The Jason Garrett Play Calling Thread *Merged*

[CF74]

Ok, was anyone watching NFLN during their coverage of our warroom during the draft?

When we reached the limit without a pick, one of the guys doing the show said, "And the Cowboys, they're just eating lunch in the war-room, what are they doing in there?"

The mustard line just had me imagine chubby Wade eating a sandwich and plops a glob of mustard on the playsheet, then just gives his confused, I dont know how that happened look.

I recall the discussion and then the camera was on Wade as he was swaying side to side munching on some grindage..

 

[Boyzmamacita]

The O-line has to be factored into all of this. The run blocking and pass blocking were both atrocious against Green Bay. I agree that you keep running regardless of success or lack thereof just to keep the defense honest, but when the run blocking is so atrocious that 300 pound lineman are routinely tackling your RBs behind the line of scrimmage, the O-line deserves some of the blame. Losing Colombo is big, but maybe Free can hold his own. We needed to find out about him sooner or later.

I honestly hope that Garrett is hearing what everyone is saying because even though we are not football geniuses, these are common sense complaints. You can't have the talent we have at RB and only rush them 11 times in a very close game. You can't do it. Even with MBIII and Felix slowed by injury, you still give it Choice. He has proven he can handle the load.

 

[skinsscalper]

This thread and the Bob Sturm thread are conspicuously silent.

Somehow the football geniuses that were explaining away Garrett's incompetence yesterday are nowhere to be found in threads that counter the ridiculous claims that it's "not Garrett's fault" or "we HAD to abandon the run".

Obviously Gryphon and Bob Sturm "weren't watching the same game they were" this weekend.

 

[khiladi]

Jason Garrett just doesn't have it... Every year it is the same thing... He fails to adjust, he abandons the run and his QB gets killed in these zone blitzes. He keeps Romo in the shotgun, doesn't employ 3-step drops, doesn't play to the bread and butter of this offense...

 

[CF74]

This thread and the Bob Sturm thread are conspicuously silent.

Somehow the football geniuses that were explaining away Garrett's incompetence yesterday are nowhere to be found in threads that counter the ridiculous claims that it's "not Garrett's fault" or "we HAD to abandon the run".

Obviously Gryphon and Bob Sturm "weren't watching the same game they were" this weekend.

No it's just tired already. Those that are honest about it know we abandoned the run, nothing left to discuss. I only posted it because it was a funny title...:squirrel:

 

[brickman]

The point of running is to keep the opposing team off balance as well... Who the hell cares if you don't run successfully every time you touch the ball. At least it will make the opposing defense second guess as well as wear the front line down.

It's funny how we get it, but wonderkid JG doesn't.

 

[scrives]

The players should have made the plays that were there to be made. Roy Williams really let us down. Rather we like it or not Garrett is on the road to becoming are next head coach and hopefully he will run this thing more like Jimmy did. Believe it or not Phillips or Capers will be our next DC.

 

[CF74]

Not if we continue to get exposed. Jerry might strangle his luv child if we get embarrassed in the post season...

 

[Idgit]

It's funny how we get it, but wonderkid JG doesn't.

Yeah. That's really weird. I wonder why that is?

 

[casmith07]

The players should have made the plays that were there to be made. Roy Williams really let us down. Rather we like it or not Garrett is on the road to becoming are next head coach and hopefully he will run this thing more like Jimmy did. Believe it or not Phillips or Capers will be our next DC.

If everyone else does what they're supposed to do, the Roy Williams plays just look like a couple of bad plays in an otherwise well-played game.

Nobody did anything well on Sunday. RW was one of the only people with respectable stats, but it doesn't matter if the whole unit plays like garbage.

 

[utrunner07]

Another point that needs to be adressed with Jason Garrett is his inability to get our Wide Recievers open. Now this may be the WR fault (and probably partially is) but it seems like we have had a chain of WR that have great games and then teams start to double cover them and then you never hear from them again. Seems like you might want to try and get them open. Thoughts? I could be way off here, just wondering why it now appears we are going to have another good reciever disappear into doulbe coverage.

 

[Rampage]

Another point that needs to be adressed with Jason Garrett is his inability to get our Wide Recievers open. Now this may be the WR fault (and probably partially is) but it seems like we have had a chain of WR that have great games and then teams start to double cover them and then you never hear from them again. Seems like you might want to try and get them open. Thoughts? I could be way off here, just wondering why it now appears we are going to have another good reciever disappear into doulbe coverage.

we saw it with T.O. last year and now Miles this year. our passing offense is so simple and Tecmo struggles to make adjustments.

 

[Rampage]

This thread and the Bob Sturm thread are conspicuously silent.

Somehow the football geniuses that were explaining away Garrett's incompetence yesterday are nowhere to be found in threads that counter the ridiculous claims that it's "not Garrett's fault" or "we HAD to abandon the run".

Obviously Gryphon and Bob Sturm "weren't watching the same game they were" this weekend.

funny how that works.

 

[khiladi]

Another point that needs to be adressed with Jason Garrett is his inability to get our Wide Recievers open. Now this may be the WR fault (and probably partially is) but it seems like we have had a chain of WR that have great games and then teams start to double cover them and then you never hear from them again. Seems like you might want to try and get them open. Thoughts? I could be way off here, just wondering why it now appears we are going to have another good reciever disappear into doulbe coverage.

Welcome to last year all over again...

 

[Idgit]

This thread and the Bob Sturm thread are conspicuously silent.

Somehow the football geniuses that were explaining away Garrett's incompetence yesterday are nowhere to be found in threads that counter the ridiculous claims that it's "not Garrett's fault" or "we HAD to abandon the run".

Obviously Gryphon and Bob Sturm "weren't watching the same game they were" this weekend.

Sturm's take re: shotgun have already been addressed, hasn't it? We're supposed to chase our tails some more on that topic? Injuries, game circumstances, and poor execution cause JG to adjust. The adjustments didn't work, and we lost. That doesn't excuse the players from executing their assignments in any way as far as I can tell.

 

[reddyuta]

lets see how our receivers can get open against a good defense the week.

 

[skinsscalper]

Sturm's take re: shotgun have already been addressed, hasn't it? We're supposed to chase our tails some more on that topic? Injuries, game circumstances, and poor execution cause JG to adjust. The adjustments didn't work, and we lost. That doesn't excuse the players from executing their assignments in any way as far as I can tell.

Not once have I tried to excuse the players for their lack of execution. In fact, I pegged their performance as "heartless" and like "a band of sissies".

So you can take your weak rebuttal somewhere else.

 

[Idgit]

Not once have I tried to excuse the players for their lack of execution. In fact, I pegged their performance as "heartless" and like "a band of sissies".

So you can take your weak rebuttal somewhere else.

Perhaps you did. I don't normally pay attention to your posts. But it's not a weak rebuttal to say what the OC was calling turned out to be bad because of execution and not play calling. The evidence that the execution was bad is irrefutable.

If you want to say that the adjustments he made to the shotgun were poor adjustments, that's another topic, but then you do have to take into account the fact that the left side of the line was out with two sprains and a balky knee and that the RT had been replaced, and we were down by at least two scores. There's a reason we changed up the game plan, and it's not a given that we did it because the OC got spooked.

 

[skinsscalper]

Perhaps you did. I don't normally pay attention to your posts. But it's not a weak rebuttal to say what the OC was calling turned out to be bad because of execution and not play calling. The evidence that the execution was bad is irrefutable.

If you want to say that the adjustments he made to the shotgun were poor adjustments, that's another topic, but then you do have to take into account the fact that the left side of the line was out with two sprains and a balky knee and that the RT had been replaced, and we were down by at least two scores. There's a reason we changed up the game plan, and it's not a given that we did it because the OC got spooked.

You won't get an argument from me that the execution was atrocious. Got your back 100% on that one.

The issue that I have (and that many others have) is that the gameplan (particularly the running game plan) was abandoned far too early. Barber carried the ball 1 FREAKIN TIME after the 1st quarter IN A 3-0 GAME!

We left our game plan behind long before we were down by two scores. The injury excuse is about as bogus as it gets. You're going to tell me that with injuries along the O-line that it was safer to pass than to run? Run blocking in it's very nature is simpler to perform due to the mammoth size of our O-line alone. Add to that the fact that an O-lineman inherently PREFERS to run the football because it allows them to be physical and dictate to the defense rather than the defense dictating to them. On top of that you're going to risk whether or not your QB even survives the game during this stretch of offensive ineptitude due to missed assignments and injuries because you're OC is too stupid to remember he has 3 running backs in a 3-0 game. You're gonna try and sell me that 3 and out, after 3 and out after, 3 and out Garrett hadn't figured out that the Packers were going to continue to pin their ears back and meet at Romo? There isn't a SINGLE RUNNING PLAY to counter that? I call bull****. Garrett panicked (AGAIN) plain and simple.

If this were a one time deal it would be different. As illustrated in Sturm's article it DOES INDEED give specific examples over the past two seasons that the OC "got spooked". The results in EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM were the same. A loss.

 

[JeffInDC]

lets see how our receivers can get open against a good defense the week.

Putting them "in motion" would be a start. If you look at Roy's 2 biggest plays this year (the 66-yard TD and the 42 yarder from Sunday - both plays were a skinny post or slant down the seam), he was in motion at the snap. Because Roy and Crayton don't have Austin's quickness off the snap, motion would definitely help them to get a jump on the defender. T.O. used to gripe about that a lot as well while he was here. And, usually when Garrett "obliged" him, the results were great.

Again, bad coaching.