The insanity of this FO

[glimmerman]

One player isn’t going to get us a SB.. would he be a upgrade? Yes.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

Garrett won't get us to the SB.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Conventional wisdom in the NFL says the absolute best time to compete and win titles is with a good QB on a rookie contract. We have that. This year and next. This is the time to strike. Yet Jerry and son are content to with the status quo. Content to roll out scrubs at safety instead of spending the $. The money saved on Dez’s contract pays for Earl. Earl makes this defense a top 5 unit. Who cares that we give up a third. A third rounder is what got us Chaz Green. Spend the damn money.

Dallas is NOT a legitimate SB contender. Mortgaging the future for this current team would be a waste. They are actually doing the right thing by being conservative. They finally have cleared some nice cap space going into next season. A better time to play FA if we need a piece or two.

 

[northerncowboynation]

 

[Whyjerry]

Dallas is NOT a legitimate SB contender. Mortgaging the future for this current team would be a waste. They are actually doing the right thing by being conservative. They finally have cleared some nice cap space going into next season. A better time to play FA if we need a piece or two.

Agreed. They have a sterling record with FAs and it is only year 9 of the process.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

Agreed. They have a sterling record with FAs and it is only year 9 of the process.

i agree .
9 years, and we cannot see the light.

pederson is in his 2nd year, about to start his 3rd.

the contrast.

 

[links18]

Have you ever had the thought that, idk, maybe... they HAVE thought of that, and Seattle’s asking price is just too high?

If you think ET gives you a legitimate shot at winning the SB (not saying he actually does) you treat Seattle's asking price like you would the $1000 quote at NTB to fix your brakes in the middle of a 1500 mile trip on Labor Day weekend, you groan and break out the credit card.

 

[Jake]

Conventional wisdom in the NFL says the absolute best time to compete and win titles is with a good QB on a rookie contract. We have that. This year and next. This is the time to strike. Yet Jerry and son are content to with the status quo. Content to roll out scrubs at safety instead of spending the $. The money saved on Dez’s contract pays for Earl. Earl makes this defense a top 5 unit. Who cares that we give up a third. A third rounder is what got us Chaz Green. Spend the damn money.

Dallas offered Seattle their third round pick in the 2018 draft for Earl Thomas. Seattle declined it.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Honestly, I wonder if the plan here isn't actually to win a SB but rather just stay competitive year in and year out. That keeps the money flowing in at a fairly consistent level.

If they happen to get lucky and make a run, so be it. But I wonder if they just want to make sure they can consistently spit out 8-9 wins and minimize the downside instead of trying to win in a certain window.

I don't think there's much wondering about it. That's absolutely what is happening.

 

[Fontaine]

They want a 2nd

Which is to much, I agree with Jerry on this one. I don’t ever know if I’d give up a 3rd to be honest.

 

[OmerV]

Conventional wisdom in the NFL says the absolute best time to compete and win titles is with a good QB on a rookie contract. We have that. This year and next. This is the time to strike. Yet Jerry and son are content to with the status quo. Content to roll out scrubs at safety instead of spending the $. The money saved on Dez’s contract pays for Earl. Earl makes this defense a top 5 unit. Who cares that we give up a third. A third rounder is what got us Chaz Green. Spend the damn money.

Have you looked at the QBs that have won the last 10 Super Bowls? I think Russell Wilson may have still been on his rookie contract, but otherwise it was Foles, Brady, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Flacco, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlesberger .... all either slightly beyond their rookie contract, or many years past it.

 

[NotForLong]

With all out talent on D. Not likely but it may be able to cover up some offensive woes. It use to be offense covers D. Now defense covers O. Keep the scores down and create turnovers.

A great D will always compensate for a weak O. But this is Offensive is not weak. Thomas adds 2 -3 Wins to this team. That's taking into consideration the walking M.A.S.H unit which weren't any where near the talent of Earl when they were healthy

It's the last man in defense. Theres a reason it's called the " Saftey" position.

Why have all those War Daddys hustling and fighting. Only to give up a big play because all we got is garbage back there.

You're are not promised anything in this league. You go for the throat now. We may lose D- Law next year. What are we waiting for.

10 yrs ago. Jerry is all over this. Now when players are going down. Hes stalling. One extreame to other.

Ridiculous. This guy could have been in camp already. Stop BSing Jerah

 

[John813]

Have you looked at the QBs that have won the last 10 Super Bowls? I think Russell Wilson may have still been on his rookie contract, but otherwise it was Foles, Brady, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Flacco, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlesberger .... all either slightly beyond their rookie contract, or many years past it.

Big Ben won on his rookie contract, and I believe his second superbowl win was on his final year of his rookie year but was rewarded with a contract extension that took effect that year. IIRC
Maybe that Pitt fan in here can correct me.

But yea, outside of that, it's guys on contracts 2-3-4+

 

[Batman1980]

Conventional wisdom in the NFL says the absolute best time to compete and win titles is with a good QB on a rookie contract. We have that. This year and next. This is the time to strike. Yet Jerry and son are content to with the status quo. Content to roll out scrubs at safety instead of spending the $. The money saved on Dez’s contract pays for Earl. Earl makes this defense a top 5 unit. Who cares that we give up a third. A third rounder is what got us Chaz Green. Spend the damn money.

They probably feel the sting of the Ken Hamlin contract, plus they still need cash to pay Prescott, Elliott and Tank.

 

[Future]

No, looking back at the past 20 Super Bowl winners, it is a very small percentage that won with QBs on rookie contracts.

There's really no value in going back to 1998, because the game was so different.

4 of the last 6 SBs have had a QB on a rookie contract. 2 of them won. Tom Brady's cap hit was, I think, under $15m because of restructures and bonuses. Peyton took a pay cut to under $15m the year Denver won. That's a lot more telling for where the game is today.

Edit: FWIW, I don't think you need to have a QB on a cheap contract to win or that correlation really means causation. But there is absolutely no doubt about the fact that SEA, PHI, SF and to a lesser extent Denver were all able to spend big elsewhere - particularly on defense - because they didn't have to pay a QB $20m+.

 

[MCMetal69]

Have to cut off some question marks though. So you are fine just going Forward and hope for next season without trying anything?

That wasn't my point at all................I am not for standing pat ; but to simply assume we're Super Bowl bound with the addition of Earl Thomas is not very realistic.....................

 

[NotForLong]

One player isn’t going to get us a SB.. would he be a upgrade? Yes.

Maybe maybe not. But you cant claim that Earl would not bring a Super Bowl. So what's your point.

If I had to pick one player that did bring a Super Bowl I would say Mr. Charles Haley. That's a fact. You bring in an amazing talent whenever the opportunity arises. And it just so happens to be at a position of need a position of extreame weakness. We can in one move go from the bottom to the top of the league rankings. Added to what looks to be an elite pass rush and elite Lb Corp combined with 2 young studs at the CB.

This is madness. He should be on the team already.

 

[OmerV]

Big Ben won on his rookie contract, and I believe his second superbowl win was on his final year of his rookie year but was rewarded with a contract extension that took effect that year. IIRC
Maybe that Pitt fan in here can correct me.

But yea, outside of that, it's guys on contracts 2-3-4+

Yes, Ben's first Super Bowl was on his rookie contract, but that wasn't within the last 10 years I mentioned. I believe the second was after the rookie contract expired (rookie contracts are 4 years, right?). In any case, as you noted, the bulk of the winners have not been in their rookie contracts.

 

[OmerV]

Dallas offered Seattle their third round pick in the 2018 draft for Earl Thomas. Seattle declined it.

Not only this, ET wouldn't be on a cheap rookie contract, so the comparison to using a 3rd on Chaz Green is not apples to apples.

 

[Old'Boyfan]

Thanks for this. I completely agree. The culture is the biggest issue there. The video of the team walking into the locker room after Sunday's game was so telling. I know it is preseason but they just got embarrassed at home by the Cardinals. Those guys are yucking it up in the hall. Amazing. Everyone from the "GM" to the coach to the players are too comfortable. They don't have that edge that is needed to be special in the NFL. I have been blown away by how bad they have looked in the preseason. Defense has been pretty good but offensively they have looked terrible. Very similar to the look last season. Linehan has them 3 wide and runs it to the weak side for a yard way too often. The guy is a terrible OC. The decision to not put any edge on and challenge these guys is going to look really bad if they get stomped in Carolina. Sadly, the torch will be passed from Jerry to Stephen so I don't see an end to this carnival.

^^^This^^^
This shouldn't happen and wouldn't happen if we had the right FO & coach. If the players are so comfortable in such an embarrassment of a game, even if it's preseason, there is something radically wrong.