The Jared Gaither Thread **Merged**

[Manster54]

The Ravens also have another young tackle in Oniel Cousins who they really seem to like. He started 4 games at the end of the season as a RT and other than one bad game against Pitt, he played fairly well. As you mentioned before DC, they are in a win-win situation and they are in desperate need to add play-makers to their offense and get younger on their aging defense.

I would be shocked if Cousins ends up the Ravens right tackle. He had a VERY hard time with speed guys and just overall blitz recognition. And yes, dude looked like a MATADOR against the Stealers.

To the actual point of this thread, I cannot imagine anyone would trade for FLO. They would just wait for him to be released. It would be a heck of a luxury for Dallas to add Gaither and keep Flo, but if it would happen, an uncapped year would be the year to do it.

 

[grogan6314]

Sign Atogwe at safety. Cut Hamlin. Trade a 2nd and Bennett for Gaither. Pick Iupati with the 27th pick. And cut Flozell. I also wouldn't mind signing a veteral kicker like Hansen from Detroit.

 

[jrumann59]

why is everyone so enamored with Gaither, the ravens want anyone to take him as a left because otherwise he is going to be moved to the right side here in baltimore. Now if you are saying yeah get gaither to be Columbos competition OK but the ravens just want a cohesive locker room when they bench him favor of Oher.

 

[DBOY3141]

because Gaither is 24 has started at LT for the Ravens for the last two years and in that time has been twice as good as Flozell.

We will not get a LT at #27 as good as Gaither. Lupiti(sp) will not be an NFL LT.

Free has not proven he can play LT. Gaither has.

Wishlist
#27 - Draft Pounchy
Trade 2nd for Gaither

O-line in 2011:

LT - Gaither
LG - Brewster
C- Pouncy
RG - Davis
RT - Free

all starters are under 27 except Davis and we can pick a guard in the 2011 draft to replace him in 2012.

 

[jrumann59]

But very average that is why everyon wants him out as the left tackle. Bringing him in as LT is probably as effective as putting Bigg out there. He might do OK but he is going to get your QB killed.

 

[eightysiX]

someone was saying earlier he has only given up something like 7 sacks in the past 2 years, thats hardly getting the qb killed.

 

[catch28]

because Gaither is 24 has started at LT for the Ravens for the last two years and in that time has been twice as good as Flozell.

We will not get a LT at #27 as good as Gaither. Lupiti(sp) will not be an NFL LT.

Free has not proven he can play LT. Gaither has.

Wishlist
#27 - Draft Pounchy
Trade 2nd for Gaither

O-line in 2011:

LT - Gaither
LG - Brewster
C- Pouncy
RG - Davis
RT - Free

all starters are under 27 except Davis and we can pick a guard in the 2011 draft to replace him in 2012.

So basically you want a totally different line in 2011? You do realize OL HAS to have some continuity(sp). Our center hs as least 3 good years left and Columbo still has a lot of miles on him because of injuries early in career. Adams and Kosier r in there last year in Dallas but the other 3 starters can still play!

 

[catch28]

This really needs to stop. Flozell is going to be the LT next year period! Jerry and Wade will draft a LT in the first 3rds! They liked what they saw out of Free and Flo had a better season than most Lt in the league. I understand that Gaither is a good young LT but Jerry is not going to play it that way this offseason.

 

[BAT]

Bennett and a 3rd is very tempting. But why not use that 3rd and take a similar physical specimen like Jared Veldheer. Except Veldheer has a ton more in terms of intangibles and may be an even better athlete.

AND the Cowboys would be able to keep Bennett too.

 

[Cover 2]

Bennett and a 3rd is very tempting. But why not use that 3rd and take a similar physical specimen like Jared Veldheer. Except Veldheer has a ton more in terms of intangibles and may be an even better athlete.

AND the Cowboys would be able to keep Bennett too.

I'd honestly feel lucky if Veldheer fell to our 2nd round pick. I bet most teams have him rated higher than the draftnicks. If we got him in the 2nd and ET in the 1st though, I would feel a euphoria that nothing else could match (I'm keeping this PG so I won't mention what).

 

[k19]

I'm on the fence on this one to be honest. I have 3 or 4 different thoughts. 1) If we had 2 firsts Id definitely say go after him.
2) If he's a better player than what we'd get from the draft then yes. After all he's young, he's not too much older than whats available in the draft and has experience.
3) theyre saying its the deepest draft in years at most every position and a rookies alot cheaper
4) we already have players who deserve new deals and signing him would take away from that. IF they ever solve the labor issues the cap will more than likely be back and I'd hate to see us try and fit under it.

If you look at the teams that have taken fliers on RFA's its usually teams that have multiple pics in the round thge RFA is tendered. Look at Seattle and Marshall. If they only tendered him at a first it sounds like theyre more than willing to let him walk

 

[CowboyMike]

While I'd love to have him, I think Jerry has made it pretty clear that he wants to draft some lineman rather than fill our needs through free agency. He kicked himself for having to sign Bigg Davis and kicked himself again for having to re-sign Flozell. He would have preferred to have had someone waiting in the wings instead, so I think he's going to stick to that.

 

[burmafrd]

Personally I would look at it this way: can Gaither be as good as the Hotel was at his best? If so grab him. If not pass.

 

[thor_01]

Using our 2011 picks, as noone knows how that is gonna go anyway, and go get Gaither and Bethea, then taking our #2 this year and Bennett and making a swap for Marshall, then sit back if they want to and draft whatever they think there is a hole for, somehow that makes more sense to me than sitting on ones thumb and rotating to see if any thing is left when it all unfolds..........

 

[CATCH17]

I just hope we dont draft an Olinemen in the 1st round and pass on Gaither.

If you're keeping the pick than it needs to be for another position because you aren't going to get a linemen that touches Gaither at that spot.

 

[LandryFan]

Using our 2011 picks, as noone knows how that is gonna go anyway, and go get Gaither and Bethea, then taking our #2 this year and Bennett and making a swap for Marshall, then sit back if they want to and draft whatever they think there is a hole for, somehow that makes more sense to me than sitting on ones thumb and rotating to see if any thing is left when it all unfolds..........

No way Dallas gets both Gaither and Bethea while using a 2nd for Marshall. Gaither and Bethea both have first round tenders, and Dallas only has one first round pick. It is possible (not likely, but possible) that Dallas could negotiate one of the first rounders down to a second, but then that throws your Marshall deal out the window. Personally, I wouldn't want Marshall on the team at any price. However, I am a proponent of using a low first rounder for a young proven commodity.

 

[Alexander]

I just hope we dont draft an Olinemen in the 1st round and pass on Gaither.

If you're keeping the pick than it needs to be for another position because you aren't going to get a linemen that touches Gaither at that spot.

I think we are overvalueing Gaither quite a bit, especially as a left tackle. The Ravens thought so much of him they went ahead and took Oher last year and it was not to play right tackle. It was to prepare for this right now. If they keep Gaither at right tackle money, he stays. But with the tender they placed on him (like we did with Spears), they would not be devastated if he were to leave. They have options. If they did not, they would not have taken the risk.

They have no intention of leaving him at left tackle as they have a better player. I am not convinced he is hands down better than some we will have to choose from at pick 27--should we actually want a tackle that high.

 

[CATCH17]

No way Dallas gets both Gaither and Bethea while using a 2nd for Marshall. Gaither and Bethea both have first round tenders, and Dallas only has one first round pick. It is possible (not likely, but possible) that Dallas could negotiate one of the first rounders down to a second, but then that throws your Marshall deal out the window. Personally, I wouldn't want Marshall on the team at any price. However, I am a proponent of using a low first rounder for a young proven commodity.

I agree and if you wanted a receiver than you should've gone after Boldin and dumped Roys contract.

Marshall is to much of a TO Wannabe.

 

[CATCH17]

I think we are overvalueing Gaither quite a bit, especially as a left tackle. The Ravens thought so much of him they went ahead and took Oher last year and it was not to play right tackle. It was to prepare for this right now. If they keep Gaither at right tackle money, he stays. But with the tender they placed on him (like we did with Spears), they would not be devastated if he were to leave. They have options. If they did not, they would not have taken the risk.

They have no intention of leaving him at left tackle as they have a better player. I am not convinced he is hands down better than some we will have to choose from at pick 27--should we actually want a tackle that high.

If Gaither had a movie than he would be staying and Oher would be out the door IMO.

Gaither can play and play at a high level. I dont think he is overvalued at all. He is a franchise tackle.


And the main reason Baltimore has to let him walk is they cant afford him because of some of the big contracts they have coming up.

Its a position of riches for them.

 

[Alexander]

If Gaither had a movie than he would be staying and Oher would be out the door IMO.

I hope this is a joke and not a serious evaluation.

Gaither can play and play at a high level. I dont think he is overvalued at all. He is a franchise tackle.

Then there would be absolutely no reason to A) move him to make way for Oher or B) Take the chance at losing him to a team willing to give up the draft choice. He has durability and work ethic issues from what I have read. So that is a "franchise tackle"? Hardly.

IMO, he's a shade above Bushrod.

And the main reason Baltimore has to let him walk is they cant afford him because of some of the big contracts they have coming up.

Its a position of riches for them.

I do not agree. I believe it is motivated as much by their lack of faith in him at left tackle as anything else. Oher has only cleared a year of his rookie deal, which is reasonable. They are concerned about Gaither's contract demands, he is part of the "big contracts" you state are forth-coming.

In other words, they do not want to pay who will be their right tackle, left tackle money. Right now, he is cheap. He probably won't be in the future playing a less valuable position.