The Jared Gaither Thread **Merged**

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LT is a MUST-HAVE position for any team. So if Gaither is allowed to walk, you really have to wonder why his curent team is not doing everything it can to keep him. To me that would be a huge red-flag. If he's worth keeping, he's not going anywhere (like Miles Austin is not going anywhere but back to Dallas).

Personally, I'd rahter find our LT in the draft. Just TRUST the scouts. You can argue that Larry Allen was the best OL in NFL history (or right up there) and he was a second round pick. Finding these studs in the draft is doable, and with the mumber of Juniors reporting elegible this year, there are great players at every position, not just LT, to be had in the draft.

So I'll pass an any free agent that seemingly (with no guarantee) projects to be a long term starter in Dallas. I'd rahter take my chances in the deraft.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;3300479 said:
So if Gaither is allowed to walk, you really have to wonder why his curent team is not doing everything it can to keep him.

If you have to wonder, you haven't done your research.
 

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I watch the Ravens every week up here in BMore. He did a surprisingly good job coming in to replace a legend-Ogden. Gaither is a good player-right now better than Flozell and has the potential to get even bigger and better with experience. He has been in and out with injuries (I think to his leg(s) and/or ankle). I was initially shocked they did only the first round tender given his age.

This is CLEARLY a choice between him and Oher at left tackle. The Ravens view this as a win/win as he was a supplemental draft pick and they will get at least a 2nd rounder for him and won't have to pay for two left tackles.

Barring injury, which no one can predict, I think a first rounder would be a good trade for both teams. Even better for Dallas if they can get Gaither for a second. Adding Marty B would be too much. Marty B would be perfect for the Ravens running game and they need a second TE really bad. Marty B & 3rd sounds more like it.
 

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Manster54;3300505 said:
I watch the Ravens every week up here in BMore. He did a surprisingly good job coming in to replace a legend-Ogden. Gaither is a good player-right now better than Flozell and has the potential to get even bigger and better with experience. He has been in and out with injuries (I think to his leg(s) and/or ankle). I was initially shocked they did only the first round tender given his age.

This is CLEARLY a choice between him and Oher at left tackle. The Ravens view this as a win/win as he was a supplemental draft pick and they will get at least a 2nd rounder for him and won't have to pay for two left tackles.

Barring injury, which no one can predict, I think a first rounder would be a good trade for both teams. Even better for Dallas if they can get Gaither for a second. Adding Marty B would be too much. Marty B would be perfect for the Ravens running game and they need a second TE really bad. Marty B & 3rd sounds more like it.

Thanks for the input.

I would do Marty B and a 3rd in a heartbeat.
 

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cowboyjoe;3300449 said:
Ok as you know reports are that the cowboys have shown interest in Gaither big OT from the Ravens. If Cowboys can work out a trade for him say a number 1 pick or number 2 pick, would Flozell Adams bring any value in a trade.

If you remember parcells liked Flozell when he was with the Cowboys. I am thinking maybe a 3rd or 4th rounder for flozell . What do you think?

I think you're mistaking speculating for facts.

I saw a report that speculated that the Cowboys could have interest but nowhere have I seen that the team actually is interested.
 

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The more I read and watch, the more I want this guy. I downloaded a couple games and liked what I saw. I read Baltimore Sun articles from throughout the season and they had good things to say about Gaither, especially when they missed him on the field.

Here's an article about Oher; it's apparent that everyone wants Oher on the blind side with Gaither moving to RT, except perhaps Oher who feels Gaither is the better player. I wouldn't imagine that Gaither would want to be paid like a RT either when he could get LT money.

And here's an article explaining that the Ravens need draft picks because they have traded away several and that Oher had moved over to LT last year when Gaither was injured so his transition shouldn't be difficult if they move him.

I am officially off the fence and would love to bring in Gaither. He does appear to have a problem with work ethic and did miss time last year due to injury but didn't miss any time in 2008 so I don't think it's a trend.
 

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dallasfaniac;3300483 said:
If you have to wonder, you haven't done your research.

The bottom line is that you have a deep draft at every position this year, OL ncluded. Trust your scouts, their draft board, and draft your future at LT, rahter than rely on the best you can get out of a limited class of free agents/avaialble veternas.
 

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casmith07;3300456 said:
The Cowboys aren't signing Gaither. And if they do, I'll wear a Commanders jersey for a day.

I'm busy scouring twitter for a "Gaither to Cowboys" post. :)
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;3300479 said:
LT is a MUST-HAVE position for any team. So if Gaither is allowed to walk, you really have to wonder why his curent team is not doing everything it can to keep him. To me that would be a huge red-flag. If he's worth keeping, he's not going anywhere (like Miles Austin is not going anywhere but back to Dallas).

Personally, I'd rahter find our LT in the draft. Just TRUST the scouts. You can argue that Larry Allen was the best OL in NFL history (or right up there) and he was a second round pick. Finding these studs in the draft is doable, and with the mumber of Juniors reporting elegible this year, there are great players at every position, not just LT, to be had in the draft.

So I'll pass an any free agent that seemingly (with no guarantee) projects to be a long term starter in Dallas. I'd rahter take my chances in the deraft.

Because they just drafted a LT in Michael Oher.

They are in a win-win situation.

If someone comes after they can match and resign. If he leaves they move Oher to LT and go get a RT. Plus they get a 1st round pick.
 

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cowboyjoe;3300449 said:
Ok as you know reports are that the cowboys have shown interest in Gaither big OT from the Ravens.
Exactly where are these reports? I haven't read them.

Oh, and Flo's trade value? No where near a 3rd or 4th.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;3300521 said:
The bottom line is that you have a deep draft at every position this year, OL ncluded. Trust your scouts, their draft board, and draft your future at LT, rahter than rely on the best you can get out of a limited class of free agents/avaialble veternas.

Gaither is 23 years old and according to ProFootballFocus was 11th best OT in 2008 and 6th best OT in 2009 (even while playing through an ankle injury). He's given up 6 sacks and 24 pressures over the last 2 years while Flozell gave up 15 sacks and 63 pressures. He is a proven top 10 LT in the NFL and is practically the same age as most of the players coming out of the draft. Can you trust that the scouts can find better considering their record of drafting offensive linemen?
 

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One other item to consider is that if the Cowboys are showing interest, it might be so that another team reacts and possibly takes him, say someone like Pittsburgh or Seattle which then would have one of the top tackles far in the draft.

Remember things are always not as they seem.
 

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Sandyf;3300554 said:
One other item to consider is that if the Cowboys are showing interest, it might be so that another team reacts and possibly takes him, say someone like Pittsburgh or Seattle which then would have one of the top tackles far in the draft.

Remember things are always not as they seem.

I'm assuming you mean fall instead of far.

It's also possible that the Ravens would then have 2 selections prior to the Cowboys to take an OT at a salary much less than they would have to pay Gaither if they kept him.
 

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I wish there was a way to pull Ryan Clady haha.

I think hes the best LT in the league.
 

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Manster54;3300505 said:
I watch the Ravens every week up here in BMore. He did a surprisingly good job coming in to replace a legend-Ogden. Gaither is a good player-right now better than Flozell and has the potential to get even bigger and better with experience. He has been in and out with injuries (I think to his leg(s) and/or ankle). I was initially shocked they did only the first round tender given his age.

This is CLEARLY a choice between him and Oher at left tackle. The Ravens view this as a win/win as he was a supplemental draft pick and they will get at least a 2nd rounder for him and won't have to pay for two left tackles.

Barring injury, which no one can predict, I think a first rounder would be a good trade for both teams. Even better for Dallas if they can get Gaither for a second. Adding Marty B would be too much. Marty B would be perfect for the Ravens running game and they need a second TE really bad. Marty B & 3rd sounds more like it.

When I watch Ravens games he actually stood out to me and on very rare occasions does a linemen just pop out like that.

Anything that is considered any type of weakness with this guy just deals with immaturity or inexperience.

You get Gaither than your more than set at Left Tackle.

How lucky is Baltimore to of replaced Ogden like that?
 

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I have yet to find anything other than reporter speculation of Dallas might be a team that would be interested or might fit for Gaither.

In other words there seems to be no indication at all that Dallas is interested in him at this point.

Now I know some don't care about that and are only talking about if they would trade for him and if so what they would give up. I just wanted to clarify that there has been no indication that the cowboys are actually interested in him.
 
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