The Jared Gaither Thread **Merged**

[CATCH17]

I would rather Dallas draft Flo's replacement

Me too but barring a miracle it wont happen so you take the 23 year old (Gaither) with experience and can play at a high level.


The beauty of this is you get much younger at that position and you get to drop one of your worst contracts. (Flo)

Whether its being reported or not Cowboys officials are definetely considering this and if they aren't then they aren't doing their job.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Gaither is 23 years old and according to ProFootballFocus was 11th best OT in 2008 and 6th best OT in 2009 (even while playing through an ankle injury). He's given up 6 sacks and 24 pressures over the last 2 years while Flozell gave up 15 sacks and 63 pressures. He is a proven top 10 LT in the NFL and is practically the same age as most of the players coming out of the draft. Can you trust that the scouts can find better considering their record of drafting offensive linemen?

Yes, I can trust the scouts becuase they're capable, and not the ones making the final draft selections. In fact many of the bust-OLinemen that Dallas (i.e. Parcells) took were drafted despite what the scouts recommended alternatively. And I'll surely trust the scouts before any so called expert or insider on this board - that's for sure. But hey, thanks for asking!

 

[dallasfaniac]

So you trust that they can find an OT better than the 6th best OT in the NFL according to ProFootballFocus? What has brought you to this conclusion? Doug Free?

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Because they just drafted a LT in Michael Oher.

They are in a win-win situation.

If someone comes after they can match and resign. If he leaves they move Oher to LT and go get a RT. Plus they get a 1st round pick.

DC, scenarios don't play football games; players do. At some point they have to decide who they want to play at LT. If the scenario of losing their LT and replacing him with Oher is acceptable, then it's because they view him as no better in terms of impacting the bottom line of winning.

So in that case, why can't Dallas just go draft an OT of their own, or keep the pick and draft another position if it proves to land a beter player at another position? At least that way Dallas can maximize its ability to impact its bottom line.

In the end, Dallas is not in such a desperate need for a LT to justify talk about giving up a high draft pick to land a free agernt. So forgive me if I fail to see the relvnace of this thread.

 

[CATCH17]

DC, scenarios don't play football games; players do. At some point they have to decide who they want to play at LT. If the scenario of losing their LT and replacing him with Oher is acceptable, then it's because they view him as no better. So in that case, why can't Dallas just go draft an OT of their own, or keep the pick and draft another position if it proves to land a beter player at another position? Dallas is not is such a desperate need for a LT to be talking about giving up a high draft pick to land a free agernt. So forgive me if I fail to see the relvnace of this thread.

Yeah we pretty much are.

And the fact that the year is uncapped and we can dump a bad contract like Flo's just makes it more of a no brainer.


This is a position we should not play around with. Its dang near as important as QB and even the QB's health depends on it.


The only way @ 27 that we could touch a guy of this caliber is if we draft Bruce Campbell and he develops into a good player but thats a BIIIIG if.

We may have to also start looking at the option of having Martellus put on the weight and moving him to Left Tackle.

It is crucial that we get a legit prospect at that position within the next 2 years.

 

[dcfanatic]

We may have to also start looking at the option of having Martellus put on the weight and moving him to Left Tackle.

LOL.

He just came out last night and talked about the offense needing to do some thing differently to accommodate him and get him more involved so he can fulfill his potential.

You think he's up for this idea that he add some weight to play Tackle?

 

[dallasfaniac]

LOL.

He just came out last night and talked about the offense needing to do some thing differently to accomodate him and get him more involved so he can fulfill his potential.

You think he's up for this idea that he add some weight to play Tackle?

Can he fulfill his potential by carrying a 2nd rounder with him to Baltimore so Cam Cameron gets his Gates-like TE and we get bookend tackles for years?

Edit: Going to lunch, fully expect news confirming Cowboy's interest when I get back :

 

[dcfanatic]

DC, scenarios don't play football games; players do. At some point they have to decide who they want to play at LT. If the scenario of losing their LT and replacing him with Oher is acceptable, then it's because they view him as no better in terms of impacting the bottom line of winning.

So in that case, why can't Dallas just go draft an OT of their own, or keep the pick and draft another position if it proves to land a beter player at another position? At least that way Dallas can maximize its ability to impact its bottom line.

In the end, Dallas is not in such a desperate need for a LT to justify talk about giving up a high draft pick to land a free agernt. So forgive me if I fail to see the relvnace of this thread.

I agree both teams have a lot of moving parts here.

Just depends on whether the Cowboys think Gaither is just as good already as the possible Tackle they would find in round one.

The Ravens have to decide on Oher being their future Left Tackle just as the Cowboys have to decide if Free is the future Left Tackle. The only difference is the Ravens could add a 1st round pick if the Cowboys help them make their decision.

Flo doesn't have any trade value. Any team that wants him would want to take him on with their own structured contract. It would not be more than a two year deal which is really just a year to year thing with a guy like him.

 

[gmoney112]

After researching, I want Gaither. I also want to keep our first round pick. I read an article that Balt would be willing to part with him for less than a 1st rounder, but it'd probably have to be a decent package deal. If we could manage to drop a 2nd + MartyB or somethin similar, I think you take that deal all day. Gaither/Iupati in the first would just be nasty, and then later we could make a move for Atogwe. We'd still have 3, 4, 6, 7 round picks to draft some developmental players, which is just fine imo.

 

[Ren]

No, no one would be willing to part with anything when it means picking up his contract

 

[NeonDeion21]

I agree both teams have a lot of moving parts here.

Just depends on whether the Cowboys think Gaither is just as good already as the possible Tackle they would find in round one.

The Ravens have to decide on Oher being their future Left Tackle just as the Cowboys have to decide if Free is the future Left Tackle. The only difference is the Ravens could add a 1st round pick if the Cowboys help them make their decision.

Flo doesn't have any trade value. Any team that wants him would want to take him on with their own structured contract. It would not be more than a two year deal which is really just a year to year thing with a guy like him.

The Ravens also have another young tackle in Oniel Cousins who they really seem to like. He started 4 games at the end of the season as a RT and other than one bad game against Pitt, he played fairly well. As you mentioned before DC, they are in a win-win situation and they are in desperate need to add play-makers to their offense and get younger on their aging defense.

 

[Stash]

The Ravens also have another young tackle in Oniel Cousins who they really seem to like. He started 4 games at the end of the season as a RT and other than one bad game against Pitt, he played fairly well. As you mentioned before DC, they are in a win-win situation and they are in desperate need to add play-makers to their offense and get younger on their aging defense.

The most frustrating part?

The Cowboys could have had either Gaither (in the supplemental draft) or Oher (had they not made the Roy Williams trade).

I really like the thought of Marty B and a 2nd rounder for Gaither but that depends on what the league thinks of Dallas' #2 TE.

 

[Texan_Eph89]

Gaither is 23 years old and according to ProFootballFocus was 11th best OT in 2008 and 6th best OT in 2009 (even while playing through an ankle injury). He's given up 6 sacks and 24 pressures over the last 2 years while Flozell gave up 15 sacks and 63 pressures. He is a proven top 10 LT in the NFL and is practically the same age as most of the players coming out of the draft. Can you trust that the scouts can find better considering their record of drafting offensive linemen?

I feel you completely.
People don't realize that there's no red flag, it's a contract casualty/they have another LT there.

 

[EPL0c0]

IF... no. keep him for DEPTH. quality depth is a GOOD thing

 

[JustDezIt]

With pictures?

I have a Sean Tyalor jersey that you could borrow.

when he passed away a buddy who is a skins fan bought it for me and i wore it once out of respect for him.

hahha i always wondered if i was one of the only ones around here who owns a piece of thier parapherneila

 

[Texan_Eph89]

DC, scenarios don't play football games; players do. At some point they have to decide who they want to play at LT. If the scenario of losing their LT and replacing him with Oher is acceptable, then it's because they view him as no better in terms of impacting the bottom line of winning.

So in that case, why can't Dallas just go draft an OT of their own, or keep the pick and draft another position if it proves to land a beter player at another position? At least that way Dallas can maximize its ability to impact its bottom line.

In the end, Dallas is not in such a desperate need for a LT to justify talk about giving up a high draft pick to land a free agernt. So forgive me if I fail to see the relvnace of this thread.

The 27th pick is going towards "drafting" Gaither....
Well, essentially.
What other LT are we taking in the bottom of the 1st that is top 10 NFL this year?
Gaither would come start from day 1 and anchor that side of the line for years to come. He's 23.

 

[jobberone]

I agree with some that obtaining Gaither would be better than drafting an OT. And it's very likely one OT or Iupati will be there at 27.

There is the contract to worry about with Gaither. I think the FO is a little nervous about what's in store cap wise and even if there will be a season to play ball next year. So I think they are being very cautious about long term contracts especially one sure to have a lot of guaranteed money in it.

The FO has to sell the player to play here and hope the contract is not too big but big enough to get past Baltimore.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

I have yet to find anything other than reporter speculation of Dallas might be a team that would be interested or might fit for Gaither.

In other words there seems to be no indication at all that Dallas is interested in him at this point.

Now I know some don't care about that and are only talking about if they would trade for him and if so what they would give up. I just wanted to clarify that there has been no indication that the cowboys are actually interested in him.

buzzkill!

 

[NeonNinja]

I have yet to find anything other than reporter speculation of Dallas might be a team that would be interested or might fit for Gaither.

In other words there seems to be no indication at all that Dallas is interested in him at this point.

Now I know some don't care about that and are only talking about if they would trade for him and if so what they would give up. I just wanted to clarify that there has been no indication that the cowboys are actually interested in him.

Let us keep our hope up man!

 

[Manster54]

When I watch Ravens games he actually stood out to me and on very rare occasions does a linemen just pop out like that.

Anything that is considered any type of weakness with this guy just deals with immaturity or inexperience.

You get Gaither than your more than set at Left Tackle.

How lucky is Baltimore to of replaced Ogden like that?

I agree. Baltimore has a very nice track record in drafting OL, which has been a Dallas weakness. They did not expect him to step in that early for Ogden-he was drafted as a project and exceeded their expectations. THEN, Oher came in and is just the man.

To me, OHER is the one that stands out on Baltimore's line. Dude reminds me of Larry Allen in his prime. VERY powerful but good feet. And NASTY. What a luxury to draft Oher making Gaither expendable? Just sick.