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peplaw06;3304338 said:
The Ravens think Oher can do that based on five games. And Free faced a stud DE his one game at LT.

Free, although the swing tackle, was probably more prepared to take over from Columbo having played there earlier in the season. Considering everything he did ok.
 

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My worry with Free is he will never have the strength needed to be a difference maker but will still be able to do more than enough to get you by.

Also he is a high motor guy so say if he is injured and can't play with a lot of energy how does it effect his game vs someone like Gaither who was born to do this?

I like Doug Free a lot but not enough to let a season ride on him.

I also still like Flo and think he can outplay Free but dumping his contract is whats best for the team long term.
 

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CATCH17;3304366 said:
My worry with Free is he will never have the strength needed to be a difference maker but will still be able to do more than enough to get you by.

Also he is a high motor guy so say if he is injured and can't play with a lot of energy how does it effect his game vs someone like Gaither who was born to do this?

I like Doug Free a lot but not enough to let a season ride on him.

I also still like Flo and think he can outplay Free but dumping his contract is whats best for the team long term.

I think people are leery with Free because he came out with buzz saying he had prototypical LT feet and just needed to add strength, and then he took several years to crack into the starting lineup. I also think he's one of the players Steven Jones is talking about when he says there are young guys on our roster capable of playing who just haven't gotten their shots yet. I have no worries about the guy playing either OT position for us, and I'd much rather trust our draft and development process before we go eating something off of somebody else's plate.
 

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The reason teams seldom make offers to guys who have been tendered is not all about the draft pick they'd give up. It's a lot of time and effort wasted when you decide you're willing to give up the pick, negotiate a contract, make an offer, and then the home team simply matches your offer and keeps the player while you lost time on other guys.
 

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burmafrd;3304260 said:
If Gaither would want huge money then no. BUT if we can get him reasonably then lets do it.

Fuzzy, you basically think Free can do it based on ONE game. Now that is not smart.

Otherwise FRee played RT and Gaither LT and Gaither faced much better pass rushers. So using that to say Free is better is uninformed at best.

Are you daft? I am basing it on 8 games or almost 500 snaps.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;3304847 said:
Are you daft? I am basing it on 8 games or almost 500 snaps.

Damn Fuzzy...you've been getting after it in this thread...


...but it almost made it to page 2 :lmao:
 

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CATCH17;3304366 said:
My worry with Free is he will never have the strength needed to be a difference maker but will still be able to do more than enough to get you by.

Also he is a high motor guy so say if he is injured and can't play with a lot of energy how does it effect his game vs someone like Gaither who was born to do this?

I like Doug Free a lot but not enough to let a season ride on him.

I also still like Flo and think he can outplay Free but dumping his contract is whats best for the team long term.

And then you see him pancake block dlinemen into the turf in live games. Free's core has always been insanely strong. He can jump 30" straight up and 9' out. His problem was his upper body and that is no longer an issue.

You NEVER heard of Free getting manhandled and on the right side the players are typically bigger. On the left side he will outweigh guys by 35+ lbs.

And you've never even seen Gaither play and you're willing to let a season ride on him. And then there is Flo too.
 

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This thread sucks. Sign him, dont sign him- you guys have made me not care. Either way we good.
 

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Ravens' Gaither might be trade bait

Mon 08 Mar 2010
By Jamison Hensley | jamison.hensley@baltsun.com

The Ravens could increase their depth through free agency over the next few weeks, whether it's picking up a cornerback, defensive end or tight end.

If the Ravens' scouts had their way, the team would acquire something even more valuable: additional draft picks. The Ravens have five selections in next month's NFL draft after Friday's trade for wide receiver Anquan Boldin.

The Ravens' best shot at gaining a pick in the first or second round would be to deal starting offensive tackle Jared Gaither, the team's most attractive trade bait.

No team official has said the Ravens would give up Gaither for a high pick, but the team seemed to signal it would listen to offers by giving Gaither a first-round tender as a restricted free agent instead of the high one (which would require teams to give up picks in the first and third rounds). The Denver Broncos chose the same tender for disgruntled wide receiver Brandon Marshall, who is shopping himself around now.

So, would the Ravens keep Gaither if offered a first- or second-round pick? It's a decision they might soon have to face.

Teams could be willing to give up a pick in the first or second round for Gaither because he's young (he'll turn 24 next week), experienced (already a two-year starter) and unique (a 6-foot-9, 340-pound lineman with skills). The Ravens, who could keep Gaither by matching any offer, might be willing to let him go because of his less-than-desirable work ethic and durability issues (he missed five games last season).

Four teams who could show interest are the San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, Dallas Cowboys and Indianapolis Colts.

The 49ers and Seahawks need help at offensive tackle and could be inclined to go after Gaither because they have multiple picks in the first round. The Colts and Cowboys could be intrigued because they are limited in free agency by the "Final Eight" rule.

If the Ravens would trade Gaither, they would move 2009 first-round pick Michael Oher to left tackle, where he made five starts last season. The team then would have to fill the void left by Oher at right tackle.

Attempts to reach Gaither's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, were unsuccessful Sunday.

The Ravens need more picks because they gave up theirs in the third and fourth rounds for Boldin and a fifth-rounder. Besides, the team had already dealt this year's seventh-round pick in a 2008 trade for defensive end Marques Douglas.

At this point, that leaves the Ravens with two selections in the first 152 picks of a very deep draft (it could be more or fewer after compensatory picks are given out). The Ravens could always gain more picks by trading back in the draft.

Trading has become another option this season.

With fewer unrestricted free agents because of the uncapped year, teams seem more interested in trading to improve themselves than they had been in the past.

Besides Gaither, the lower-than-expected tenders to two restricted free agents (quarterback Troy Smith and wide receiver Mark Clayton) seem to indicate that the Ravens are willing to field offers. Smith, whose agent had requested a trade toward the end of the regular season, was given a low tender, which means he could be available for a fifth-round pick. Clayton, who received a second-round tender, could be expendable if the Ravens re-sign Derrick Mason to go along with newcomers, Boldin and Donte' Stallworth.

The team would probably be open to talk about running back Willis McGahee, but it makes more sense to hold on to him now at least through the draft.

Note: The Ravens should receive at least one additional pick through the NFL's compensatory system.

It's a complicated league formula based on the number of unrestricted free agents lost from the previous offseason ( Bart Scott, Jason Brown, Jim Leonhard, Kyle Boller) compared with the ones added (Domonique Foxworth, Matt Birk and Chris Carr).

Compensatory picks, which are added to the bottom of the round, will be announced at the NFL owners meetings in two weeks.
 

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thor_01;3301623 said:
Using our 2011 picks, as noone knows how that is gonna go anyway, and go get Gaither and Bethea, then taking our #2 this year and Bennett and making a swap for Marshall, then sit back if they want to and draft whatever they think there is a hole for, somehow that makes more sense to me than sitting on ones thumb and rotating to see if any thing is left when it all unfolds..........

I would be scared to make those moves.
 

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Funny how Fuzzy thinks snaps at RT PROVE a player can do LT just as well.
 
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