would be on the Clock since there arent many Teams left who havent won or been to a Superbowl as Long as the Cowboys. I wait and see if that happens with JJ and Garrett. Everything indicates it will never happen ever with These Clowns running the Show.

 

[csirl]

The final step in the 20 year "process" is that the team gets a new coaching staff and wins the SB.

 

[Idgit]

Silent!
Men are talking.

Right? The thing I really want to hear about on the lead up to week one is a discussion about how the Cowboys process is so much worse than the Eagles process, based only on a fluff piece about the Eagles having won the most recent Superbowl. If we just assume the status quo, there's no reason to even watch the games. Or am I missing something?

 

[ItzKelz]

Then you don't know the difference between a fact and a baseless opinion.

Example of a fact is Nick Foles only had one good game on film from last season going into the Superbowl.

 

[Diehardblues]

With Jerry and Garrett being content with mediocrity, that's a tough hurdle to over come.

Now Jerry has another priority..... investing into the casino business....The game of football in Jerry's mind has dropped another rung on the ladder.

Yes, it is tough to overcome. Jerry can sell the heck out of 8-8.

They are more worried about falling to 4-12 than getting to 12-4 which has become an euphoric milestone.

You can see the excitement from Jerry just reaching the playoffs. No one has marketed mediocrity better than the Jone$.

 

[charron]

Interesting read... love an aggressive, smart front office. Hate that it's the Eagles.

The Cowboys FO is way too passive IMO. We either are too optimistic about our own players (SEE Tight End and Safety) or poor at self-evaluation. Smart teams use all avenues of talent acquisition. Building through the draft should be the basis of your strategy, but not your only strategy.

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/...rson-jeffrey-lurie-howie-roseman-carson-wentz


Flame on!

Untill last year we all laughed how the eagles would win the offseasoff by signing overpriced free agents, stupid trades etc. It's worked 1 year for them but hats off to them for trying to get better talent every year.

 

[visionary]

This is rich, the Law of Averages finally catch up to the Eagles and they win a Super Bowl. They have now mastered the NFL! Just stop.

All they did was reduce the echo in their Super Bowl Trophy room.

They beat Atlanta when Matt Ryan couldn't complete a pass from the Eagle 2 yard line with a minute left. They took the lead in the Super Bowl against the Patriots with two minutes left. They deserve credit for those great wins but did they "master" these two teams?

It was their turn to win a Super Bowl decades ago and the Cowboys took it for them. Sooner or later mathematical probability is going to have to be satisfied. That's the only thing the Eagles did last season.

Your name should be Rubberman the way you contort yourself to make excuses for Garrett and Jerry

 

[sweetness0986]

If we don’t win a playoff game, Jason Garrett will not be the coach next year. There’s no way they can keep making excuses for him.