The Jason Garrett Play Calling Thread *Merged*

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Bleu Star;3083654 said:
That four game or so stretch against major competition at the end of last season was not a fluke. Most RBs find it difficult to gain a rhythm when being run out for a play here and a play there. Let Choice get into a rhythm and he'll serve us nicely. I'll stake my reputation on it (what little I have here...lol).

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Everlastingxxx;3083698 said:
Part of the reason i was so optimistic in the offseason was because we were told this team would focus more on the running game and the two TE set. I thought we were going to run the damn ball. But Garrett has decided to do something else with the talent. Why Choice sits on the bench...is beyond dumb.

Every game i sit and yell...“run the freakin ball Garrett!”. The members of The Garrett Jock Sniffers Club don’t see it, i know everyone else does. Wade needs to take over, although he won’t overstep those boundaries.[/QUOTE

Wade needs to take over calling the Offense? In what coaching tenure he
has ever had makes any one think he could call plays? Hes a DC at best, even then........................
 

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Dave_in-NC;3083713 said:
Everlastingxxx;3083698 said:
Part of the reason i was so optimistic in the offseason was because we were told this team would focus more on the running game and the two TE set. I thought we were going to run the damn ball. But Garrett has decided to do something else with the talent. Why Choice sits on the bench...is beyond dumb.

Every game i sit and yell...“run the freakin ball Garrett!”. The members of The Garrett Jock Sniffers Club don’t see it, i know everyone else does. Wade needs to take over, although he won’t overstep those boundaries.

Wade needs to take over calling the Offense? In what coaching tenure he
has ever had makes any one think he could call plays? Hes a DC at best, even then........................

Truer words have never been spoken.
 

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garrett just doesn't seem to adjust to what the other team is doing.
plus he wants the long pass too much,
 

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I remember after the Giants game, I said that I felt like Garrett should have called more run plays because the running game was going so well and the passing game was so bad that day.

A lot of posters disagreed with me and pointed to the fact that they did run the ball more in the 2nd half.

I think like 60 per cent of the 2nd half plays were runs. They said you have to have balance. You can't just run all of the time even if the pass is not working.

It's like he looks for any reason to abandon the run, and I just don't understand why.
 

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Gadfly22;3082041 said:
I said it a couple of weeks ago in a win, and it's even more apparent in this GB loss: JG's playcalling is bad. Actually, to be more specific, his playbook just barely suits some of his best personnel.

He's got a massive O-line, but prefers all kinds of slow-developing misdirections and draws instead of letting his line push guys around. So Hudson Houck, who likes those big guys and knows how to use them, doesn't get the plays called that favor his style of play.

He's got more possession-type receivers and RBs who can catch than he's got speed guys, but the quick slants, short outs and other pass plays that would take advantage of those possession guys (and set up his few speed guys better) are relatively rare. Except, of course, to Witten, which lets the defense roll coverage toward him and limit his effectiveness.

And he's got very selective amnesia: he forgets the running game entirely sometimes. Which is part of a vicious cycle: running plays don't work, putting the team in second- and third-and-long, which forces more passes, which disrupts the O-line's run play rhythm, which causes more running plays that don't work and hence more passes.

To repeat myself: if JG didn't have a QB as elusive and creative as Romo, he would have been fired already.

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The point of running is to keep the opposing team off balance as well... Who the hell cares if you don't run successfully every time you touch the ball. At least it will make the opposing defense second guess as well as wear the front line down.
 

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CowboyFan74;3083605 said:
Wade spilled mustard on that part of Garrett's play sheet...

Ok, was anyone watching NFLN during their coverage of our warroom during the draft?

When we reached the limit without a pick, one of the guys doing the show said, "And the Cowboys, they're just eating lunch in the war-room, what are they doing in there?"

The mustard line just had me imagine chubby Wade eating a sandwich and plops a glob of mustard on the playsheet, then just gives his confused, I dont know how that happened look.
 

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I was thinking about this earlier. Jason Garrett. He's been a OC for 3 years now. He's pretty much been through every kind of game. He's been through weeks where the offense can't be stopped. He's been through weeks where it's stalement. How many stalemate weeks does he have to go through to realize that what he is doing is wrong?

07 Bills game. Romo spraying the ball around everywhere. Clearly is not his night. He abandons the run when the game is still in hand. His gameplan didn't work. Didn't adjust.

okay that's the first game where he has to adjust. No problem.

08 Commanders game. Felix has shown he can set the NFL on fire. Get's no touches the entire game. Garrett panicks and turns to spraying the ball around everywhere when the game is still in reach and the pass game is clearly not working. Run game non existant. His gameplan didn't work. Didn't adjust


okay. He must have clearly learned from his mistakes right? wrong.

08 Cardinals game. Just a few weeks later. Same thing as the Commanders game. Passing game isn't working. O-line is playing like ****. Garrett decides to dial up pass plays. Why? He abandons the run game and panicks. Game is clearly in reach. His gameplan didn't work. Didn't adjust.

alright it's been a few weeks where the passing game just isn't there. By now he should realize it right? He should know how to handle these situation now right? wrong.

09 Broncos game. Running game started off great. Where'd it go? Broncos are dialing up blitzes and pressuring Romo. Why not pound the ball to take the pressure off? Game is still in reach. His gameplan didn't work. Shades of Cardinals game. Didn't adjust.

So this is the 3rd or 4th game where it's been mirror images of each other. But now he should be mastering this OC position. wrong.

09 Packers game. See Bronco game.

These are just a few games for example.

I guess what I'm asking is, how many games like the Packer game are we going to go through before Garrett realizes to just adjust and take what the defense gives him? That's really the only thing that bothered me. You'd think that experiencing something 4 or 5 times, you would learn right? Not really pissed about the Packer loss in general. It's just these kind of games that have me confused.
 

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IDK. Miles dropped a TD, RW is who he is. Flo mailed it in.

There were some points to be had but werent and it wasnt really on him.

And Felix is getting overrated
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;3084110 said:
IDK. Miles dropped a TD, RW is who he is. Flo mailed it in.

There were some points to be had but werent and it wasnt really on him.

And Felix is getting overrated
the kid hasn't seen the ball since the Panthers game
 

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Rampage;3084116 said:
the kid hasn't seen the ball since the Panthers game

Just in terms of game break-ability. Injury or not he doesnt have great speed and has weak kick returns. Ray Rice is better and was had in the 2nd.

Im starting to think Choice should carry a little more and Felix should get the screens.

And the MB3 to closer argument is dumb, but I would redistribute his touches in that way. Same amount of touches though
 

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khiladi;3083796 said:
The point of running is to keep the opposing team off balance as well... Who the hell cares if you don't run successfully every time you touch the ball. At least it will make the opposing defense second guess as well as wear the front line down.

GREAT POINT
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;3084126 said:
Just in terms of game break-ability. Injury or not he doesnt have great speed and has weak kick returns. Ray Rice is better and was had in the 2nd.

Im starting to think Choice should carry a little more and Felix should get the screens.

And the MB3 to closer argument is dumb, but I would redistribute his touches in that way. Same amount of touches though
well sometimes better players get had in the later rounds. Jay Ratliff was passed over by every team 6 times.

now screens to Felix we can agree on. I'm not sure if he's even gotten 1 this year. I know he's been hurt but if they wanna limit his touches atleast try to get the most out of his ability.
 

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Bleu Star;3083668 said:
I think we went away from it way earlier than that.

That's okay, you can think that. You'd be wrong, but you can think that.
 

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DaBoys4Life;3083584 said:
Haven't you heard we didn't run the ball because the run was shot down the O line was terrible and we weren't in a rushing situation because Romo got sacked.

that would be a clear indicator to start running if Romo is back there enough to get sacked as much as he did
 

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ChldsPlay;3084166 said:
That's okay, you can think that. You'd be wrong, but you can think that.

It's really one opinion versus another...... If I had taped it I would go watch it again to verify. That would have been difficult to watch again though.
 
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