The Jets' courtship of Cowboys WR Miles Austin is "dead,"

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Boyzmamacita;2728863 said:
Martellus Bennett looks like a keeper, but it's still early.


Mamacita,

I'm loving that Choice GIF. :) Woohoo! Damn, I can't wait until next season.
 

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Hostile;2728857 said:
I could be happy with either situation.

Yup. It was a win-win.

What will suck is if we lose him for nothing next year.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2729310 said:
I'm ok with keeping him but I certainly would have been pretty darn happy with the extra 2nd rounder for him.

As for his production I'd say if he gets 30-40 catches this year I'd be pretty pleased with him. Right now I'm not completely sold that he'll get anywhere near 30-40 catches cause he hasn't shown me that #1 he can even stay healthy for most of a season yet and #2 that even when he is healthy that he's able to consistently be a player for this team.

If you go back and look at some of the games last year he did play in, like Arizona, how does the guy only catch 1 ball? Arizona was committing to Witten, Owens, and Crayton most of the time and yet Austin caught only 1 pass all day. That's my biggest fear about him is that even with him being the 3rd or 4th option, at best, he doesn't consistently give Romo a target.

I'm hoping he does this year but to this point I haven't seen enough of him to believe that he will for sure. Especially now with them also no doubt throwing more to Bennett, Jones, Barber, and Choice.
During the Cardinals game, Romo threw deep to Austin twice. Both were incompletions. The only other time Romo targeted Austin was for the touchdown reception. A closer look at Romo's pass attempts (both completed and incomplete) during that game may clear up a few things:

Barber - 12
Owens - 9
Crayton - 7
Witten - 7
Austin - 3
 

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Again, NFL GMs do not keep jobs trading away r2 picks for guys like Austin. Austin is the same as 5 WRs you an draft on day 2. He is very athletic with questionable WR skills.

Austin has to go out and perform now in a contract year and if he does Dallas likely offers him a big payday by mid-season. But he can't average 1 or 2 catches per week and expect a contract extension.
 

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jterrell;2729370 said:
Again, NFL GMs do not keep jobs trading away r2 picks for guys like Austin. Austin is the same as 5 WRs you an draft on day 2. He is very athletic with questionable WR skills.

Austin has to go out and perform now in a contract year and if he does Dallas likely offers him a big payday by mid-season. But he can't average 1 or 2 catches per week and expect a contract extension.

They don't keep their jobs trading 1st round picks for Brett Favre only to have him play one year either.
 

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jterrell;2729366 said:
Yup. It was a win-win.

What will suck is if we lose him for nothing next year.
Not really. Let's worry about what he does this year first before saying that.
 

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jterrell;2729370 said:
Again, NFL GMs do not keep jobs trading away r2 picks for guys like Austin. Austin is the same as 5 WRs you an draft on day 2. He is very athletic with questionable WR skills.

Austin has to go out and perform now in a contract year and if he does Dallas likely offers him a big payday by mid-season. But he can't average 1 or 2 catches per week and expect a contract extension.

Miles Austin's issue is NOT his questionable WR skills. It is more the ability to stay healthy.
 

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dmq;2729169 said:
It could be that that the Jets called the Cowboys and asked them if they were going to match an offer on Miles. Remember Parcells getting ticked at Sean Payton for not calling first to see if the Cowboys would match an offer on Killer???? It is supposed to be a gentlemen's agreement to to call the other team in the NFL.

that's a good point
 

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Like I said previously, he would be back here, not get an offer and the reality that no other team would give us a 2nd round pick for Miles Austin would finally become apparent.

We had people talking about getting the 17th overall pick for him, let alone the 53rd. Said people would cry over that post and they did. I'll get some crying over this post too.

Was happy either way it went and it's nice to see the guy at least garnered some interest but back to reality on Miles Austin. He's potential and just that. Teams give up 2nd rounders to get players like Kris Jenkins and Shaun Rogers, proven commodities.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2729310 said:
I'm ok with keeping him but I certainly would have been pretty darn happy with the extra 2nd rounder for him.

As for his production I'd say if he gets 30-40 catches this year I'd be pretty pleased with him. Right now I'm not completely sold that he'll get anywhere near 30-40 catches cause he hasn't shown me that #1 he can even stay healthy for most of a season yet and #2 that even when he is healthy that he's able to consistently be a player for this team.

If you go back and look at some of the games last year he did play in, like Arizona, how does the guy only catch 1 ball? Arizona was committing to Witten, Owens, and Crayton most of the time and yet Austin caught only 1 pass all day. That's my biggest fear about him is that even with him being the 3rd or 4th option, at best, he doesn't consistently give Romo a target.

I'm hoping he does this year but to this point I haven't seen enough of him to believe that he will for sure. Especially now with them also no doubt throwing more to Bennett, Jones, Barber, and Choice.

it had more to do with TO's presence than anything else, Romo was so keyed on getting him and Witten the ball that it was look Witten, look TO, pat, pat, pass to either 2, a sack, or a dumpoff, and then the 3rd or 4th option

watch this year Romo start spreading the ball around minus TO
 

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DallasEast;2729368 said:
During the Cardinals game, Romo threw deep to Austin twice. Both were incompletions. The only other time Romo targeted Austin was for the touchdown reception. A closer look at Romo's pass attempts (both completed and incomplete) during that game may clear up a few things:

Barber - 12
Owens - 9
Crayton - 7
Witten - 7
Austin - 3

Yeah it clears up to me that despite being covered by, at best, the 3rd or 4th best cover guy of the Arizona defense that he was only open to be targeted 3 times. That's a little scary, to me, and now people think he's suddenly going to line up as the #2 guy, with the defense actually paying more attention to him than if he was the 4th guy out there, and he's suddenly going to consistently beat coverages and be a big time option and they've based this thought on 18 career receptions.

That is why I never had an issue with losing him for a 2nd round pick. I like the kid, like his potential, but a players potential is what puts HC's in the unemployment line. I really hope he exceeds all my expectations, and those of others, this year and is lights out. I just wouldn't have been upset if we got a 2nd rounder of that 'potential'.
 

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JerryAdvocate;2729410 said:
it had more to do with TO's presence than anything else, Romo was so keyed on getting him and Witten the ball that it was look Witten, look TO, pat, pat, pass to either 2, a sack, or a dumpoff, and then the 3rd or 4th option

watch this year Romo start spreading the ball around minus TO
:hammer:
 

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Maybe Jets Not So Hot On Austin
Posted by mickshot at 4/14/2009 10:10 AM CDT on truebluefanclub.com

The first indication the New York Jets might not be willing to pay what it would take to coax Cowboys wide receiver Miles Austin into signing a multi-year offer sheet or part with a second-round draft choice to secure the restricted free agent have surfaced out of New York.

Rich Cimini of the New York Daily News on Monday night blogs that a “person with knowledge of the situation” has told him the Jets will not send Austin an offer sheet. The restricted free agent who attended nearby Monmouth University in New Jersey did visit with the Jets over the Easter weekend but was back at The Ranch on Monday working out with his teammates. Austin continues to sit tight.

Because Austin was not drafted, the Cowboys put a second-round tender on him just in case some team was willing to offer him a multi-year contract, even though he has only caught 18 passes in his three-year NFL career. They felt the $1.54 million it would cost them on a one-year contract would be worth the deterrent to a team trying to capitalize on the three years spent developing the former Division I-AA receiver.

Restricted free agents have until Friday to sign offer sheets, otherwise their rights revert back to the teams issuing them right-of-first-refusal tenders. Of the Cowboys’ four restricted free agents, only Austin and Sam Hurd have yet to sign their tenders. Austin's only known visit has been with the Jets while there has been little interest in Hurd since he only played three games last year, finishing the season on injured reserve following ankle surgery.

Mickey Spagnola
 

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hooray! but really, it was gonna be a win win situation either way.
 

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Duane;2729378 said:
They don't keep their jobs trading 1st round picks for Brett Favre only to have him play one year either.

Which is exactly why the Jets GM is hardly what I'd call a guru.

The one caveat with Favre is at least he sold some jerseys and made the owner some cash.

But, yes, a dumb move all in all as would trading a r2 for Austin be. I am sure he has been advised as such (by friends such as BP) and why they didn't get his name on paper while he was there for 2 days.

I always figured if a team wanted Austin they'd call Dallas and offer a 3rd/4th for him. They could get him cheaper and sign him to a less expensive or tricky deal.
 

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SMCowboy;2729404 said:
Miles Austin's issue is NOT his questionable WR skills. It is more the ability to stay healthy.

Sorry but you are wrong. I have watched Austin play for 3 years and he has questionable WR skills. His hands are at best average(far below both Hurd and Crayton), his route tree consists of 3 or 4 routes total thus far(a full half his catch attempts have come on flies or posts), and his ability to read defenses is completely unproven.

Entering 2008 Sam Hurd was clearly ahead of Austin in WR skills and of course production. Austin had a good pre-season in 2008 and looked to be taking a step forward but he never started a game and never showed he could be an every down WR by any means.

Health is a big issue for him but he played in plenty of games to demonstrate he could run a variety of routes and catch everything thrown his way but he failed to do so. He was a big-play threat with limited overall WR skills.

Argue that if you like but you'd simply be incorrect.

This is not a debatable topic or some 6-1, half a dozen to the other argument this is very simple, 3 years worth of evidence fact.
 

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JerryAdvocate;2729410 said:
it had more to do with TO's presence than anything else, Romo was so keyed on getting him and Witten the ball that it was look Witten, look TO, pat, pat, pass to either 2, a sack, or a dumpoff, and then the 3rd or 4th option

watch this year Romo start spreading the ball around minus TO

I call BS. Total BS.

This is a very easy one to disprove.

2008:

Witten 81 catches
T.O. 69 catches
Barber 52 catches
Crayton 39 catches
Choice 21 catches
Bennett 20 catches
Roy E 19 catches
Austin 13 catches

2007:

Austin finished 9th in receptions on the Cowboys.

So he finished 8th in 2008, 9th in 2007.
Hard to blame that on Witten and T.O. getting all the passes.

Austin finished behind such stars as Fasano whom we traded off, Cricket, Hurd and Julius Jones in 2007.

This simple truth is Austin just hasn't produced yet. When he does produce it will be his time doing so.

We can argue all day about what he will do, but what he did do is recorded and it is a total of not much at all. Others easily surpassed him that we deem totally irrelevant.
 

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jterrell;2729366 said:
Yup. It was a win-win.

What will suck is if we lose him for nothing next year.

Next year the team will have extra transitional tags as the result of not having a cap.
 

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http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/041509dnspocowshort.d6f2e349.html

Reports: Jets won't make offer to Dallas Cowboys' Austin

11:25 PM CDT on Tuesday, April 14, 2009

With the restricted free agency signing period ending Friday, the New York Jets will not make an offer to wide receiver Miles Austin, according to published reports.

Austin visited the Jets last week and left without a contract. The Cowboys probably would have matched an offer to Austin instead of taking New York's second-round draft pick (No. 52 overall).

Austin has been at Valley Ranch this week working out with teammates. He has until Friday to sign the Cowboys' $1.545 million tender or the team can reduce the offer.

Todd Archer



IMO...the Cowboy organization has to give Austin a chance to prove himself. Austin has a great opportunity to become the #2 WR behind RW11. Without TO in the picture, Austin will also have more situations where he will be Romo's first or second option!!!!!!
 
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