The great Belichick

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Huh??? The Broncos were 8-8 the year before Manning arrived. Manning arrives and they immediately went 13-3 and were in the SB in 2 of his 4 seasons in Denver.... so what are you talking about? Yep, Brees found Gold once... why? Because Wilson, Rodgers, Manning, Manning, Brady and other HOF QBs were finding gold as well.
Saying Marino was talented and since he didnt win my argument is invalid.. yeah, he didnt win a SB, and neither did Dan Fouts...... being a HOF QB is no guarantee to win, it only ensures you will be in the hunt.
BUt Ill repeat it again.. all of these coaches are good... ALL of them. Some are just blessed to land Herbert.

The question isnt if Brady would have won if he went to the Jags, but would the Bucs have won if they didnt land Brady... and that is an EASY answer, and a big NO WAY. They hadnt even made the playoffs in the previous 11 years..... yet they had the great arians the year before, didnt they.

Broncos brought 8n kubiak, and won. Coaches matter. Won with defense btw.

 

[Reid1boys]

Broncos brought 8n kubiak, and won. Coaches matter. Won with defense btw.

so you think the Broncos won the SB because they brought in Kubiak?
bahahahaahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahaahahhahahahahahahhaha.

Have a nice day, no need to continue this with you.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

I think this Mac kid shows a lot of promise. I suspect the Patriots with Belichick aren't quite done yet.

 

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so you think the Broncos won the SB because they brought in Kubiak?
bahahahaahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahaahahhahahahahahahhaha.

Have a nice day, no need to continue this with you.

didnt get the job done with Jon Fox / High powered offense with Manning, did they?

What changed? The Coach.

Just have the sack to admit you are wrong.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Meh. Unless you have an outstanding defense you always need at least a top ten QB to win a SB.

 

[sean10mm]

Belichick is a great coach, but the cult of personality around him with fans and the media got silly. He's not a magical win generator who doesn't need talent on the roster. Every previous coach who had a dynasty type of multi title run needed a real QB too. He's no different in that respect. So him going 7-9 with Cam's rotting husk and 2-3 with a rookie is hardly a stunner.

He's also the GM, and was never as good a GM as he was a head coach. He was always bad at acquiring wide receivers unless he lucked out shopping in the bargain bin (Moss and Welker cost nothing for how good they were, Edelman was a late round project that paid off years later, Gronk fell into his lap in the draft, etc.) and Brady got sick of throwing to scrubs his last 2 seasons.

Then he compounted it by betting on Brady being washed up in 2019 because he looked bad without any wide receivers or tight ends, and lost that bet badly. In reality it was a replay of 2013 where Brady's making 12-4 or whatever out of nothing but the Kenbrell Thompkins's of the world. But in a vacuum who is betting on a QB being in the MVP race at 44?